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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 629
jkmill550 | Posted 11/12/2008 6:28:49 AM | message detail |
Also, I think Tifa beats Auron. Not sure about Squall though. While her role in FFVII was nothing special, she has definitely been given more exposure post-FFVII and in Advent Children she easily has the second largest protagonist role--bigger than even Vincent. |
H__RR____H | Posted 11/12/2008 6:29:41 AM | message detail |
Some of you are wondering why Leon's so close to Master Chief here.
I decided to adjust him based on Dante from last round. There may be no
reason for doing so, but Leon did drop 5% from his 2nd round
performance on Dante. The raw stats use this 3rd round Leon, so you can
see the stats based off of that. I understood Leon yesterday performed more like Leon in R3 last year, which also had Dante and a solid Nintendo character. I'm inclined to say yesterday's performance is the best one to go by because of that...but he's had, what, three million-sellers on Nintendo systems? Maybe it's actually the Nintendo characters throwing him off a little...in which case, his R2 match this year would be the best to go by like you did. Just...man, what a mess. Also, with Big Boss...I know he messes with the stats, but he nearly had 50% of the poll with Kirby, Lucas, and a joke-character; he beat Kirby by 11+%. His R2 match had an obvious detractor in Raiden, too, not to mention MC being a bad-ass in the match as well making Kirby stand out a lot. I know Big Boss got to stand out a lot in R1 too, but he still nearly got 50% on the poll and beat Kirby much worse than what Kirby did to him with an even better advantage the next round (thanks Raiden). The man deserves to be at the top of the division. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
Kullstrom | Posted 11/12/2008 6:31:47 AM | message detail |
I'd probably take Tifa over Auron, and think about her over Vincent as
well. I've always felt she's never got a fair run at this contest with
being through the wacky female bracket and SFF fests this year. The
only solid read we have into her is that she roughly the same amount on
Sonic as Vincent did on Crono in 2005. Both have probably boosted since
then with AC and KHII but I'd still maintain that Tifa is as big a
noble nine breaker as anyone. --- Look right through me, Look right through me. |
H__RR____H | Posted 11/12/2008 6:56:31 AM | message detail |
I've mentioned this before, but I love how Auron/Sora/Squall/Tifa
should interact in such a match. Sora's the most removed and leads
three games yet arguably the weakest, each of the other three have
varying roles in the KH series and star in various FF games, we've got
two leads along with a fan-favorite and Square's most successful woman,
all that... ...that said, now that they're eliminated this year, the only person I know I like right now is Tifa. She was able to successfully stand up to Sephiroth twice this year so fans of FF7 won't easily leave her behind, she's notably stronger than Aeris so she wouldn't be blown out by Squall/Sora like Aeris last year, and she's going to stand out as both a hot woman and not being a leading bad-ass. With her role in KH2 and FF7's Cloud/Seph being big reasons for KH's original success, I don't expect Sora to mess with her too much. Squall and Auron are going to fight more among FF-bad-ass fans as well; it doesn't hurt that FFX came a generation later and Squall came from what was once a disappointing sequel to FF7 to many fans (not that Tifa hurts Squall; we saw two days ago Cloud didn't bother Squall much/any more than Sora), so she shouldn't be badly affected. It doesn't hurt FF7 is still the foundation of GameFAQs until further notice. I don't know if I like her to win it, but she's who I trust the most to advance in one of the two positions...so, for now, I guess first place works... ...then for second place, my instincts tell me Sora (or maybe Auron) and my logic says Squall (or maybe Auron). What a match-up...give me Auron since I feel him a bit on both grounds. Tifa > Auron...if nothing else, it's not too bad to go with Square's two biggest games represented. Literally anything can happen here though. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/12/2008 7:32:33 AM | message detail |
So much for the legendary Sonic morning vote. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 247/368 Today's Match: Sephiroth > Sonic |
Kullstrom | Posted 11/12/2008 7:56:32 AM | message detail |
Sonic has had bizarre trends this year. I mean beating Sephiroth with
the night vote and then losing the morning vote to him? What the hell
is that all about? Then in Round 1 where he mimiced Cloud's trends of
increasing all day after an awful board vote and today did so well with
the board vote he was actually beating Sephiroth. It's all over the
place. --- Look right through me, Look right through me. |
hellfire104 | Posted 11/12/2008 8:01:53 AM | message detail |
Couldn't help but notice that 27 of the top 40 guru's have Link > Mario. Granted, thats not even 70%, so this match is a toss up. I don't imagine that in terms of SFF against mario; Link > Zelda + Mudkip OR Link > Luigi. I also think X get's some SFF here for THE FIRST TIME YET, against mario. Anybody want to discuss? --- Point Total/Rank: 285/366, 78%, T7th My Bracket Says: Sephy > Sonic Prediction: Sephy > Sonic |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/12/2008 8:09:50 AM | message detail |
I feel really funny about that match and even though I have Link >
Mario I would have to give X as being the favourite. The only thing I
know is that Zack will get last. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 247/368 Today's Match: Sephiroth > Sonic |
earth angel | Posted 11/12/2008 8:36:07 AM | message detail |
The thing that scares me about X is how MM underperformed in his last
round. Granted it was against a joke character, which probably factored
into it quite a bit, but it still has me worried. My bracket is basically riding on X and Crono from here on out. --- http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&lid=100018&owner=bgbball33&mode=vown Game and DVD lists ---^ Brawl FC: 4768-7140-5656 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/12/2008 9:00:20 AM | message detail |
I understand what you're saying about Tifa, but she still lost to Kratos, and it doesn't look like Auron will. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Temporarily Sidetracked |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/12/2008 9:02:59 AM | message detail |
Sephiroth is beating Auron more badly now than he did in 2004. I
certainly didn't expect this, especially after Kingdom Hearts II and
watching Squall do better against Cloud a few days ago. --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
hailEC | Posted 11/12/2008 9:03:45 AM | message detail |
seph > link lets do this --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
RPGuy96 | Posted 11/12/2008 9:06:45 AM | message detail |
Yeah, I'd sooner compare against Kratos than I would against Sephiroth.
Remember that Sephiroth more than tripled Vincent last year. --- Mustache...and green... |
XIII_rocks | Posted 11/12/2008 9:09:14 AM | message detail |
I like this. Even the people who cheated for Auron last round could not
survive the wonders of SFF. XD at their monumental failure - Sonic all
the way. --- JUSTICE FOR FD I use to worry about a McCain presidency but after playing some Fallout 3 I feel I could survive well enough. - ISS |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/12/2008 9:12:51 AM | message detail |
From: XIII_rocks | #114 People still think Auron cheated? --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
The Mana Sword | Posted 11/12/2008 9:13:24 AM | message detail |
No, "people" do not think that. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
dbkit | Posted 11/12/2008 9:16:41 AM | message detail |
I voted for Sonic but thats all I can say about that. For anybody
besides Cloud, beating Sephiroth is a daunting-impossible task. Arg I don't get why people like that Sephiroth anyway. FF7 is eons old and in my opinion much better games have come along since then. --- http://www.petitiononline.com/jsrf1234/petition.html - Sign here for a new Jet Set Radio game. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/12/2008 9:19:17 AM | message detail |
Squall barely did better against Cloud, and I think the level of
competition has a lot to do with how badly Auron is doing. After all,
Kratos is doing much worse this time himself. Plus, Squall might have
been SFFing Sora a bit, too. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Temporarily Sidetracked |
The Mana Sword | Posted 11/12/2008 9:20:38 AM | message detail |
I dunno if you can really say Squall was SFFing Sora with how close Sora came to winning that. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
dbkit | Posted 11/12/2008 9:28:47 AM | message detail |
Someone explain to me what SFF means O.o --- http://www.petitiononline.com/jsrf1234/petition.html - Sign here for a new Jet Set Radio game. |
TRE Public Account | Posted 11/12/2008 9:33:19 AM | message detail |
SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if
two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options
will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected
to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003
values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda
fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a
grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't
make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's
"Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. --- To right the countless wrongs of our day, we shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise. What a wonderful world such would be |
LEMONed_iScream | Posted 11/12/2008 9:36:06 AM | message detail |
Yeah, that's like on the first page, dbkit (as well as the post after yours!). --- Oh, what a sweet monster people It's a lemon, lemon, lemoned I scream, yeah! |
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/12/2008 10:22:54 AM | message detail |
drillbitkit, you should make use of the wiki when you have questions like that. http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/SFF and http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/LFF --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
HaRRicH | Posted 11/12/2008 10:32:26 AM | message detail |
Speaking of LFF and the first post, I would think
it may be a good idea to add LFF to the list of definitions. If
necessary, I would be cool seeing it replace X-Stats or rSFF...LFF has
become more common in four-ways anyway, and it doesn't look like that's
changing anytime soon. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
PegasusLover123 | Posted 11/12/2008 10:38:42 AM | message detail |
Maybe im looking into it too soon, but looking at the next match it
seems like 1 surefirst 1st placer and the real battle being for 2nd. Link i'm sure will get 1st. Mario and X however can prove to be a little battle although it'll likely be in Mario's favor. This is likely where Zack is gonna fall down and hard. People said he's looking good mainly since the only competition he had in his division was Link, so he could consistently cruise in 2nd. I suspect It will be Link>Mario for the upcoming match but X might try to do something about that. What are your predictions and picks? --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
transience | Posted 11/12/2008 10:46:24 AM | message detail |
Auron's doing better than Tifa was. you can argue
that he shares less overlap and therefore it's debatable, but there's
no doubt that Auron's doing better comparatively. he's at a lower
percentage because there's more competition. replace Jill Valentine
with Sonic and that's what you get. tomorrow's match, I'm still up in the air. I've got a lot of thoughts on how Link affects both X and Mario. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
Megaman703 | Posted 11/12/2008 10:48:19 AM | message detail |
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Megaman703 | Posted 11/12/2008 10:48:44 AM | message detail |
uh, regarding LFF (as stupid as I think that term is) shouldn't it be "Leech", not "Leach"? --- "Your daddy was quite the warrior. Do you measure up to him?" "I don't know. I didn't bring my ruler." |
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/12/2008 10:56:31 AM | message detail |
Tifa's exposure THROUGHOUT KH2 > Auron's presence in the first or second level of the game. No. I calculated it. Tifa is seen for about 15 seconds in the entire game (she punches a wall, then has a small cutscene in the thousand heartless fight). Auron joins your party. Like I argued last year, Tifa gained absolutely nothing from KH2. Her fans seeing her in another game won't do it. People who didn't know her beforehand won't vote for "random character walking around with big boobs". --- Good Times, Great Memories |
Ngamer64 | Posted 11/12/2008 10:56:48 AM | message detail |
Either works. leach - to purge a soluble matter out of something by the action of a percolating fluid heavy rainfall can leach out minerals important for plant growth from the soil leech - an aquatic blood-sucking annelid of class Hirudinea, especially Hirudo medicinalis bert leeched hundreds of files from the BBS, but never uploaded anything in return --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/12/2008 10:57:45 AM | message detail |
I don't see X as a very realistic threat. If Mario can beat him
comfortably with Luigi in the poll, then it leads me to think Mario can
beat him in almost any situation. There are other factors which spell
trouble for X, such as everything Link and the Zelda series have done
against Mega Man opponents, and Samus's performances against Mega Man
last year. I think Zack is a bigger threat. He's scored an impressive
30% on Link twice, but that was against weak competition. If he can
hold his own here and let Link go to town with SFF, I see him coming
out ahead. However, he doesn't have nearly the "stand out" factor that
Mewtwo did (or even Sonic does now). Yes, he's Final Fantasy in a sea
of Nintendo, but he's also a cool sword wielder in a poll with the cool sword wielder. Basically I am excited for a match which is surprising given this contest and all. --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/12/2008 10:58:05 AM | message detail |
No. I calculated it. Tifa is seen for about 15 seconds in the entire
game (she punches a wall, then has a small cutscene in the thousand
heartless fight). Auron joins your party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CDC9NlDN00 --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/hansen.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
Solid_Mike86 | Posted 11/12/2008 11:00:57 AM | message detail |
Are Samus and Crono the favorites in their match? Is Samus projected to finish first with Crono behind her? --- Tennessee Titans 8-0. Charlotte Bobcats 2-3. AKA Super Luigi. |
hailEC | Posted 11/12/2008 11:02:09 AM | message detail |
Anyone can finish 2nd tomorrow imo. Let's just hope for something exciting. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
Tai | Posted 11/12/2008 11:03:34 AM | message detail |
If Crono beats Samus I'll punch a ****ing wall. --- SSB Brawl Code: 0903-4850-3529 Boston Celtics: 7-1 Next: Wednesday vs Atlanta Hawks (7:30 PM) |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/12/2008 11:04:29 AM | message detail |
If Crono beats Samus, I'll paint a rat yellow and torture the hell out of it. --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
hailEC | Posted 11/12/2008 11:05:07 AM | message detail |
If Crono beats Samus, I'll go ass to mouth. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
__hiei__ | Posted 11/12/2008 11:08:21 AM | message detail |
If Crono beats Samus this will be the best contest ever |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/12/2008 11:12:44 AM | message detail |
If the results are Pikachu > Crono it will be the best match ever. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 247/368 Today's Match: Sephiroth > Sonic |
transience | Posted 11/12/2008 11:16:52 AM | message detail |
you never go ass to mouth --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
hailEC | Posted 11/12/2008 11:18:52 AM | message detail |
exactly --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/12/2008 11:24:49 AM | message detail |
>_> So anybody expecting Kratos to do anything with the ASV? Personally I only think he could shave off a few hundred votes. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 247/368 Today's Match: Sephiroth > Sonic |
The Mana Sword | Posted 11/12/2008 11:26:54 AM | message detail |
Yeah, Kratos'll probably close the gap a bit, but I doubt it's anything
significant. If he pulls the lead below 1000 I'd be surprised. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/12/2008 11:40:03 AM | message detail |
If Kratos's day vote is like Sub-Zero's it'll end around 17% to 16%. Obviously in Auron's favor --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 11/12/2008 12:12:38 PM | message detail |
Auron being affected by Sephiroth less than Tifa isn't *that*
surprising. Sephy and Tifa share the same game, but Auron and Sephy
both fall under the badass category - and we've seen just how much they
can hurt each other. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
charmander6000 | Posted 11/12/2008 12:22:22 PM | message detail |
Last round Tifa got 32.57% on Sephiroth and now Auron is getting 31.54%. Seems like Tifa had more of an overlap than Auron against Sephiroth (obviously) since Kratos went from 36.86% to 28.82% between rounds. The only thing happening here is Auron is getting hit by a ton of SFF while Sephiroth is doing a good job by not being dragged down with Auron. You shouldn't use SFF matches to compare the only conclusion you're going to get is who Sephiroth SFF better. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 247/368 Today's Match: Sephiroth > Sonic |
BDawg | Posted 11/12/2008 1:31:40 PM | message detail |
Well after this I guess Sonic is safe enough next round. It wasn't all
that great but I really don't see Dante or Kirby pulling in a whole lot
more percentage than Auron/Kratos. Sonic will probably be dragged down
a bit by Kirby but the only threat would be Dante just totally
resisting Sephiroth. --- Should I start running now? |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/12/2008 3:06:08 PM | message detail |
Yeah, he'll go on to the semifinals, and if Cloud does to Sephiroth
what he did last year, Sonic might end up looking good compared to
Seph, too. Of course, he didn't deserve a bit of this, but it'll just
be sweeter when he flubs next year. Here's to hoping he draws Auron or
Squall in Round 2. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
voltch | Posted 11/12/2008 3:17:47 PM | message detail |
it's too bad sonic did so poorly,unleashed better help him. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
Blade Of Evils Bane | Posted 11/12/2008 3:20:05 PM | message detail |
Am I the only one who thinks Sonic could still easily beat Auron one on one and that Sandbag hurt Sonic last round? --- Can't think of a good sig. |