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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 628

MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 12:14:01 PM | message detail
I'm glad that BT didn't accept my account bet on Chief beating Dante here like a month ago.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/11/2008 12:14:28 PM | message detail
People are seriously entertaining the idea of Dante sneaking into second next round with the original silver-haired badass breathing down his neck? Sonic could have Knuckles tagging along in that match and I'd probably still bet on the hedgehog.

Same here.
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BDawg | Posted 11/11/2008 12:18:58 PM | message detail
Albiowned was no match for THE DANTE SPARDA?! factor.
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ZFS | Posted 11/11/2008 12:19:09 PM | message detail
and suddenly, a Dante/Chief match is unquestionable? Nah.

Yep. I agree with Leon here - Dante/Chief was never a question 1-on-1. Last year had been argued since pre-contest to be format; I don't think anyone believed we would have seen thta same Chief in a normal contest. Now it's looking more like the result of Halo 3 hype than anything, which also makes some sense.

But yeah, Dante easily takes Chief in a normal setting, probably Kirby too without much trouble by the looks of today.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 12:19:49 PM | message detail

From: BDawg | #253
Albiowned was no match for THE DANTE SPARDA?! factor.



My rallying backfired and mods started to delete all the topics and said any more topics made by the people making topics (along with Biolizard and someone else) would result in perma ban.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2008 12:21:55 PM | message detail
Wow this sure is a great ASV from Chief

I can't believe I had this loser over Sonic AUGH HALOWNED
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/11/2008 12:29:04 PM | message detail
augh and Dante wins that update outright augh augh augh
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 12:39:36 PM | message detail
Dante is really impressing me here. Even with Leon here he is doing this.
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BDawg | Posted 11/11/2008 12:40:16 PM | message detail
Hey, Chief shaved negative 12 votes! Sooo, is it time for Frog/Chief redux after CTDS?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/11/2008 12:40:56 PM | message detail
Remove Dante, and Leon would probably be kicking Chief's ass.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 12:42:21 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #260
Remove Dante, and Leon would probably be kicking Chief's ass.



At this point maybe, but the ASV would kill Leon
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 12:57:53 PM | message detail
I gave Mewtwo his round 2 value on Cloud here because it's pretty obvious he was benefiting from triple Square SFF, far more so than any Nintendo LFF he may have had with Midna last round. Due to having no fixed point of reference by which to adjust Squall's half of the division, this is what you get. Looks like Squall could've still advanced had it been Yoshi/Mewtwo instead, but that's just random speculation at this point. These stats are pretty much worthless.

I think the stats can look more legit than this from Mewtwo's side; what happens if you based Mewtwo off of his R1-match against Pac-Man and how Pac-Man did against Cloud in R2? I think people can overlook what little bit Ness did or didn't do to Mewtwo in R1 for that if it looks decent enough.

It's hard to do much about Sora/Squall though.....
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 1:01:21 PM | message detail
And...time for my kind of fun again:


Leon Kennedy
Master Chief
Mewtwo
Ryu Hayabusa
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__hiei__ | Posted 11/11/2008 1:03:02 PM | message detail
Leon wins

someone comes in second. probably Master Chief
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 1:05:16 PM | message detail
Mewtwo > Master Chief

yay 3 way action SFF ftl
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 1:06:24 PM | message detail
Does nobody else find the prospect of MC and Hayabusa sharing a match particularly interesting?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 1:06:47 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #266
Does nobody else find the prospect of MC and Hayabusa sharing a match particularly interesting?



No, cuz MC would just blow him out due to Xbox SFF.
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hailEC | Posted 11/11/2008 1:07:25 PM | message detail
I'd take Ryu > MC just so I wouldn't get burned by MC yet again.

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 1:09:59 PM | message detail
No, cuz MC would just blow him out due to Xbox SFF.

Don't forget last year's GotY: CoD4 smoked Halo 3...and you can't fully fault the PS3 either since its ownership was so low pre-MGS4. Halo/MC isn't invincible.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 1:10:47 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #269
No, cuz MC would just blow him out due to Xbox SFF.

Don't forget last year's GotY: CoD4 smoked Halo 3...and you can't fully fault the PS3 either since its ownership was so low pre-MGS4. Halo/MC isn't invincible.



Among Xbox fans, I'd take Chief over a lower tier Xbox character any day.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:10:51 PM | message detail
Mewtwo > Leon

>_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2008 1:15:39 PM | message detail
Hmm...not much more I can add. Everything for today seems to have been covered.

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 1:20:39 PM | message detail
Lower-tier? Ryu beat Zero who beat Vivi the next round, and each are solid contenders. In fact, Vivi has blown out DK before who barely lost to MC. We also see MC has missed a huge step since last year.

It isn't impossible for Hayabusa to keep up with MC.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/11/2008 1:25:31 PM | message detail
But of legit characters, I can't think of any that went from being within 2% of Solid Snake to this.

Hey there, Magus!

Yeah, I know he was just overrated all along, but still...No one's had a harder fall than he has.

And if you remove Dante, I'd say Leon's got a great shot at Kirby. Forget just Master Chief. I still can't get over how well he did in round 1, and that 10% win over Pikachu last year seems to look better every round.

I think the stats can look more legit than this from Mewtwo's side; what happens if you based Mewtwo off of his R1-match against Pac-Man and how Pac-Man did against Cloud in R2?

Ah, good idea. Let's see...

Mewtwo goes up about 1.5% on his value from Cloud in round 2 to around 25.5% (it was about 24% before). Not a significant change, but it makes him (and Midna) look better.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 1:25:59 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #273
Lower-tier? Ryu beat Zero who beat Vivi the next round, and each are solid contenders. In fact, Vivi has blown out DK before who barely lost to MC. We also see MC has missed a huge step since last year.

It isn't impossible for Hayabusa to keep up with MC.



I would be shocked if a significant amount of Xbox fans went for a character like Ryu over the face of Xbox.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/11/2008 1:27:04 PM | message detail
I would be shocked if a significant amount of Xbox fans went for a character like Ryu over the face of Xbox.

Where would the non-XBox fans go?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2008 1:28:26 PM | message detail
Fun fact: We have 129 characters who have never won a match. Plenty for a mock bracket...hmm...*gets working*

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/11/2008 1:30:04 PM | message detail
For all the poor choices that the GameFAQs voterbase consistently makes, the fact that they CONSTANTLY **** all over Master Chief gives me a small glimmer of hope that they will one day round a corner. This victory is not just for Kirby and Dante, it's a victory for people who don't like stupid shooter avatars everywhere. Hallelujah. =D
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BDawg | Posted 11/11/2008 1:30:25 PM | message detail
I don't know what to think of Hayabusa. He looks great when at least two of the opponents are fodder, but then folds in the face of Snake. I'd like to see him in a four way with say, Samus, just to see if it's Snake in particular or if he would fold in the face of any strength.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/11/2008 1:35:58 PM | message detail
Fun fact: We have 129 characters who have never won a match. Plenty for a mock bracket...hmm...*gets working*

This sounds like a bad idea!
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 1:36:20 PM | message detail
The reasoning for the four-way wasn't so much about Hayabusa trying to beat MC, by the way, but whether or not MC/Hayabusa would LFF each other and allow Mewtw/Leon to duke it out.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:36:28 PM | message detail
Guybrush Threepwood for #1 seed!
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:37:14 PM | message detail
Potato, AIM
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2008 1:37:22 PM | message detail
This sounds like a bad idea!

You have no idea!

(actually a 32-way bracket works...okay, 64 is hilariously fodderific though)

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2008 1:37:58 PM | message detail
Actually I'll make both. One fodderific bracket coming up!

(on AIM now)

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HaRRicH | Posted 11/11/2008 1:38:12 PM | message detail
Protoman!

Abe!

Earthworm Jim!

Conker!

CATS!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/11/2008 1:38:36 PM | message detail
Actually, Ken Masters is probably the strongest character never to win a match, unless I'm overlooking someone...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2008 1:38:52 PM | message detail
They're all in the bracket actually


what am I creating

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/11/2008 1:42:28 PM | message detail
KP you are responsible for you own sanity loss on this one, pal
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/11/2008 1:42:57 PM | message detail
Oh god. I just can't do this. I don't even know where to start with a bracket like this. I'll stick to a 32-way one.

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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:42:59 PM | message detail
From: LeonhartFour
Actually, Ken Masters is probably the strongest character never to win a match, unless I'm overlooking someone...

Ike.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/11/2008 1:45:58 PM | message detail
I'll take Ken over Ike!

Well, it'd be close.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/11/2008 1:46:26 PM | message detail
By the way, I'm loving the Chief's ASV stalling power!
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trannyscience | Posted 11/11/2008 1:48:07 PM | message detail
there's just too much to swing for him to make a move. he'll cut a few hundred but uh yeah.

Kratos Aurion is fairly strong for never having won a match. Diddy Kong too I guess.
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hailEC | Posted 11/11/2008 1:49:11 PM | message detail
i think we're all forgetting about THE prince of persia

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 11/11/2008 1:49:27 PM | message detail
Ken would be a low to normal mid carder if he got into more contests. His only 2 contests he got stuck with noble niners in the first round
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:50:32 PM | message detail
god damn you chief
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:50:39 PM | message detail
I'd take Ken > Chun Li
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:52:34 PM | message detail
On something more related note, I see KH is already against the sentiment, but how badly does Sonic need to bomb tomorrow to get people to entertain the idea of Sephiroth > Dante next round?
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/11/2008 1:53:42 PM | message detail
From: KleenexTissue50
On something more related note, I see KH is already against the sentiment, but how badly does Sonic need to bomb tomorrow to get people to entertain the idea of Sephiroth > Dante next round?

By being in any form of danger.
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