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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 627

Karma Hunter | Posted 11/10/2008 10:14:53 AM | message detail
Samus couldn't even really complain about her pictures against Zelda - she looked downright fantastic in every one. Zelda just worked the SFF entirely to her advantage, straight up. And she'd do it again, easily.

Now maybe that's not so bad looking at how well she held up to Mario this year, but it does belie vulnerability. How well Samus does with SFF depends on which Samus shows up to the match - it's not like only Mario can magically SFF her.
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CrazyAznChick | Posted 11/10/2008 10:16:18 AM | message detail
Zelda is damn good at holding up to SFF (outside of Link, but gAnon completly folded to him too). I can't think of any other non noble nine Nintendo character who holds up as well as she does
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 10:18:49 AM | message detail
I will say this though -- Midna over Ike isn't exactly crazy, and they both struggled to put away their opponents there -- Mewtwo moreso than Pikachu, but Midna could (should?) also be stronger and comes from a much more popular series. one thing we've learned is that you do not SFF the Zelda series under any circumstances.

well unless you're Samus last year but whatever


...or Tingle.



Yeah, rough transition and was a little late...le whoops.
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H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 10:22:00 AM | message detail
For what it's worth...maybe the SFF'd and the SFF'ers aren't the same for four-ways. We've seen Samus/Ganon both one-on-one and in four-ways (twice!), Mega/Zero in each, Crono/Vincent, and maybe some others. Some things have changed since then, some things haven't...but maybe our understanding has changed?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/10/2008 10:24:53 AM | message detail
Considering the disparity of performances we can see with SFF between rounds - Samus/Ganon, Sephiroth/Tifa - I think we can safely say we can't draw too many conclusions from any given four-way match.

This is also why I really anticipate a 1v1 contest. I think it would surprise us in ways that people aren't expecting.
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transience | Posted 11/10/2008 10:24:55 AM | message detail
Samus has certainly seemed SFF-proof in fourways - more resistant to Link than Sephiroth, only slightly phased by Ganondorf twice. it's why I cautiously entertain the idea of Samus beating Mario in the semifinals.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/10/2008 10:26:43 AM | message detail
I'd take Samus over Mario in the semis in a heartbeat (that is, if I didn't have Zack already there), but the Battle Royale gives me pause. I'm of the opinion that was the strongest Link we've ever seen and it had an effect... but still, that was an absolutely pitiful performance.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2008 10:28:31 AM | message detail
At this point I think drawing anything from any 4-way match is shaky at best.

I mean, Ike almost beats Ryu in a 1 on 1 match based on completely legitimate results. How the hell am I supposed to take 4-ways seriously after that?

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H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 10:41:15 AM | message detail
That just means we should do what we should have always done: take the stats with a grain of salt and look at the match-ups themselves.

It's harder for everyone, we know.
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__hiei__ | Posted 11/10/2008 10:46:52 AM | message detail
damn this match sucks

at least we have a good one coming.
TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 10:48:07 AM | message detail
I thought Samus had ZSS pics against Zelda for some reason. Whoops.

oh well blame it on the name Zelda, her holding up well against SFF (whoo Mario), and uh female bracket factor (like ganon/bowser overperforming against Seph).

all is still right with the world

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H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 10:50:54 AM | message detail
If memory serve me right, it doesn't hurt that Zelda did better against Link than Ganon did, too.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/10/2008 11:26:51 AM | message detail
Look at that, the Mewtwo stuffers stopped 14 hours and 23 minutes into the match. =D

Or that was just a really bad update.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 12:13:05 PM | message detail
When this match is over, Cloud will likely be doubling Mewtwo, yet had a tough time holding him off in the board vote

lol board vote
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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/10/2008 12:19:54 PM | message detail
Sora needs about 22 votes/5 minutes to come back, and he's been getting 10-15. For now, it looks like Squall will probably be safe in 3rd.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2008 12:21:38 PM | message detail
ASV doesn't really get going until the 4-5 EST range. That's when Sora started making his big cuts against Squall.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 12:40:32 PM | message detail
Now THIS is the Sora ASV we know and love.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/10/2008 1:10:14 PM | message detail
cloud sucks during the day confirmed
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Shast One | Posted 11/10/2008 1:13:14 PM | message detail
Cloud is a lame character, I voted Mewtwo
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 1:28:15 PM | message detail
Well Cloud is along with two VERY good ASV characters (Mewtwo and Sora), so him dropping fast in percentage isn't surprising.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 1:36:10 PM | message detail
Sora is getting quite a few 20%+ updates so far.

This guy is so much better in the asv then other times
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/10/2008 1:45:19 PM | message detail
Sora's on the loose!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2008 2:10:23 PM | message detail
Sora needs 23 votes an update to win...so he's par for the course!

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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/10/2008 2:11:16 PM | message detail
Sora...should not be losing. BadTasteFAQs.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2008 2:25:32 PM | message detail
Sora will get close, but he won't quite make it. He'll slow down as the match draws on.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/10/2008 2:30:23 PM | message detail
Squall will probably improve in the last couple hours, Sora really only has til 10, meaning he'll need like 33 per update to tie. Which he isn't getting
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 2:38:53 PM | message detail
I think Sora's gonna make it close enough that I'd still take Auron > Sora in that 4-way that's been tossed around forever now.

Sora's the most independent of the FF fanbase imo, and I honestly believe Mewtwo's presence here is hurting him more than it is either Cloud or Squall. As much as I hate 4-ways, I'd love to see that match go down.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 2:58:28 PM | message detail
Sora just cut Squall by 50

uh oh
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trannyscience | Posted 11/10/2008 2:59:38 PM | message detail
Sora would need to be at like 12-300 for him to do this. he's just got too much to make up.
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/10/2008 3:00:20 PM | message detail
o_O @ Squall there under 10%.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2008 3:00:45 PM | message detail
Sora's votes per update needed is still 23, BTW.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 3:03:06 PM | message detail
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 3:03:23 PM | message detail
Sora has just cut 100 votes in the last 2 updates. Its possible
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/10/2008 3:06:03 PM | message detail
Wow. If this adrenaline phase continues Sora may have a shot
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AmazingKirby | Posted 11/10/2008 3:06:15 PM | message detail
Those were kinda weird updates. Super mega unlikely, I'd say. And after today, there are no more good characters in the contest. =(
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 3:07:11 PM | message detail

From: AmazingKirby | #135
Those were kinda weird updates. Super mega unlikely, I'd say. And after today, there are no more good characters in the contest. =(



your name is kinda ironic due to this statement
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trannyscience | Posted 11/10/2008 3:09:02 PM | message detail
this always happens from like 5-7. Sandbag was down 2100 and was going a lot faster and still only won by like 300 votes or something.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/10/2008 3:11:42 PM | message detail
Squall is safe- he's still up 1500, and the ASV is really only strong for 2 more hours.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 3:15:04 PM | message detail
I remember someone last night was saying Squall would be safe if he got a 750 vote lead

people keep on underestimating the asv Sora has
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/10/2008 3:16:29 PM | message detail
No more adrenaline. Too bad Sora
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 3:17:57 PM | message detail
It's definitely not impossible for Sora to win here, but I seriously doubt it'll happen. He'll fall 250-400 short. Hope I'm wrong.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 3:19:14 PM | message detail
We're hyping a 3rd place finish here too much
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Tai | Posted 11/10/2008 3:19:30 PM | message detail
Lol @ whoever said Squall was a Top 10 character.

Or then again, this shows that 4-way is no-way.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/10/2008 3:20:07 PM | message detail
Well in a contest as boring as this one you have to grasp at straws
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ffmasterjose | Posted 11/10/2008 3:39:47 PM | message detail
When I was first reading through these last few posts I thought Sora had overtaken Mewtwo, lawl.
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Tai | Posted 11/10/2008 3:40:34 PM | message detail
When I was first reading through these last few posts I thought Sora had overtaken Mewtwo, lawl.

You wouldn't have to go in here if something like that happened to find a reaction.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 11/10/2008 3:40:43 PM | message detail
From: Tai
Lol @ whoever said Squall was a Top 10 character

There's a Cloud in the way.
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satai_delenn | Posted 11/10/2008 3:47:20 PM | message detail
Come on, Sora, you can do it! Just make an inspirational speech about light, Squall will get disgusted and leave.
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Justin_Crossing | Posted 11/10/2008 4:35:21 PM | message detail
Albion, I can't believe I'm asking you to do this...

Master Chief. dum pink ball. etc. etc.
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CrazyAznChick | Posted 11/10/2008 4:40:21 PM | message detail

From: Justin_Crossing | #079
Albion, I can't believe I'm asking you to do this...

Master Chief. dum pink ball. etc. etc.



I already was planning to. I didn't rally Chief last round but I'm gonna do everything in my power to make sure he advances
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