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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 627
| LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2008 6:18:36 AM | message detail |
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Yesterday's chart: Time | Mega Man | Cube | Snake | Zero EBV | 26.80% | 23.34% | 36.07% | 13.79% | (0:00-0:05) PHV | 24.92% | 25.04% | 35.64% | 14.40% | (0:00-1:00) FNV | 23.31% | 24.13% | 38.14% | 14.41% | (1:00-6:00) BSV | 23.57% | 21.41% | 41.27% | 13.75% | (6:00-9:00) DSV | 23.79% | 24.31% | 37.39% | 14.51% | (9:00-14:30) ASV | 23.35% | 23.89% | 37.33% | 15.42% | (14:30-22:00) SNV | 25.23% | 22.90% | 35.16% | 16.71% | (22:00-24:00) And the winner of yesterday's rally time was...Zero! That's right, the only guy to increase percentage during the afternoon! And Snake basically stayed the same there. Psh, all this rallying was blowing smoke, guys! Don't buy into it! Seriously though, great early morning vote for Snake, and great second night vote for Mega Man and Zero (as usual). Cube died during the early morning, but he was pretty consistent otherwise. Also, I like saying Cube/Snake because it sounds like cubed steak. Yesterday's stats: Solid Snake – 50.00% Weighted Companion Cube – 38.85% Mega Man – 38.69% Zero – 28.27% Division 5 Stats Solid Snake – 50.00% Weighted Companion Cube – 38.85% Mega Man – 38.69% Ryu Hayabusa – 34.11% Zero – 32.95% Vivi Orunitia – 32.63% Tidus – 29.71% Donkey Kong – 23.79% Nero – 19.28% Pit – 19.12% Albert Wesker – 19.02% Miles “Tails” Prower – 18.86% King DeDeDe – 17.96% Sackboy – 15.75% Banjo – 12.43% Captain Olimar – 11.07% I kept Tidus proportional to Mega Man here (though Mega Man was getting LFF'd a bit, didn't seem to be much though). If I keep him proportional to the Cube, Tidus fits in between Hayabusa and Zero here. Tidus > Vivi indirectly?! Who knows? And Tails can't even beat LFF'd Pit, and with how crappy Wesker looked, he still beat Tails. Olimar is the big loser here! Division 5 Raw Stats Solid Snake – 50.00% Weighted Companion – 38.85% Mega Man – 38.69% Tidus – 33.95% Vivi Orunitia – 32.63% Zero – 28.27% Donkey Kong – 27.19% Ryu Hayabusa – 24.26% Nero – 22.03% Miles “Tails” Prower – 21.55% Albert Wesker – 19.02% Sackboy – 15.75% Pit – 13.87% King DeDeDe – 13.03% Banjo – 12.43% Captain Olimar – 11.07% Here I kept Tidus proportional to Cube to give him his highest possible value (other than keeping him proportional to round 1, which makes him equal to Mega Man!). Zero doesn't drop off too hard, but the LFF was obviously there. Let me know if you like the percentages that Tidus, DK, and Tails have here or the ones in the other stats better. I'm undecided. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/10/2008 6:22:54 AM | message detail |
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Also Mewtwo is putting up a Vincent like performance now. >_> --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 235/336 Today's Match: Cloud > Yoshi |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 6:23:40 AM | message detail |
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Also, as somebody who was defending Mewtwo a lot last round, I do want
to suggest there's a chance Mewtwo bombs next round. I do still think
Cloud SFF'd Mewtwo to some degree and believe Midna largely resisted
SFF from a hindered Mewtwo, causing a LFF-situation as well. That said,
this round is the first time we ever saw Mewtwo without another
Nintendo character (though I believe all three Square characters today
were in KH:CoM, but whatever) and Cloud had far more reason to have
overlap with Squall and Sora than Mewtwo, so any SFF-disadvantage
Mewtwo had against Cloud would probably be overlooked in today's
match... ...but in the next round, it is down to two RPG characters again: Cloud and Mewtwo. Squall and Sora won't be there to protect Mewtwo. On top of that, though Solid Snake isn't Nintendo, he has recently gained a lot of respect from Nintendo fans for SSBB; that will compete with Mewtwo's general fanbase to some degree. Solid is much hotter right now so it's not impossible; if nothing else, it simply tugs at Mewtwo from another direction (kinda like Cloud/Midna). Throw in that this is the first time Mewtwo's ever faced two Noble Niners at once, and Mewtwo may simply become overwhelmed. WCC getting a more static amount of votes than your average character isn't good for Mewtwo, either, especially if these ideas of him being hindered next round are legit. Mewtwo's doing great right now, but I would be a little surprised if he held up like this in the next round, too. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2008 6:56:24 AM | message detail |
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I don't think it makes sense having WCC above MM considering MM easily beat him twice before Zero was added in. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/10/2008 7:02:36 AM | message detail |
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Cloud is over 44% and rising now- good show for him. It will be
interesting to see if the FFVII fanbase sides with Sephiroth in the
semifinal in the hopes of pushing him over Snake, or if they side with
Cloud to defend his first place, thinking that Sephiroth is a lost
cause. Or, they might not believe Sephiroth is a lost cause and vote
for Cloud (or Snake!) to get Sephiroth out in order to improve Cloud's
chances against Link in the final. --- Crono's quest to beat Mario: 5 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 7:06:05 AM | message detail |
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I understand that Sora's a "unique" entity in Kingdom Hearts, but
how many people bought it for reasons that weren't related to Final
Fantasy characters being in it? Not a lot, I'd imagine. And I said that
Sora would have a hard time being a favorite over both Cloud and
Squall. He might be able to come back with his beastly ASV and take
third place, but still. Cloud's gettin' Sora good, too. I think Sora would stand out much more if Mewtwo was replaced by another FF-character. As is, it's a match with two FF-leads, KH's lead, and a fan-favorite from Pokemon. It's easy to see Mewtwo stands out the most, though Sora does differ from the two FF-leads. Throw Auron in Mewtwo's place and let Cloud drop down the FF7-chain to Tifa though, and Sora will stand out much more than he does today. It may not help him much, but if Sora can catch up to Squall today, then I can only think Sora would do better with more FF-characters...even if it's just marginally better. Also, a big reason KH started well was because of FF-characters, yes...and two of the most anticipated cameos were Cloud's and Sephiroth's -- KH got big largely off of FF7's power and fanbase. I can see Cloud hurting Sora rather badly from coming from that foundation and knowing how strong Cloud is. Right now it doesn't look like Cloud's really hurt Sora or Squall more than the other though, which is pretty interesting; Sora's down some from the last round right now, but the ASV should pull him back up. I think Auron/Sora/Squall/Tifa is still just as much in question as ever before. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 7:08:11 AM | message detail |
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I'll agree about not liking WCC > MM in the stats, though MM only
faced it once before this round. Perhaps going with WCC-by-Tidus in R2
would be better? Man, SFF/LFF is a pain! --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 11/10/2008 7:16:52 AM | message detail |
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I think Sora will have an ASV just as (relatively) good as last match.
That's when all of his unique fans (aka the kiddiez who've played KH
but not an FF game) have the most effect; Cloud shouldn't hamper them
much. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 7:20:59 AM | message detail |
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And now...a four-way: Gordon Freeman Magus Mewtwo Rikku --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| Iamthekuzalol | Posted 11/10/2008 7:22:02 AM | message detail |
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Mewtwo > Gordon --- Steroid Snake's quest : To advance to the final for the third consecutive time. Please support him, thks. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 7:26:11 AM | message detail |
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I imagine Sora's fans will still stand out in the ASV, yeah...but given
how the Square-fanbase obviously follows Cloud, how Cloud is solid in
the ASV on his own, and arguably having the two FF-characters who tug
at Sora's fanbase the most in today's match, Sora may not to as well
with it this round as he did in the last round. It probably depends on
how many American kids have played KH and not FF7/8 though, as you
said, but a lot of them have and Sora's two biggest banes are here
together. I don't know if his ASV will be SO strong because of that. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| Master Moltar | Posted 11/10/2008 7:32:39 AM | message detail |
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Ouch, Mewtwo is falling a bit faster than I thought he would after his impressive start. Who gets the ASV? Sora/Mewtwo/Cloud...poor Squall either way. I don't see all three of them increasing though. Maybe Cloud or Mewtwo will take a slight fall. Can't see Sora going down from there though. He isn't going to drastically rise, but he's going to cut Squall's lead a bit. --- hmm well then |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 7:37:33 AM | message detail |
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it's probably more of a stall than a cut. Squall's not bad at all in the day. as for Leon, Sora's trends speak to me more than anything - he has a lot of fans who came along for the Disney stuff and not Final Fantasy. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 8:31:10 AM | message detail |
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Don't forget I'm gonna do all day rallying for Chief when deciding
your pick, too. If yesterdays match was any indication, its a factor! Worked so well for the Chief last round, too! I didn't rally him last round. --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2008 9:03:05 AM | message detail |
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as for Leon, Sora's trends speak to me more than anything - he has a
lot of fans who came along for the Disney stuff and not Final Fantasy. FFVII has different trends from any other FF. Well, just Cloud, Sephiroth, and Vincent, but still. That's not really a convincing argument for Sora being distinct, especially when he's still getting whooped by Cloud. I never said he had no fans that came along just for the Disney stuff, but he's clearly getting overwhelmed by the fans who came along for the Final Fantasy ride. Oh, and I forgot about Mega Man/Cube last round. That's why I didn't adjust Mega Man accordingly. Here we go: Division 5 Stats Solid Snake – 50.00% Mega Man – 43.55% Weighted Companion Cube – 38.85% Ryu Hayabusa – 34.11% Zero – 32.95% Vivi Orunitia – 32.63% Tidus – 29.71% Donkey Kong – 23.79% Nero – 19.28% Pit – 19.12% Albert Wesker – 19.02% Miles “Tails” Prower – 18.86% King DeDeDe – 17.96% Sackboy – 15.75% Banjo – 12.43% Captain Olimar – 11.07% --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:06:40 AM | message detail |
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FF7 is also clearly different from every other FF. KH is its own thing
- sure, there's overlap there, but I think there's a decent KH audience
that doesn't know or care about FF. the problem is that Cloud's also in
KH. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:07:39 AM | message detail |
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From: transience | #066 I can't see Kingdom Hearts fans who don't play FF to vote for a supporting character over the main character though. I dunno. --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:10:47 AM | message detail |
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I've not played more than a few hours of KH so I can't speak to Cloud's
role, but given how much he seemed to have boosted I figured he gained
a lot of fans from KH. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:11:14 AM | message detail |
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(same goes for Squall, perhaps even moreso.) --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:12:31 AM | message detail |
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I only played like 2/3 of KH before I got bored, but I remember Cloud
being in some arena fights in the Hercules spot, without doing much
else. I remember Squall being alot more significant. --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 11/10/2008 9:14:11 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, Cloud's...not really relevant in KH. Which is why it's always
baffled me that people say he got a KH boost. Squall was far more
important and had a lot more screen time. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:14:19 AM | message detail |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1sWX2nosiw&feature=related Heres an interesting video I just found though --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:23:53 AM | message detail |
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well, this match isn't just Cloud vs. Sora. Squall's there too. Sora's kinda dealing with it from both sides. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 9:33:00 AM | message detail |
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I'm still tempted to go Auron > Sora in that 4-way Leon. Right now
I'm kind of leaning towards Auron > Squall though. I'd like to see
how this match finishes before taking a definitive stance on it --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 9:38:22 AM | message detail |
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Forget that, I want to see how Wednesday's match goes before I take a definitive stance! --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 9:43:27 AM | message detail |
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Question: how would the match change if Mewtwo was replaced by Pikachu today? --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:45:51 AM | message detail |
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From: H__RR____H | #076 27-28% --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2008 9:49:13 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, does anyone still want to argue Mewtwo > Pikachu? Well, I guess it depends on how Pikachu decides to act that day. FF7 is also clearly different from every other FF. I understand that, but the characters within the game don't even have the same trends. I'm just saying that Sora being a day vote character doesn't speak to having a distinct fanbase. Sure, it's more distinct than Cloud and Squall, but obviously, the overlap is still very apparent. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:49:59 AM | message detail |
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I don't think there should be any arguement over Mewtwo being stronger then Pikachu after the L Block match. --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:50:56 AM | message detail |
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Mewtwo and Pikachu are both unknowns. Pokemon in generally is Really
Freaking Weird. I won't make a call on who's stronger than who there -
I still feel Mewtwo's got a good shot. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:52:57 AM | message detail |
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I will say this though -- Midna over Ike isn't exactly crazy, and they
both struggled to put away their opponents there -- Mewtwo moreso than
Pikachu, but Midna could (should?) also be stronger and comes from a
much more popular series. one thing we've learned is that you do not
SFF the Zelda series under any circumstances. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| transience | Posted 11/10/2008 9:53:10 AM | message detail |
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well unless you're Samus last year but whatever --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:53:54 AM | message detail |
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Samus this year, too. --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 9:55:16 AM | message detail |
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queen of sff m i rite samus > link imo --- mmm test icicles |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/10/2008 9:57:21 AM | message detail |
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Samus rarely has been able to use SFF to her advantage. She tends to stink up the joint against Nintendo. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 9:58:07 AM | message detail |
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stop talking --- mmm test icicles |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 9:59:11 AM | message detail |
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She SFFs non noble nine Nintendo like crazy --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/10/2008 10:01:11 AM | message detail |
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Samus crushed Midna last year, beat Sephiroth with Link and Cloud in
the poll, and handily beat Vincent with Ganondorf hanging around. For
all the flak she's gotten for that (awesome!) match with Mario, she's
done pretty well against everything else Nintendo. --- Mustache...and green... |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/10/2008 10:01:17 AM | message detail |
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Samus's ability with Nintendo SFF is really underrated due to that one
match with Mario. I'd go with Pikachu over Mewtwo indirectly, but would
probably go with Mewtwo in a direct match between them. --- Crono's quest to beat Mario: 5 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/10/2008 10:02:04 AM | message detail |
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She SFFs non noble nine Nintendo like crazy Really? Because I seriously doubt she even SFFed Isaac. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 10:02:11 AM | message detail |
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she's never been bad against anyone nintendo except for mario she held up great against Link, destroyed Sonic, and then everyone sub noble nine she's beat with either her expected percentage or better. "terrible" --- mmm test icicles |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/10/2008 10:04:59 AM | message detail |
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everyone sub noble nine she's beat with either her expected percentage or better. Yeah that 55% on Zelda sure was something --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 10:06:13 AM | message detail |
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oh hey look at that solid snake almost lost to FROG --- mmm test icicles |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/10/2008 10:06:50 AM | message detail |
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Looks like someone's distracting from their lost argument --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/10/2008 10:07:03 AM | message detail |
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And link lost to a tetris piece --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| TestIcicles | Posted 11/10/2008 10:07:17 AM | message detail |
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more like joke pictures = joke result --- mmm test icicles |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/10/2008 10:07:41 AM | message detail |
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Cloud to lead Snake at the freeze next round AND the round after that. Book it! --- Crono's quest to beat Mario: 5 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/10/2008 10:07:46 AM | message detail |
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everyone sub noble nine she's beat with either her expected percentage or better. Need I remind you of her bomb against Isaac? She couldn't even triple him. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 10:12:12 AM | message detail |
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...or Tingle. For what it's worth in the past two contests, Pika beat L-Block who beat Ryu twice (depending on which round you go by, Ryu's expected to get either 47.29% or 43.89% on Pika this contest). Pika also soundly beat Captain Falcon and Ike. Alternatively, Mewtwo was expected to get 40.74% on Ryu last year despite Toad and Bowser (not to mention making Ryu the only non-Nintendo option). Mewtwo has also soundly beaten Toad and Ness before, though struggled to beat Midna. Pikachu's earned the right to be the favorite. Still, I wouldn't call Mewtwo a waste or anything -- he's not so far behind Pika, I think Mewtwo's chances improve if he faced Pika head-to-head, and he's currently having the best match of his life right now (circumstances be damned). He can hold his own in the Nintendo totem pole and win some legit matches. It makes me curious about Charizard now...! --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/10/2008 10:14:05 AM | message detail |
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...or Tingle. What are you getting at? Samus never faced Tingle. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
