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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 630
| EternalxCourage | Posted 11/13/2008 8:38:57 AM | message detail |
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Crono let Pikachu get extremely close to him. You think he's going to beat Vincent? Lol. --- Do you know who the **** I am? ***** I'm the man. The one and only Curt. |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/13/2008 8:39:44 AM | message detail |
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No one actually thinks Zack can survive the ASV, do they? I won't completely write off the possibility, but I'll make one of those wimpy "less than 1% chance" claims. Mario's morning vote is supposed to be his most lethal time, but Link did a pretty good job diluting it. If Zack can utilize the next three hours to slash this lead and build one of his own, and if Link just kills Mario's ASV, then I can see it being close as we enter the second night vote. Unfortunately for Zack, even if he were to do the impossible and accomplish all that, he'll still be up against Mario in the waning hours and minutes of a close match. Like the Nintendo fans will let Mario lose that. --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 8:41:33 AM | message detail |
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No idea really what's going to happen tomorrow, but Crono looks better
than he did going into his match with Vincent last year. That match
against Zero in round 2 last year was just pathetic, and Vincent would
have been a huge favorite after it if it weren't for the fact that no
Noble Niner had ever lost to a non-Noble in either format at that point. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| transience | Posted 11/13/2008 8:41:46 AM | message detail |
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I'll go with an arrogant 0%, and if I could go lower I would. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| hailEC | Posted 11/13/2008 8:41:53 AM | message detail |
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Everyone's giving Zack way too much credit in this match too. We saw
Auron beat down Sonic by 5%, and then lose to him by 11% the very next
round just because of Sephiroth in the poll. Mario has to deal with
Link AND MMX, or if you want to look at it from X's perspective, Mario
and Link. That should be far more of a hinderance to their abilities than Seph was to Auron, and Sonic made a 16% swing on him. If you don't think Zack would get absolutely crushed by every character in this poll, you're wrong. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| transience | Posted 11/13/2008 8:43:19 AM | message detail |
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indeed. people talking about Zack beating Luigi with 55% are cracking me up. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| Kullstrom | Posted 11/13/2008 8:44:09 AM | message detail |
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I'm not a Zack fan or anything but I just hate when massive upsets come this close to fruition and dont happen. In reality I don't think he'll even cut with the DSV, just stall and lose by about 2000 in the end. Pretty bad contest for Mario so far, he's already trailed to 2 non-nobles at some point in a poll, wouldn't discount him for last next round. --- Look right through me, Look right through me. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 8:46:22 AM | message detail |
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Zack would get crushed 1v1 by every character in this poll,
true.....but so would Luigi. I think I'd take him to win that one in a
fairly close match....and would also seriously consider taking Aeris
over Luigi. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| transience | Posted 11/13/2008 8:47:14 AM | message detail |
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Zack's awesome. he just doesn't belong in this category any more than Mewtwo did a few days ago. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| Kullstrom | Posted 11/13/2008 8:51:01 AM | message detail |
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I don't buy the idea of MM / Nintendo SFF here. It just seems like a
nice excuse thats used to justify every time a MM character looks
awful. Lets not forget Zero pulled 37% on Mario during the plumbers
strongest year and MM in following years went on to justify his 32% to
Link, there might be minor overlap but I don't think its significant.
1v1 I'd take Zack over X, I don't overestimate Zack I just think
they're both somewhere in between upper midcarders and near nobles. The
Ryu tier for want of a better name. --- Look right through me, Look right through me. |
| EternalxCourage | Posted 11/13/2008 8:51:09 AM | message detail |
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Zack would beat both Luigi and Mega Man. --- Do you know who the **** I am? ***** I'm the man. The one and only Curt. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:07:56 AM | message detail |
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Looking at the updater, I'm really shocked Mario didn't really go
insane with the morning. Zack still has a shot here, cuz Marios best
time is gone. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/13/2008 9:10:55 AM | message detail |
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Less than 300 down 12 hours in is much better than I had anticipated
for Zack. I really thought Mario would still manage to run away with
this, and quickly. --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| tee316 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:16:17 AM | message detail |
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Zack just cut Mario. --- "Mewtwo is a major joke."- Vlado |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:16:20 AM | message detail |
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After matches like this, that we see Mario struggling to fend off a minor character from FF7, I love this format even more --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Kullstrom | Posted 11/13/2008 9:18:38 AM | message detail |
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(Link v Zack last round) Link 69.99% Zack 31.01% (Link v Zack this round assuming a 1% gain for Link and a 0.40% decrease for Zack) Link 63.84% Zack 36.16% It's not far to compare Zack to a freeloader like Mewtwo when he's doing this. I don't think that SFF is that significant as Link/Mario matches have shown in the past, sure it's there but not to the extent that Squall in particular was getting crushed with for Mewtwo to advance. To be worth 31% legit on Link however you look at it is impressive. To put in perspective Vincent got 35% on Link in R2 last year with Zelda in the poll, as undeserved as it might be I'm finding it hard to believe that Zack isn't a character somewhat near the noble 9 in terms of strength unless Link has dropped a lot in strength this year which itself isn't impossible given that he's only played a potentially weak division and other Nintendo characters. --- Look right through me, Look right through me. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:20:23 AM | message detail |
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Zacks cut 3 straight times. Time for his comeback. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/13/2008 9:23:34 AM | message detail |
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Well, Zack's done everything he could given his bracket placement to prove he's legit. So far, he has: --> Beaten an old-school FF-lead. --> Beaten a new-school FF-lead. --> Gotten 45% in a poll. --> Smashed Wario in a highly-argued match... --> ...which broke the streak for Nintendo winning every opening match. --> Cleanly took down Duke and Altair, each who had impressed this year. --> Put up 30+% on Link for the third time in a row (even though today's not so reliable to judge by). --> Beaten MMX and has kept up with Mario for over half of today's match (though, again, unreliable). --> Held up regardless of his picture. He's not a NN-breaker or anything, but how much more can you really ask of somebody that many of us originally thought Wario or Shadow could beat? Also think about how many excuses people have made against him (myself included). He's done well both because of SFF and despite SFF, has proven his picture hardly matters, shown he can get large percentage against fodder and solid percentage with Link in the poll, and broke a long-standing tradition. Newcomer of the year, easily. I never would have guessed he would have done this before the contest. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Kullstrom | Posted 11/13/2008 9:27:01 AM | message detail |
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(more stats) In the last round Zack bled 0.40% in the 3 morning hours between 9 and 12. This time he bled 0.20% In the last round Mario gained 0.30% in those hours, this time he bled 0.10%. The theory of Link eating his support seems to be paying off, if Mario is like that during the day vote he'll be going nowhere fast. Still though stalls aside I'm finding it hard to see when exactly Zack will get any kind of lead, I guess its now or never. He needs to lead by at least 200 before the ASV to have any sort of slim chance. At best he could hang there during that time but he's never ever going to actually cut Mario during it. --- Look right through me, Look right through me. |
| Yesmar | Posted 11/13/2008 9:28:20 AM | message detail |
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Newcomer of the year, easily. I never would have guessed he would have done this before the contest. I agree. I mean, it's *Zack.* Considering how little Crisis Core probably counts for, this is all based on 5 minutes of screentime, if that. And appearance too obviously, but still, clones like Wario and Shadow have legit reasons to be as popular as they are. --- "All you base are belong to us."--CATS |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:28:25 AM | message detail |
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I think its a given now that Vincent/Crono is making the finals with Link doing this to Mario, though! --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/13/2008 9:31:13 AM | message detail |
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So, this must be how all you feel when one of your upsets comes bitterly close, but just doesn't make it? *tosses away bracket* Well, at least it wasn't a FOOLISH upset like people kept telling me, right? --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Yesmar | Posted 11/13/2008 9:33:19 AM | message detail |
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The only way Vincent/Crono (I'm still leaning towards Vincent) don't make the finals, is if A) Samus does nothing to Pikachu SFF wise. AND EITHER B1) Crono and Vincent did SFF/LFF each other last year but Link/Zero did it to the same extent so it was hidden B2) The Square fanbase has shifted enough in a year that they will SFF each other this year. Even if this happened, Pikachu would need a miracle to advance, although it would be pretty awesome if he did. --- "All you base are belong to us."--CATS |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:34:54 AM | message detail |
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IF Pikachu couldn't beat Crono last roudn with all the "Kill L Block votes", he won't beat Crono this round --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/13/2008 9:35:10 AM | message detail |
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I can see Crono not making the finals if he beats Vincent next round...
but ONLY Crono, and only if the Mario/Crono rivalry overshadows
everything in that match. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:35:31 AM | message detail |
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Save_Mario.RAT --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:37:16 AM | message detail |
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From: Karma Hunter | #125 I doubt the majority of the voters at this point even remember the classic matches. Its just people who follow the contests every year who will know about it --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:38:56 AM | message detail |
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Zacks done here So, lets get into total Crono vs. Vincent rematch talk! --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/13/2008 9:39:47 AM | message detail |
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Especially since Samus >> Ganon >= Luigi > Pikachu from
direct matches since last year. I don't see how Pikachu should hold up
better than Ganon did in either match against Samus this year. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:44:18 AM | message detail |
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The people who remember Mario vs. Crono would probably split about evenly between them, I think. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:47:16 AM | message detail |
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If Pikachu can advance tomorrow, he can beat out Mario and Samus to make the finals also. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 9:47:44 AM | message detail |
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From: red sox 777 | #131 How? If Pikachu is there, I'd say Mario is the favorite --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 9:49:27 AM | message detail |
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If Pikachu is somehow able to advance tomorrow, that would mean his
fanbase is a lot more independent/static that we've been thinking, or
he's getting joke votes, or he's getting an L-Block type bandwagon. Of
course I wouldn't take Pikachu for anything but last in
Link/Mario/Samus/Pikachu right now, but I wouldn't take Pikachu for
anything but last tomorrow either. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/13/2008 9:51:18 AM | message detail |
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Oh, and Vincent/Crono are both much stronger and less likely to have a
bad overlap than Vivi/Tidus; Pikachu beat Vivi by ~4% in R2 last year,
so when the two Square stars become much stronger and Leon is replaced
by Samus, you can't expect Pikachu to advance again. It certainly
doesn't hurt that Crono already beat Pikachu last round, either. Now, Pikachu could screw Samus out of first...but if Ganon couldn't cost Samus against Vincent by himself, then I doubt Pikachu will cost Samus against Vincent with Crono also in the poll. Samus might even shine particularly bright since all of her opponents are RPG-stars; there's a great representative from old-Square, new-Square, and Nintendo. Hard to say how much that division of the RPG-fans will help Samus, but it's a nice advantage in theory. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/13/2008 9:56:08 AM | message detail |
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The people who remember Mario vs. Crono would probably split about evenly between them, I think. As would I - but the point is that many of those people who would remember on the Mario side are voters that would otherwise vote for Link, but could rally to Mario instead. Of course, that wouldn't be nearly enough in the face of Link - Mario would have to hold out hope that Link affects Crono as well (and Crono winning easily over Vincent tomorrow would strangely validate that, though I can't see that as good news for Mario). That, coupled with Crono just not standing out like a sore thumb as much as Vincent/Zack, makes me believe he's the only one in the duo that could possibly drop it there, even if the chances are slim. (...though I suppose this conclusion is wasted on you! <_<) Well thanks for sucking but not sucking enough Mario Cloud > Link is dead all hail Snake > Link --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/13/2008 9:59:03 AM | message detail |
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If Mario can beat MMX (and probably Samus) with Link in the poll, Mario
can beat Pikachu in a poll. Luigi beat Pikachu handily last year and
CF/Ike weren't so far behind him this year. Throw in that you're
pitting Pikachu against Nintendo's top three icons at once...Pikachu
would be doing SO well to get third in such a match-up, much less
actually advance in second place. I get what you're saying about the static fanbase, but SFF isn't going to be THAT favorable to him and his "static" fanbase hasn't exactly gone against any of Nintendo's top mascots yet. Tomorrow will probably make him look bad...but even if he does advance with Samus, Pikachu still doesn't know what it's like to face Mario or especially Link yet. I'd still like to see that match of Nintendo's most successful mascots though...could be fun in general. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:00:08 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, I certainly agree Crono has a better chance of losing to Mario
than Vincent, although both have very low chances of losing: I've
talked up Crono/SNES and especially Crono/Link overlap way too long to
deny that. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:05:35 AM | message detail |
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Mario by the Hour vs. Zack: 1:00 | 52.41% 2:00 | 50.59% 3:00 | 50.09% 4:00 | 48.42% 5:00 | 44.82% 6:00 | 42.75% 7:00 | 51.48% 8:00 | 51.29% 9:00 | 53.15% 10:00 | 51.76% 11:00 | 51.55% 12:00 | 49.63% 13:00 | 51.05% --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/13/2008 10:12:33 AM | message detail |
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I think it's funny Mario only lost four of those hours yet is only beating Zack by ~300 votes. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/13/2008 10:14:12 AM | message detail |
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Question: If you replaced Mega Man X here with Samus, would Zack be beating Mario? --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/13/2008 10:17:50 AM | message detail |
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...I'll say yes for right this instant, but Mario would still win the match in a close one. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/13/2008 10:20:57 AM | message detail |
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Yes, and I might even take Zack to win. --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/13/2008 10:23:25 AM | message detail |
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Let's mess with RPG-fans with a new four-way; if this went down next
year, who do you take? Also, is it too easy to take Zack for first here? Magus Mewtwo Yuna Zack Fair --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:23:39 AM | message detail |
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That should be far more of a hinderance to their abilities than Seph
was to Auron, and Sonic made a 16% swing on him. If you don't think
Zack would get absolutely crushed by every character in this poll,
you're wrong. Zack is nowhere near this tier. I don't know if I'd take Zack over Knuckles, let alone consider him a NN breaker. The only reason he's impressed against Link is because there was literally no one else in any of the polls (minus Duke who's a joke) for non Nintendo fans to vote for. If Zack was in any other division, he would have been eliminated a couple of rounds ago. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:24:27 AM | message detail |
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Yuna > Mewtwo Yuna would SFF Zack, Magus will suffer a bit from it, and Mewtwo is the only Nintendo representative here. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 11/13/2008 10:25:55 AM | message detail |
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Mewtwo > Zack --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/13/2008 10:25:58 AM | message detail |
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I'm conflicted on that one. My first instinct was yes, because the
overlap is greater. On the other hand, Link/Mario would probably SFF
Samus harder than X. I'm going to hazard a guess of yes on the grounds
that I think Mario/Samus would be closer than it was in 2005 now. --- Crono's quest to beat Link: 3 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| earth angel | Posted 11/13/2008 10:41:19 AM | message detail |
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With this result today, my bracket is effectively done. I had MMX not
only getting 2nd here, but getting 2nd next round as well. But all
well, for only my second year really taking time to fill out a bracket,
I'll take getting to #15 on the leaderboard (and getting to #5 in guru.) --- http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&lid=100018&owner=bgbball33&mode=vown Game and DVD lists ---^ Brawl FC: 4768-7140-5656 |
| hailEC | Posted 11/13/2008 10:46:28 AM | message detail |
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HaRR, you're completely correct that Zack is newcomer of the year, but
that's not particularly saying much. He definitely has some solid
strength, but I wouldn't put him anywhere above solid mid-carder. I'll
love seeing everyone horribly overrate him for next contest as their
brackets crash and burn. I think something like Knuckles/Zack would have a lot of people taking Zack, and I'd love to jump on Knux there. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 11/13/2008 10:47:21 AM | message detail |
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Only in 1-1 matches. If it's a fourway with two other scrubs, I'd take Zack > Knuckles. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
