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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 631
| creativename | Posted 11/13/2008 9:56:15 PM | message detail |
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Mario's first win over Crono was legit, Mario's win over Cloud was
unfair, yet legal and awesome, Mario's second win over Crono was all
kinds of wrong. Mario didn't win a single 24-hour time period. Mario>Cloud wasn't awesome (though I wasn't actually following the contest yet), but otherwise I agree. Mario/Crono I sucked for Crono, but was a normal win for Mario. Mario/Crono II however was utter, indefensible BS in so many different ways - which is why it's known as the shadiest result ever in these contests. And Crono's doing terrific right now as the rat collapses. Sweet. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:56:46 PM | message detail |
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I think I'm starting to BELIEVE! --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/13/2008 9:56:52 PM | message detail |
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What people ignore about Mario/Crono 2 is that the poll started 20 minutes early. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:56:56 PM | message detail |
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what a bad update --- CB7 Score: 312/416 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:57:02 PM | message detail |
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From: red sox 777 | #252 You didn't believe EARLIER fake crono fan --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 11/13/2008 9:57:29 PM | message detail |
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Come on. My guarantees are never wrong guys! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| ZFS | Posted 11/13/2008 9:57:46 PM | message detail |
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| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:57:51 PM | message detail |
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If I believe earlier, Crono would be collapsing by now. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 9:58:07 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 11/14/2008 12:53:46 AM | #238 Did he prove his rallying was effective with raw stats? Do you see how the exact time I get up, character start big comebacks? (WCC and Hogger). Hey guys I predict Samus has a good chance of winning this match n_n --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:58:41 PM | message detail |
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stop believing --- CB7 Score: 312/416 http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
| __hiei__ | Posted 11/13/2008 9:58:49 PM | message detail |
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What people ignore about Mario/Crono 2 is that the poll started 20 minutes early. doesn't change anything. its still completely unfair that every other match only lasted 24 hours.at worst you could say Mario won just by random luck. what Ceej should have done,was end the match 20 minutes early,but wait the 20 minutes to start the next |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:58:56 PM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #259 Hogger was just dying and not really doing much then right when I woke up, he gained 600 votes and took over the lead from Laharl in 90 minutes. Check the stats for the match if you don't believe me. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| MichaelWClark | Posted 11/13/2008 9:59:04 PM | message detail |
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red sox 777 (#240) You know there is a hint of truth to all heavy rumors right? If like, the whole site believes you are a fanboy, and all 4 of the most controversial matches involved Nintendo characters shadily beating Sonic and Square characters, you have to believe there is something there. --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 9:59:27 PM | message detail |
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As someone with Mario > Crono in 2003, Crono beat him fair and square that year. After 24 hours, Crono was winning with ease. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/13/2008 9:59:36 PM | message detail |
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Man I was looking at a nine vote gain for Crono and I was like "man what a bad update what are they cheering" then I realized I was looking at SAMUS' lead I guess my point here is "lol Samus" --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Gaddswell | Posted 11/13/2008 9:59:44 PM | message detail |
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MyWorldIsCrono (#262) From: UltimaterializerX | #259 Hogger was just dying and not really doing much then right when I woke up, he gained 600 votes and took over the lead from Laharl in 90 minutes. Check the stats for the match if you don't believe me. You should've rallied for Laharl instead! =( --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:00:18 PM | message detail |
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Mario was up at 24:00, but he wasn't up at 23:45- and the match began
at 23:40 the previous day. Even if you knock off the first 15 minutes,
and allow the 23:45 to 24:00, allowing by far the largest gain in any
update by either character all day (obvious stuffing), Crono still
wins. Mario didn't win any 24-hour segments. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:00:21 PM | message detail |
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Hey guys Link started doing well during after school vote, CLEARLY there was vote-stuffing I mean god it's so obvious --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| Gaddswell | Posted 11/13/2008 10:01:15 PM | message detail |
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And here's the Vincent stall, one update late! --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:01:54 PM | message detail |
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From: UltimaterializerX | #268 WCC came back and took the lead within like 2 hours after losing updates for a couple hours when I started to rally. Theres enough evidence that my rallying is effective to try to look smart by refusing to believe it. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/13/2008 10:02:35 PM | message detail |
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Did he prove his rallying was effective with raw stats? Do you see
how the exact time I get up, character start big comebacks? (WCC and
Hogger). Your main site has threatened to ban you if you come again, so now your WCC-example is useless...and Hogger was never fair to compare since your then-source for rallying was WoW-favorable and large as opposed to probably anywhere else you're going. Show new effective stats. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:03:01 PM | message detail |
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Ugh ulti is messing me up with his arguing and I forgot to bump my
topic. Damn you Ulti. This was your strategy wasn't it? >.< --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| ZFS | Posted 11/13/2008 10:03:17 PM | message detail |
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Mario was up at 24:00, but he wasn't up at 23:45- and the match began at 23:40 the previous day. Ha. Is that what people complain about with the 24 hour thing? Pretty dumb. --- "You don't have to worry about me." |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:03:42 PM | message detail |
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Oh and Albion didn't rally for Crono in that one update there, because
he didn't feel like it. Ditto for last year's match, Crono's 39 losses
against Mario and the JFK assassination. He killed JFK and is part of
the Cubans that set it all up, you know. You can't disprove it, so of course it's all true. It would be too obvious. Did I mention the word "gullible" does not appear in any dictionary? --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:04:01 PM | message detail |
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From: HaRRicH | #271 I'm not trying to say my rallying is anywhere near as effective for Crono as those. In fact, it isn't. Not by a long shot.. I'm not gonna be pulling in an extra 30 votes for Crono an update like I could for Cube. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:04:30 PM | message detail |
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From: MyWorldIsCrono | Posted: 11/14/2008 1:03:01 AM | #271 So predictable. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:05:42 PM | message detail |
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1 hour mark! 2007: 149, 79, 74, 51, 37, 39, 65, 13, 49, 59, 1, 47 2008: 52, 52, 27, 67, 34, 37, 72, 8, 41, 62, 74, 7 Total gains after the 15-minute mark: 2007: 361 2008: 402 Total lead: 2007: 663 2008: 533 Crono's percentage of Crono/Vincent votes: 2007: 56.57% 2008: 55.11% --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:06:18 PM | message detail |
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WoW aside, rallying hardly ever does anything. Anyone can get more
people to a poll, but they'll never unquestionably listen to whoever
asks them and will instead vote for their own choice. It's common sense. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| creativename | Posted 11/13/2008 10:06:33 PM | message detail |
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Harrich, I don't know exactly what to make of this rallying stuff, but
just so you know, I think he was saying this guy's "study" found 30
votes per update, not per hour, for the Cube. That would be 360 votes
per hour. Also I think it was fairly clear that Hogger won by rallying, by only a few individuals, maybe even just one. If any other results were affected, I don't know. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| Mario vs Crono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:06:41 PM | message detail |
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And Mario was definitely up at 12:00. I'm sure somebody has those
updates saved from back then. The whole 'comeback' is pretty
overexaggerated, though it's clear it wasn't entirely 'legit.' 24:00 Mario | 66266 | 50.03% | Crono | 66174 | 49.97% | lead of 92 | ( up 243 ) its still completely unfair that every other match only lasted 24 hours.at worst you could say Mario won just by random luck. Almost none of the matches lasted exactly 24 hours back then. --- 2005: Mario | 55739 | 53.85% | Crono | 47762 | 46.15% | lead of 7977 | 2004: Crono | 51430 | 53.24% | Mario | 45165 | 46.76% | lead of 6265 | |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:06:51 PM | message detail |
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Pikachu is really dying now. Why didn't he die last round after the power hour? >_> --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:06:56 PM | message detail |
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Ha. Is that what people complain about with the 24 hour thing? Pretty dumb. Pretty much every match in 2003 started early....23:45-50 was the typical start time. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| MichaelWClark | Posted 11/13/2008 10:07:14 PM | message detail |
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ZFS (#273) It's not dumb. There is one fact about that match which can't be denied. There is not one single way that Mario won a 24 hour period, which is how long all matches are. Is it at all a shock that the Nintendo fanboy let the match go longer? --- Gunner is, what is the word... passionate. but i think that MichaelWClark dude is far crazier than anything Gunner has posted. Posted by Mark Milton |
| creativename | Posted 11/13/2008 10:08:18 PM | message detail |
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Your main site has threatened to ban you if you come again, so now
your WCC-example is useless...and Hogger was never fair to compare
since your then-source for rallying was WoW-favorable and large as
opposed to probably anywhere else you're going. I posted before I saw this new post from you. Yeah, if you're talking about future matches rather than past matches, his stuff means almost nothing. --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:08:25 PM | message detail |
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So how big of a lead does Crono need --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:08:58 PM | message detail |
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From: creativename | #284 No, I'm defending the old matches. I admit I can't do much now (especially for PC centric characters, not that theres many left anywhos) --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:09:34 PM | message detail |
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From: creativename | Posted: 11/14/2008 1:08:18 AM | #282 ...durr? Everyone wants their 15 minutes. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| __hiei__ | Posted 11/13/2008 10:09:43 PM | message detail |
| around 2000 i'd start feeling safe |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:10:25 PM | message detail |
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Reposting last year's trends here: 1:00 | 56.57% 2:00 | 54.83% 3:00 | 52.08% 4:00 | 51.40% 5:00 | 43.78% 6:00 | 41.43% 7:00 | 43.06% 8:00 | 44.04% 9:00 | 47.66% 10:00 | 47.54% 11:00 | 49.90% 12:00 | 50.15% 13:00 | 49.07% 14:00 | 49.06% 15:00 | 49.34% 16:00 | 45.50% 17:00 | 46.14% 18:00 | 45.59% 19:00 | 45.65% 20:00 | 47.75% 21:00 | 47.02% 22:00 | 48.52% 23:00 | 45.49% 24:00 | 46.77% As for rallying, it's pretty clear that Albion got Hogger and Cube victories they otherwise would not have won. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:10:35 PM | message detail |
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CUT! --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 11/13/2008 10:10:43 PM | message detail |
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ohh, a Crono CUT --- http://www.court-records.net/manga/4koma/(eng)4koma2.png |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:10:44 PM | message detail |
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On a total side note, I'm near the end of my MGS replay. Snake is
*such* an idiot in this game. Answering every statement by rewording it
to a question is so annoying. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:10:58 PM | message detail |
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hey cut on samus --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| paraboxx | Posted 11/13/2008 10:11:26 PM | message detail |
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WoW aside, rallying hardly ever does anything. Anyone can get more
people to a poll, but they'll never unquestionably listen to whoever
asks them and will instead vote for their own choice. It's common sense. I was (semi-)waiting for this argument, because I believed it myself until the Cube match. It's entirely true that once someone gets to the poll, they'll vote for whoever they want. But if you make a topic on a popular board saying "Vote for Weighted Companion Cube at Gamefaqs!", you are capturing the attention of WCC fans. Not Mega Man fans, not Snake fans, not Zero fans...Cube fans. And while they can still choose to vote for MM/Snake/Zero when they get to the poll, they're much more likely to stick with the Cube. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:11:40 PM | message detail |
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Phew I started panicking thinking Vincent had cut Crono. Great to see Crono cutting Samus! --- Crono's quest to beat Link: This it it! Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:12:27 PM | message detail |
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And while they can still choose to vote for MM/Snake/Zero when they
get to the poll, they're much more likely to stick with the Cube. I don't believe this. Rallying needs to be MASSIVE (L-Block) for it to matter much. But maybe I'm wrong, who knows. --- TurnTurnTurn your brain in. ~*ST*~ Now Playing: Mother 3, Castlevania: OoE, MGS |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/13/2008 10:12:33 PM | message detail |
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I gotta say, unless Crono can counter his traditional collapse, things are looking good for Vincent. Crono isn't too
far behind his pure "vote lead" pace last year (140 votes behind), but
he and Vincent are eating up a lot more percentage this time around. He
really should be up more than this to inspire any realistic confidence.
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| creativename | Posted 11/13/2008 10:12:53 PM | message detail |
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Are...are people still trying to defend Mario's win in 2003? Daaaamn. It's almost like Mario fans are more bitter about him winning but getting his rep ruined than Crono fans are about him losing o_O --- Save_Us.RAT BREAK THE BLOCK DOWN |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:12:54 PM | message detail |
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Sigh, you know a guys day vote is bad when you're worrying a 5% lead might not be safe =\ --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/13/2008 10:13:08 PM | message detail |
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Harrich, I don't know exactly what to make of this rallying stuff,
but just so you know, I think he was saying this guy's "study" found 30
votes per update, not per hour, for the Cube. That would be 360 votes
per hour. He specifically used an example of 30 votes x 24 hours = 720 votes earlier and didn't shoot down the 2.5 votes per update average I mentioned earlier, so...until he shows me otherwise, I'm rolling with that. I'm not trying to say my rallying is anywhere near as effective for Crono as those. In fact, it isn't. Not by a long shot.. I'm not gonna be pulling in an extra 30 votes for Crono an update like I could for Cube. I see you said update instead of hour here, but I think that was a typo. Care to clarify? --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
