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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/13/2008 12:56:28 PM | message detail
I can try though!

...I have no one to hand my Buster Altscript off to once I get shot in the head though.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/13/2008 12:56:54 PM | message detail
Its really tough to rally against Mario...

Wasn't it you who tried to rally Warcraft over Super Mario Bros. in the series contest? You know, when all the Warcraft fanbase decided to vote for Mario because he's ****ing Mario!?
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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/13/2008 12:56:57 PM | message detail
I think the lead is swelling far too quickly at this point, even with the occasional Zack stall.
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 12:56:59 PM | message detail
even with that pretty nice gain, it's like Mario only gained 5 per update the last two... which is what his pace has pretty much been. Need to hold Mario here though.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 12:57:14 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #302
Its really tough to rally against Mario...

Wasn't it you who tried to rally Warcraft over Super Mario Bros. in the series contest? You know, when all the Warcraft fanbase decided to vote for Mario because he's ****ing Mario!?



No, that was Funk. I wasn't here for the series contest
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/13/2008 12:57:36 PM | message detail
Oh i know he would. But i was telling Kleenex i'm not worried about him hunting us down, because Vincent will screw Crono out of the finals before Zack will.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 11/13/2008 12:58:07 PM | message detail
vincent's screwed

i mean, didn't you see my goddamn picture
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 12:58:46 PM | message detail
if samus wasn't in tomorrow's match i'd totally vote vincent out of spite

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XIII_rocks | Posted 11/13/2008 12:59:26 PM | message detail
even with that pretty nice gain, it's like Mario only gained 5 per update the last two... which is what his pace has pretty much been. Need to hold Mario here though.

I guess...it just seems to be slowly but surely rising. I don't think Zack will have enough here when it comes to the crunch.

Yup, an 11 vote gain.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/13/2008 12:59:38 PM | message detail
Lol pic factor.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:00:06 PM | message detail
Zack needs exactly 4 votes an update to tie.
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Kullstrom | Posted 11/13/2008 1:00:12 PM | message detail
Except... you're completely wrong. On all accounts. MM was much, much stronger back then. He performed like absolute **** against Link. The only two possible explanations for that is A) it was an anomaly, or B) he shares a fanbase. Then Zero underperforms big time against Mario the next year. You could consider it another random anomaly if you wish. Finally, in a match that Zero was supposed to win convincingly (I think most people had him beating Luigi with 55% or so), he went on to lose by the margin. Another anomaly featuring MM/Nintendo! Or, you could take the easy answer and say that the fanbases are similar enough that substantial SFF is seen in their matches. Also explains the MM/Yoshi match too.

Or MM was overrated to begin with. Zero putting 46% on Luigi would be him overperforming these days and the fact that it was unexpected then is a testament to him being overrated rather than a giant instant drop. Same with MM v Link, he'd be lucky to even get 32% on an undebated source like Cloud these days. It's incredible how people will come up with excuse after excuse for every MM failing. You also failed to explain that if MM get SFF then does the likes of Kefka too? How about Sub-Zero to Sonic?
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 1:02:09 PM | message detail
soul stop arguing with a troll
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/13/2008 1:03:58 PM | message detail
Much as i hate to say it i have to agree, Mario is rising a bit too fast for Zack to have a shot with the snv. An hour into the asv and he's already increased his lead by almost a hundred. There's still 6 hours left until the snv starts, and much as i hate to say it i don't think Zack can make up 1000 votes in 2 hours.
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 1:04:36 PM | message detail
Zack, he come to save the day.

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The Mana Sword | Posted 11/13/2008 1:05:08 PM | message detail
zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:05:28 PM | message detail
Or MM was overrated to begin with. Zero putting 46% on Luigi would be him overperforming these days and the fact that it was unexpected then is a testament to him being overrated rather than a giant instant drop. Same with MM v Link, he'd be lucky to even get 32% on an undebated source like Cloud these days. It's incredible how people will come up with excuse after excuse for every MM failing. You also failed to explain that if MM get SFF then does the likes of Kefka too? How about Sub-Zero to Sonic?

Those results may be expected today, but they weren't in 2004. And if 2004 was a weaker Mega Man he wouldn't have defeated Sonic or came close to Crono in 2005. Stop using today's values and comparing them to values of the past. Characters are not linear.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/13/2008 1:05:46 PM | message detail
And of course when i doubt him Zack goes and makes a 12 vote cut. Make up your mind Zack!
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 1:06:01 PM | message detail
Their might be 6 hours until the SNV hits, but the ASV doesn't last for 6 hours. There's a lull from 8-10. Mario should still be considered the favorite, but Zack is limiting Mario to an average of 5 votes per update right now. That's 60 votes an hour. Not insurmountable by any means.

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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:09:18 PM | message detail
Also if Nintendo didn't affect Mega Man then X would be winning today.
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/13/2008 1:09:59 PM | message detail
Their might be 6 hours until the SNV hits, but the ASV doesn't last for 6 hours. There's a lull from 8-10

I thought that might be the case, but i'm usually at work at that time so i've never analyzed voting trends then. We should have a term for those 2 hours then. How about the After Dinner Vote, or ADV?
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:11:44 PM | message detail
Crono in the finals.

Believe.
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 1:14:13 PM | message detail
The only thing Zack winning here does is confirm Samus in the finals.

oh glorious day
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 1:14:38 PM | message detail
uh-oh... bad update. can't handle many more of those
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/13/2008 1:15:43 PM | message detail
soul stop arguing with a troll

You know who he is? I thought he was just some newbie know it all. If he's been an idiot beforehand, then my bad.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 1:22:15 PM | message detail
this is over for zack

oh well, good run for him. Hopefully we'll see him in a better situation next year to analyze his strength
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:28:05 PM | message detail
Also, my Link > Mario upset for the semis is now virtually impossible, unless, by some miracle...

1) Vincent/Crono gets slaughtered in the semis

Or

2) Pikachu advances

Oh boy.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:29:54 PM | message detail
Frog/LS has returned to being the closest W2W match.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 1:30:08 PM | message detail
Zack really dies during the ASV. This isn't even Mario doing well.

But if Zack gets into KH3... aww man, he could be a force to be reckoned with.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/13/2008 1:49:42 PM | message detail
By the time Zack starts cutting Mario should have a large enough lead.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/13/2008 2:23:20 PM | message detail
Wow, only in a 4-way could you see a midcarder leading over Mario for half the match.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/13/2008 2:43:25 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure Zack didn't lead for even a quarter of the match, but whatever.
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tee316 | Posted 11/13/2008 2:45:44 PM | message detail
Zack only lead Mario for a few updates out of the whole match. Hell Zack spent more time in last place then he did in 2nd.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/13/2008 2:47:10 PM | message detail
Uh, that's not true either. Zack was in 2nd for about 2 hours. He was in last place for about 1.
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tee316 | Posted 11/13/2008 2:49:25 PM | message detail
Sorry about that then. I thought he was in last place longer then that.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/13/2008 2:50:16 PM | message detail
Zack led for a couple of hours at the most. Link is really dominating right now, and X is dying.

Again, if Samus with Ganon can beat Vincent by himself, Samus with Pikachu shouldn't lose to Vincent with Crono.

Remember Pokemon/Metroid?

(Okay, I know this is a bad example because Zelda destroyed Metroid the next round, but still!)

Seriously though, Pokemon (or at least Pikachu) has shown itself to be pretty SFF resistant. If Pikachu LFFs Samus instead of getting SFF'd, then Vincent's got a shot. I'd say Pikachu gives him a better shot than Ganondorf does, really.
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trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2008 2:51:44 PM | message detail
it's actually probably pretty close. MMX took the lead back for a while.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/13/2008 2:51:48 PM | message detail
But there's a Crono in the way!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/13/2008 2:52:46 PM | message detail
People are still arguing Vincent/Crono LFF? Pshhhhhhh.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 2:54:23 PM | message detail
Crono/Vincent LFF should be minor....about the same magnitude as Crono/Link LFF, I say. Pokemon have been strange enough that I'm hesitant to say Crono or Vincent have no chance of taking first from Samus.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/13/2008 2:57:20 PM | message detail
Crono vs Vincent will be pretty similar to last year, except that this time Crono will get a much bigger lead, and hold it for the whole match.

And Link VS Mario VS Samus VS Crono will be a big massive SNES SFF match.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/13/2008 3:01:18 PM | message detail
Bunch of elitists up in here.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/13/2008 3:01:55 PM | message detail
go corno
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/13/2008 3:03:40 PM | message detail
I'd be hesitant to say Crono will lead for more than a few hours this time!
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 3:07:48 PM | message detail
Seriously though, Pokemon (or at least Pikachu) has shown itself to be pretty SFF resistant. If Pikachu LFFs Samus instead of getting SFF'd, then Vincent's got a shot. I'd say Pikachu gives him a better shot than Ganondorf does, really.

No. Samus went 60/40 on Ganon in 2005, and it was generally agreed there was no SFF. She got 67% on Ganon last round. Even if Pikachu doesn't get SFF'd and retains his proportional strength to Samus, Ganon being far stronger than him would make up for the discrepancy. AND now Vincent has to deal with Crono rather than Gordon. I'm not convinced of any significant Crono/Vincent, but it sure as hell would beat out Vincent/Gordon overlap. There's literally nothing that supports Vincent beating Samus tomorrow.


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trannyscience | Posted 11/13/2008 3:08:53 PM | message detail
I have learned to take nothing for granted when Pikachu is in a match. I finally found the character that's weirder than Sephiroth.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/13/2008 3:09:55 PM | message detail
Ganon being far stronger than him would make up for the discrepancy.

Except you never know what Pikachu is going to do in any given match. The guy got 46% on Crono last round. That'd be more than enough to mess up Samus big time.

Not that I think he WILL, but the potential for the rat to do something weird will be there.
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/13/2008 3:11:44 PM | message detail
I still buy my explanation for Pikachu's performance last year, which takes all the weird out of it. Then this year attribute it to L. His wacky performances have been situational, and I see nothing to show that he'll do that tomorrow. I'd venture to say the weirdest thing we'd see is Crono/Vincent/Pikachu hurting each other for all sharing the RPG fanbase. I'd bet my entire life savings that Samus finishes first tomorrow.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/13/2008 3:12:49 PM | message detail
I'll take that bet! I have nothing to lose and everything to gain!
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/13/2008 3:12:51 PM | message detail
don't forget to send in ZSS pics everyone
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