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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 625

Lopen | Posted 11/9/2008 11:51:33 AM | message detail
Well, in reality, my bracket thanks Albion for his rallying here too.

Doesn't mean I condone it, though! Though it does make next round at least somewhat more interesting... Mega Man would just get flattened, sadly.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2008 11:51:44 AM | message detail
Well at least we can take solace in the knowledge that Mega Man will look terrible in the stats AS HE SHOULD

I mean I love Snake but c'mon break 40% on him Mega
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transience | Posted 11/9/2008 11:52:56 AM | message detail
actually he probably looks better in the stats thanks to Cube overperforming in round 4. MM would get flattened like he did in r4 last year; Cube will at least pull 20%.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 11:53:00 AM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #252
Well at least we can take solace in the knowledge that Mega Man will look terrible in the stats AS HE SHOULD

I mean I love Snake but c'mon break 40% on him Mega



Tidus might end up looking respectable in final xstats
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 11/9/2008 11:53:36 AM | message detail
HeroicTronBonne, mods can see deleted posts. No particular reason I'm bringing this up. =D
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 11:54:24 AM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #255
HeroicTronBonne, mods can see deleted posts. No particular reason I'm bringing this up. =D



>.>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 11:54:25 AM | message detail
so who was the one that said MM would do better here with Zero

who was it

THIS IS NOT BETTER WHY DID YOU NOT SUPPORT VIVI

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 11:55:15 AM | message detail
If Vivi was here, even I'd admit Cube would have no chance.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/9/2008 11:57:03 AM | message detail
Anyway, how much lingering hope remains in the idea of Chief upsetting Sonic? I know these two have spent two rounds trying to one-up each other in disappointment, but if Kirby is in that poll, I'd still give Chief a great shot.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2008 11:57:26 AM | message detail
I think it's negligible - I don't think MM is losing because of Zero.

I don't think MM is dead either.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 11:57:37 AM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #259
Anyway, how much lingering hope remains in the idea of Chief upsetting Sonic? I know these two have spent two rounds trying to one-up each other in disappointment, but if Kirby is in that poll, I'd still give Chief a great shot.



If Dante/Leon is there, Sonic will beat Chief. But Kirby makes it a very interesting match
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__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2008 11:57:55 AM | message detail
hey Albion i hope you have a very good plan to support Crono in case he needs it..though i feel he'll be able to advance on his own anyways.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 11:59:05 AM | message detail

From: __hiei__ | #262
hey Albion i hope you have a very good plan to support Crono in case he needs it..though i feel he'll be able to advance on his own anyways.



I've scouted out some places that might be of help come the match.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2008 11:59:08 AM | message detail
I still think Chief has a shot at first place next round, and second the round after. that is probably the most appealing part of the contest to me - the group of guys trying to outdo each other in suckage. right now I like Sonic.

Sonic vs. Chief/Dante, Vincent over Crono, Mario over Vincent. that's the big ones for me.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 11:59:10 AM | message detail
Well, looks like MM's boned. At least he did manage to take the lead earlier though.
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/9/2008 11:59:36 AM | message detail
Anyway, how much lingering hope remains in the idea of Chief upsetting Sonic? I know these two have spent two rounds trying to one-up each other in disappointment, but if Kirby is in that poll, I'd still give Chief a great shot.

If that match happens, Chief's got it. The trouble is going to be getting there.

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red sox 777 | Posted 11/9/2008 11:59:46 AM | message detail
MM has 62.30% on Zero right now. That's not conclusive to say that he'd be beating Cube with Vivi here.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 12:00:53 PM | message detail
I think it's negligible - I don't think MM is losing because of Zero.

Zero is doing a good 6% worse on Snake than he did last round, and MM...yeah, you're crazy if you think they aren't being affected.


I don't think MM is dead either.

Rallying adds about 30 votes an update to Cube. All Albion has to do is not have a life and WCC has it locked up.

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transience | Posted 11/9/2008 12:01:55 PM | message detail
if Vivi was here, he'd probably be above 15%. if that's the case, MM is most likely losing by more.
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transience | Posted 11/9/2008 12:02:12 PM | message detail
basically, you can't judge a Cube like you would a normal character.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 12:02:48 PM | message detail
Are you people still equating % to votals? It's literally impossible for MM to do worse here with Vivi.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:03:24 PM | message detail
Also, as much as I dislike Albion being a douche, you guys are being awfully hypocritical here, as you were all cheering him on for rallying for Pikachu yesterday.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 12:04:10 PM | message detail
And you can easily judge Cube as being at least somewhat close to a normal character. He is *not* static - he's lost 4% every round.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/9/2008 12:05:00 PM | message detail
Mega's going to have to materialize his 'stellar' second night vote out of the ether to pull this one off. I've never really bought that CW about his trendline, but we'll see shortly.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:05:05 PM | message detail
Actually, percentage is very closely related to votes. There's no way MM would be doing worse relative to Snake with Vivi here- it's not conclusive to say he'd be doing better relative to Cube.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:05:32 PM | message detail
And just for the hell of it -

Mega Man + Zero = 38.11%
Snake = 37.88%

who wants sum
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 12:06:02 PM | message detail

From: Karma Hunter | #274
Mega's going to have to materialize his 'stellar' second night vote out of the ether to pull this one off. I've never really bought that CW about his trendline, but we'll see shortly.



If they are within 100 by the final 2 hours, we'll see a crazy 2 hours imo
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 12:07:55 PM | message detail
Let's say the Cube is static despite all evidence to the contrary and gets 30000 votes every match.

MM: 27000
Cube: 30000
Snake: a lot
Zero: 14000

Replace Zero with Vivi. The majority of Zero votes go to MM.

It's not hard.

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transience | Posted 11/9/2008 12:11:44 PM | message detail
that's not how it works. the addition of Vivi takes votes from Mega Man, too, and the diversity means Mega Man would suffer and get a lower percentage.

it's pretty inconclusive what would be happening if something else was here instead of Zero.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 12:13:26 PM | message detail
that's not how it works. the addition of Vivi takes votes from Mega Man, too, and the diversity means Mega Man would suffer and get a lower percentage.

Vivi takes much less vote away from MM than Zero does. Vivi also makes Snake so do a lot worse, making more % available to MM. Vivi also probably makes Cube do worse, as more variety=less apathy votes.


it's pretty inconclusive what would be happening if something else was here instead of Zero.

No it's not. I would bet my account that MM would be winning here with Vivi. Every single thing points to it.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:15:41 PM | message detail
Mega Man would be winning here if he was the only one in the poll !
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/9/2008 12:16:03 PM | message detail
Stop talking KP, you clearly don't understand what you're going on about. Vivi being here instead of Zero could result in MM doing better or worse, it all depends on the nature of the cube.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/9/2008 12:16:13 PM | message detail
It might even be a shutout, hell.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 12:16:20 PM | message detail

From: KleenexTissue50 | #281
Mega Man would be winning here if he was the only one in the poll !



QFT! Magus would somehow find a way to lose it if he was in the same situation though
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/9/2008 12:18:09 PM | message detail
it all depends on the nature of the cube.

The nature of the Cube is that of a relatively static characters who still decreases with tougher competition. He's not some mysterious entity.

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moe44 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:20:19 PM | message detail
that's not how it works. the addition of Vivi takes votes from Mega Man, too, and the diversity means Mega Man would suffer and get a lower percentage.

News flash, cube would ALSO get lower percentage unless you think he'd magically get more votes because of increased diversity. Maybe his vote total wouldn't lower but he'd still get lower % because of higher votals from increased diversity.

And megaman would get most of zero's votes, he'd definitely have higher vote totals.
transience | Posted 11/9/2008 12:20:20 PM | message detail
thanks for making my argument - that Mega Man can SFF Zero while he can't SFF Vivi.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 11/9/2008 12:20:37 PM | message detail
^5 Bio, I did the same recently, it's funny to see how much he posts, although I knew it already xD.

We all know he doesn't have indeed any life, he's simply a failure at life. It must be sad indeed
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Lopen | Posted 11/9/2008 12:22:19 PM | message detail
Mega Man would not be doing better if Vivi was here, that's dumb. Yes, Vivi would be at a higher percentage, but that doesn't mean Mega Man would be at a lower percentage. That means Snake and the Cube would take more damage proportional to Mega Man from Vivi, and Mega Man would be doing better.

Seriously what the hell are you people talking about.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 12:22:20 PM | message detail

From: linkhatesganon | #288
^5 Bio, I did the same recently, it's funny to see how much he posts, although I knew it already xD.

We all know he doesn't have indeed any life, he's simply a failure at life. It must be sad indeed



Says the guy who used to beg me for cyber sex on aim
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moe44 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:23:51 PM | message detail
thanks for making my argument - that Mega Man can SFF Zero while he can't SFF Vivi.

Your argument is hella dumb then. SFF means he gets less votes relative to others stilll, most of zero's votes comes from mega's fanbase while vivi would steal from everyone. There's no way megaman wouldn't be winning unless vivi hurts mega more than the others somehow.
GrapefruitKing | Posted 11/9/2008 12:24:06 PM | message detail
And you said NO!?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 12:24:41 PM | message detail

From: GrapefruitKing | #292
And you said NO!?



well, I said Yes once, but then he kept on begging me time and time again after that and it creeped me out <.<;
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/9/2008 12:25:31 PM | message detail
people who says "hella _____" should be put to death

imo

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__hiei__ | Posted 11/9/2008 12:26:23 PM | message detail
lets put this in a very simple way

megaman sffing Zero in a match makes him overperform % wise,but also makes the other two in the match overperform much more. he's overperforming but he's disadvantaged in relation to the other two.that's how SFF works

plus there's always that argument that Zero somehow Reverse SFF's megaman instead.
moe44 | Posted 11/9/2008 12:26:29 PM | message detail
People who says imo should be crucified.
transience | Posted 11/9/2008 12:26:50 PM | message detail
Your argument is hella dumb then. SFF means he gets less votes relative to others stilll, most of zero's votes comes from mega's fanbase while vivi would steal from everyone. There's no way megaman wouldn't be winning unless vivi hurts mega more than the others somehow.

this is true -- when you're dealing with a normal character. but you're dealing with a Cube, a static entity. Cube will get the same amount no matter if it's Link or some other garbage entrant.

Cube being fairly static means that Mega Man just needs to top 25% and he wins. Vivi getting a higher percentage than Zero will here means he has less percentage to work with. it's not all that crazy.
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Lopen | Posted 11/9/2008 12:27:06 PM | message detail
Then listen to me because I didn't put a "hella" there. It's still a ridiculously dumb idea.
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vcharon | Posted 11/9/2008 12:28:31 PM | message detail
Sigh.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/9/2008 12:29:08 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #299
Sigh.



The Cube feeds on your tears.
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