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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 627
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:09:43 PM | message detail |
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Crono > Link hype train starts here. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- CB7 Score: 252/336 http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 10:11:23 PM | message detail |
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--- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:11:55 PM | message detail |
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Yes! --- Crono's quest to beat Mario: 5 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| Xcarvenger | Posted 11/9/2008 10:11:55 PM | message detail |
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choo choo --- Kweh! Kweh!!! --> http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=xcarvenger For all your board 8 needs: www.board8.wikia.com |
| idyvino | Posted 11/9/2008 10:14:38 PM | message detail |
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Go Go Mewtwo I guess?? --- Life is Tough |
| PegasusLover123 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:15:35 PM | message detail |
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Do you think Mewtwo has a sufficient lead to Safeguard 2nd place from Sora and Squall, or will Sora make a comeback? --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:15:53 PM | message detail |
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Sora rocking the night vote --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Master Moltar | Posted 11/9/2008 10:16:58 PM | message detail |
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crono fans setting themselves up for disappointment again i see at least you guys are used to it --- hmm well then |
| transience | Posted 11/9/2008 10:17:54 PM | message detail |
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wonder who wins out of Squall and Sora. I guess I'd predict Sora but whatever. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:18:05 PM | message detail |
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yes i'm disappointed he won't win this year, but making it to the finals is fine --- CB7 Score: 252/336 http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/9/2008 10:18:21 PM | message detail |
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I dunno. Part of me says Mewtwo's moving on, but with it's constant decrease, the other part of me is not so sure. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:18:26 PM | message detail |
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From: transience | #009 After seeing soras domination during the asv last round, I've gotta say Sora --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/9/2008 10:18:35 PM | message detail |
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Do you think Mewtwo has a sufficient lead to Safeguard 2nd place from Sora and Squall, or will Sora make a comeback? Mewtwo should win fairly easily. --- What do you think of the planetarium? The beautiful twinkling of eternity that will never fade, no matter when. All the stars in all the sky are waiting for you |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:18:58 PM | message detail |
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From: Fayt_Esteed | #011 He's moving on. Theres NO way at this point he's not gonna advance --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:19:14 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo has this 100% wrapped up. Squall and Sora have no chance of coming back here. None at all. --- CB7 Score: 252/336 http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b146/KleenexTissue501/Saturn.gif |
| PegasusLover123 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:19:18 PM | message detail |
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Still Crono did a fine job of teaming up with Pikachu to kill the King of Jokes that is L-block. --- "If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh." -Magus |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:19:30 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo is very very safe. He has over a 1400 lead, and it's still rising fast- Crono would be safe with this lead at this time. --- Crono's quest to beat Mario: 5 days until: Crono vs. Samus vs. Vincent vs. Pikachu |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:22:01 PM | message detail |
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It kinda saddens me, SFF or not, to see Squall being blown out by a guy who couldnt even advance past round 1 last year. --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Xcarvenger | Posted 11/9/2008 10:22:32 PM | message detail |
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After seeing soras domination during the asv last round, I've gotta say Sora Voters didn't like smiling Squall. Seriously though, Cloud's gonna take a huge chunk of ASV leaving Sora (and Squall) with almost nothing. If Squall can build 750 votes lead overnight, he should be safe. --- Kweh! Kweh!!! --> http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=xcarvenger For all your board 8 needs: www.board8.wikia.com |
| ZFS | Posted 11/9/2008 10:23:18 PM | message detail |
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crono hype there's a mario in the way --- http://i33.tinypic.com/2s0xn3o.gif http://i34.tinypic.com/15wdsu0.gif |
| Chamek | Posted 11/9/2008 10:23:43 PM | message detail |
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I can't see next round going anything other than Samus > Vincent, or perhaps Vincent > Samus. Vincent is already arguably stronger than Crono, and Crono shares some strength with Samus (their popularity stems from having both appeared on Nintendo consoles, not to mention the "old school factor") and Pikachu will undoubtedly leech more of Crono's votes as well (again, Nintendo console support). Samus and Pikachu clearly overlap (Metroid vs Pokemon, anyone?), so we will in essence see a three-way LFF between them, while Vincent only loses a small number of votes to Crono, and gains a large number of votes from the "hardcore factor" and/or anti-Nintendo'ers. Merely knowing that Vincent has beaten Crono in a four-way match before should make people weary of Crono impressing in R4. I mean, Pikachu was 4% away from outright beating Crono in their R3 match, and that was with L-Block taking away some of his GameBoy votes. Even if Crono does manage to squeak by, being in a poll with Link/Mario/Samus will kill him. He will suffer insane LFF from all three of them, and would be lucky to finish in second. --- Wii: 7747-8250-9901-7998 Name: Jims Okay, you have me beat, the best I got is I used to be a boy. ~MYC |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:24:03 PM | message detail |
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From: ZFS | #020 He's getting revenge from the last time --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:24:41 PM | message detail |
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and that was with L-Block taking away some of his GameBoy votes. really now --- CB7 Score: 252/336 http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z114/Javer8000/FanimeCon2008/Sandbag.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:25:15 PM | message detail |
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From: Chamek | #021 You're looking too deep into it if you think Pikachu and Crono SFF --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| ZFS | Posted 11/9/2008 10:25:28 PM | message detail |
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that was with L-Block taking away some of his GameBoy votes. Okay let's not get crazy here --- http://i33.tinypic.com/2s0xn3o.gif http://i34.tinypic.com/15wdsu0.gif |
| Mario vs Crono | Posted 11/9/2008 10:26:19 PM | message detail |
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crono hype there's a mario in the way It's been a while since we've had a Mario vs Crono battle. Crono won't be a pushover this time. --- 2005: Mario | 55739 | 53.85% | Crono | 47762 | 46.15% | lead of 7977 | 2004: Crono | 51430 | 53.24% | Mario | 45165 | 46.76% | lead of 6265 | |
| transience | Posted 11/9/2008 10:26:46 PM | message detail |
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haha gameboy votes GFF --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:27:24 PM | message detail |
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From: Mario vs Crono | #026 epic name --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| transience | Posted 11/9/2008 10:27:42 PM | message detail |
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okay Sora's coming in last here. I guess Cloud's hurting them equally. --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/9/2008 10:27:44 PM | message detail |
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Wow...And I thought I had seen it all... --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| Demon HunterX | Posted 11/9/2008 10:28:10 PM | message detail |
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that was with L-Block taking away some of his GameBoy votes. best SFF argument yet. --- Currently playing: HoMM3, FFII Next up: AJ ; Awaiting: SC2 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:29:05 PM | message detail |
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crono and gordon freeman can both in games that can be played on PC (emulation) PC sff --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| edwardsdv | Posted 11/9/2008 10:30:21 PM | message detail |
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HeroicTronbonne, I believe you owe me an apology for earlier. I totally called it. |
| RPGGamer0 | Posted 11/9/2008 10:30:58 PM | message detail |
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Albion brings up a good point. Everything SFFs nearly everything because you can emulate nearly everything. --- |PM| http://img.imgcake.com/lastcalvin&hobbes.jpg |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 10:30:59 PM | message detail |
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no u --- http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20071030/cube-2_540x618.jpg http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/9/2008 10:31:03 PM | message detail |
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I never thought I'd see a user with the name Mario vs Crono... --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| transience | Posted 11/9/2008 10:31:46 PM | message detail |
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Mario Cheated is a better username anyway --- xyzzy http://img.imgcake.com/samusvsganondorfvsvincentvsgordon.jpg |
| Xcarvenger | Posted 11/9/2008 10:33:25 PM | message detail |
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Make sure we get some sprite pics next round! woo Crono > Samus due
to Crono overperformance, Samus underperformance and Pika resisting
Nintendo SFF (Vincent is a non-factor <_<) --- Kweh! Kweh!!! --> http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=xcarvenger For all your board 8 needs: www.board8.wikia.com |
| Chamek | Posted 11/9/2008 10:34:03 PM | message detail |
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I'm not saying it's the only factor, or even a deciding factor, but to
argue that at least a few of L-Blocks and Pikachu's votes were not
split because of their dual presence on the GameBoy would be absurd. A lot of people got into gaming because of the GameBoy, and a lot
of people's two favorite games for it are Tetris/Pokemon R/B/Y. They're
easily two of the biggest selling games for the system, if not the two
biggest selling games for it? If people are going to try to argue that Snake can now take an SFF-beating from Nintendo opponents due to having appeared in Brawl, I don't see how this is any different. Last year it was common to see people arguing that Snake would be SFF'd and lose a match because he was in Brawl, when I don't see how it's possible for him to have done anything but gain support after appearing in the game. Prior to the game's announcement/release he had little Nintendo support, afterwards he almost undoubtedly has some. Really, people. --- Wii: 7747-8250-9901-7998 Name: Jims Okay, you have me beat, the best I got is I used to be a boy. ~MYC |
| Master Moltar | Posted 11/9/2008 10:41:03 PM | message detail |
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we make excuses for snake because we love him and have to justify any sign of weakness because in reality he has none hail snake --- hmm well then |
| edwardsdv | Posted 11/9/2008 10:42:33 PM | message detail |
| And with all that said, Crono has been surviving and Vincent is so far removed from release date that it boils down to minor FF7 character vs. chrono trigger's standard bearer. |
| Tequilla Gundam | Posted 11/9/2008 11:10:42 PM | message detail |
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Anyone think Link can SFF Mario harder than Luigi or Zelda + Mudkip to allow MMX to slip in? --- Feel my truth. |
| BDawg | Posted 11/9/2008 11:12:15 PM | message detail |
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Link always rampages but there's no guarantee he spares X. Oh no ZackFAQs!!! --- Should I start running now? |
| Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 11/9/2008 11:29:36 PM | message detail |
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This match does make Zack's chances look better. I think the Zelda/Mario/Mega Man fanbases are a bit too diverse still though. I'm definitely liking the winner of Crono/Vincent making it to the finals if Mario holds on. I don't see how either one could possibly get knocked out in a Link/Mario/Samus match. |
| earth angel | Posted 11/10/2008 3:07:11 AM | message detail |
| I think Sora for the first time today just went
> Squall and Mewtwo. But down this much, even this early, I don't
think it will matter. --- http://club.ign.com/b/list/custom?&lid=100018&owner=bgbball33&mode=vown Game and DVD lists ---^ Brawl FC: 4768-7140-5656 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/10/2008 6:08:52 AM | message detail |
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As bad as Squall is doing he's still doing much better against Cloud than he did in 2004. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 235/336 Today's Match: Cloud > Yoshi |
| H__RR____H | Posted 11/10/2008 6:10:52 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, no way Sora beats Mewtwo here...and there's a chance Sora's ASV
won't look so hot, either. Cloud and Mewtwo are each pretty good with
it and Sora "only" cut into Squall by ~1,700 votes last round; Squall
is already nearly beating Sora by that much despite smaller
percentages, and Mewtwo and especially Cloud have far more of the
percentages. Don't count Sora out for third since Squall will fall hard in about six hours, but I don't know how high Sora will necessarily rise. Changing trends enough for such an upset when Squall/Sora are only commanding ~32.5% of the poll is a tall order, especially with other RPG characters in the poll who are good with the day-vote. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/10/2008 6:10:57 AM | message detail |
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Now this makes me wonder what happened to Magus...He was hyped as a
Noble Nine breaker, and now he's been sucking ass in every match he's
in since 2005. Clearly losing to Knuckles tarnished his image -
permanently. That's a big fall from grace - from one of the strongest
contenders to one of the Board 8 laughingstock. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2008 6:11:17 AM | message detail |
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Don't forget I'm gonna do all day rallying for Chief when deciding
your pick, too. If yesterdays match was any indication, its a factor! Worked so well for the Chief last round, too! Uhhh...Dante > Leon won't surprise me tomorrow. I'll just say that. (And I mean both of them above Kirby and Chief. Honestly, they're both probably legitimately stronger than those two at this point and by a noticeable margin. We'll see though!) And I called Squall > Sora here (too bad I had Mewtwo in last!). Squall always waits until round 3 to SFF Sora. I told you guys! Plus, seriously, I understand that Sora's a "unique" entity in Kingdom Hearts, but how many people bought it for reasons that weren't related to Final Fantasy characters being in it? Not a lot, I'd imagine. And I said that Sora would have a hard time being a favorite over both Cloud and Squall. He might be able to come back with his beastly ASV and take third place, but still. Cloud's gettin' Sora good, too. Hey, EC: Squall Auron Tifa Sora Let's go now. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 11/10/2008 6:12:11 AM | message detail |
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As bad as Squall is doing he's still doing much better against Cloud than he did in 2004. Sora's there messing with Cloud a bit, and when you get down to this low of a percentage, Squall's only going to do so poorly, I think. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
