GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 621
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2008 8:55:10 AM | message detail |
|
Er...Bowser wouldn't hold up better than Luigi, but he'd certainly hurt
Mario more than Liquid, relative to how much he hurts X. Mario's
probably going to end up in the 54% or so area against X though, and
Bowser would pull a very low percentage in a poll with Mario and Luigi,
so I think Mario might still win there. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2008 9:02:00 AM | message detail |
|
I'm pretty sure MMX > Mario if Bowser replaced Liquid. I am content
with Zelda and Luigi hurting Mario somewhat-similarly against MMX, but
Luigi/Bowser would be bound to affect Mario more. MMX should stand out
too much and Bowser's held up well to Mario before (even if it was
2004) so he shouldn't be absolutely crushed. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2008 9:05:32 AM | message detail |
|
I said this yesterday, but today's result doesn't necessarily have to
be the result of Luigi hurting Mario less than Zelda: it could just be
Mario losing votes last round from being the obvious favorite. It's
hard to say at this point what exactly is going on, but if Mario
crushes X easily next round with Link there, that explanation will look
more likely. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| hailEC | Posted 11/6/2008 9:08:41 AM | message detail |
|
Actually they were calling him a Noble Nine Breaker after his first match. I remember having many flame wars in this topic saying that I think Dante had a chance at beating him. Even the oracle average for that match was Vincent with 60% and that's with the 10 or so people supporting the Dante win. Yeah, I was flat out being called a moron for thinking Dante > Vincent. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| BDawg | Posted 11/6/2008 9:11:53 AM | message detail |
|
The important thing to remember is that Zelda had the kipper helping her out with the leeching. --- Should I start running now? |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 9:16:23 AM | message detail |
|
Samus > Vincent is general concensus for tomorrow right? --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2008 9:39:15 AM | message detail |
|
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure nobody but NN'ers had broken 78+%
on somebody before at the time...then Tifa goes on afew days later and
beats Vyse nearly as bad. It looked like the two new FF7 characters
were ready to metaphorically rape the contest. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/6/2008 9:41:39 AM | message detail |
|
Ha...! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=954 --- Mustache...and green... |
| HaRRicH | Posted 11/6/2008 9:44:01 AM | message detail |
|
...touche. Still, Kerrigan had big expectations and Vyse was our fodder-line at the time. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/6/2008 9:44:39 AM | message detail |
|
Also, though I didn't remember these: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=960 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=967 --- Mustache...and green... |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2008 9:45:26 AM | message detail |
|
Remember when Knuckles was our proclaimed "King of the Day Vote"? Akira Yuki Solid Snake Yuna Solid Snake Kefka Solid Snake No wonder! --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 9:46:23 AM | message detail |
|
That Bomberman match was the famous match that Bomberman was going up against a TV --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 9:47:20 AM | message detail |
|
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images//3/3d/Sum02b21.jpg --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2008 9:51:05 AM | message detail |
|
I'm about 95% sure of Samus > Vincent, but I wouldn't ENTIRELY rule
the upset out (as in... probably about as likely as MM > Snake if
Zero weren't there and we still had the sprite round). I'm feeling... lukewarm about Zack. Down to about a 10% confidence level or so. It all depends on which Link feels like showing up to that match (shouldn't underperform due to being "obvious", at any rate). I'm real interested in seeing how Cube does. Not seeing L go out here, but I guess he'll be interesting as well. I'm ridiculously confident in Mewtwo for some reason (augh my bracket). Kirby/MC/Dante/Leon is by far the match of the round. I can't even wrap my head around it, other than a great feeling that Kirby places. For the future... Upsets that I feel confident in: Samus making the finals... if Zack is there. And L isn't. ruh roh Upsets that I feel okay about: Snake > Cloud in the semis. Hey, hopefully Auron squeezes into that match too! <_< Upsets I feel queasy about: Zack making the semis AUGHsets: Master Chief in the semifinals owowow --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/6/2008 9:52:20 AM | message detail |
|
Don't forget that in the next year Knux faced Magus and Squall and
looked very good during the day in both of those matches (again, no
wonder). --- Mustache...and green... |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 9:53:31 AM | message detail |
|
The only reason I'm even considering Vincent might have a chance is due
to Ganon there. If Ganon wan't there, it wouldn't even be a question. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 11/6/2008 10:00:06 AM | message detail |
|
I'm feeling... lukewarm about Zack. Down to about a 10% confidence
level or so. It all depends on which Link feels like showing up to that
match (shouldn't underperform due to being "obvious", at any rate). Unfortunately last year the voters appeared to consider Link obvious against everyone until Cloud or L-Block showed up....he even lost the board vote to Sephiroth because the Ninty board vote went to Mario instead. Yeah, hopefully Link returns to being the King of SFF this year. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2008 11:47:20 AM | message detail |
|
With L-Block having upset the contest, though, I assume they'll be a
*little* more wary this time around. I can't see Sephy taking the board
vote against Link this year, and hopefully the always more imposing
than his strength Mario and the wildcard in MMX will make the voters
think twice before shirking Link. --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 11/6/2008 11:50:33 AM | message detail |
|
Who wouldn't want to shirk Link --- Yoblazer: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3699/thegamefaqsticketxr8.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:23:51 PM | message detail |
|
I'm surprised that the next match isn't being talked about more. I
don't want to give my analysis away, but let's just say that Vincent is
well within striking distance of Samus with Ganondorf in the poll. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 187/272 Today's Match: Mario > Mega Man X |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 11/6/2008 12:26:33 PM | message detail |
|
Samus has been looking too good so far and Vincent has been looking too
average to give that upset any legs, I think. Even with Ganondorf in
the poll. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:27:44 PM | message detail |
|
Samus did better in a stronger fourpack while already being hindered by
LFF. I wouldn't be too surprised if she took second, but that's hard to
argue based on what we've seen. --- Mustache...and green... |
| MasterMoltar | Posted 11/6/2008 12:30:15 PM | message detail |
|
woo liquid day vote and vincent ain't touching my sammy --- master moltar |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 12:30:54 PM | message detail |
|
Luigi might finish with 16% here, so I'd say he resisted the SFF pretty damn well compared to how we thought he may fold. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| MasterMoltar | Posted 11/6/2008 12:34:02 PM | message detail |
|
I'm not impressed. I figured he'd get doubled after factoring in SFF. How's Mario/Luigi supposed to go 1v1 anyway assuming no SFF? --- master moltar |
| Xuxon | Posted 11/6/2008 12:35:33 PM | message detail |
|
That's weird, my first instinct when reading the topic about people
outright denying Zack = Ryu was, they think Zack's even stronger than
Ryu? I was thinking, possible, but unlikely. Then people were like,
well Ryu Hayabusa okay, but not Street Fighter. That had me even more
confused because I don't think Street Fighter Ryu is much stronger than
Hayabusa. Maybe I just have a lower opinion of Ryu now. He lost to
Crono significantly worse than Zero did, and Hayabusa beat Zero in
round 1. Well anyway, I think Zack could be in the 30 BL range, but that he still doesn't stand a chance next round. He might barely beat X if X gets SFFed really badly, and Zack is at his maximum strength, but he won't come close to Mario. With L-Block's weakness shown, I still have some hope of Vincent or Crono beating it. I'd like to see Vincent, Crono, and L-Block again to decide, though. I expect Vincent to beat Samus tomorrow; if that doesn't happen, he probably can't beat L-Block next round. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/24, Marcello defeated (12 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 12:36:14 PM | message detail |
|
How's Mario/Luigi supposed to go 1v1 anyway assuming no SFF? I checked last night due to last years xstats, and Mario would win 64-36 without SFF being factored in. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 12:37:28 PM | message detail |
|
Ryu (2007c) VS Ryu Hayabusa (2007c) Ryu has a strength of 28.05. Ryu Hayabusa has a strength of 23.73. Ryu wins with 57.70% of the vote! A win of 21,091 with 136,947 total votes cast. He's not ALOT stronger, but he is stronger by a bit. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Xuxon | Posted 11/6/2008 12:41:52 PM | message detail |
|
Well that's round 2 Hayabusa. I don't think Hayabusa's anywhere near that weak 1v1. For Samus vs Vincent, think about it this way: Falco + Scorpion vs Frog + Nightmare. I'll pick the former any day of the week, that's why I think Vincent has first. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/24, Marcello defeated (12 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:45:36 PM | message detail |
|
Samus is only expected to beat Vincent 56/44 looking at last year's
stats and looking at what Zelda did to Mario compare to Luigi I think
people should be more worried. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 187/272 Today's Match: Mario > Mega Man X |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2008 12:46:35 PM | message detail |
|
Last year's stats? uhhhhhh --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 12:46:48 PM | message detail |
|
From: charmander6000 | #180 I think the reason more people aren't worried is because Ganon didn't really effect her last round. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| hailEC | Posted 11/6/2008 12:47:25 PM | message detail |
|
Last year's stats? uhhhhhh albion post --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| Xuxon | Posted 11/6/2008 12:48:22 PM | message detail |
|
I just realized... Liquid isn't going down with the ASV. Seems a bit odd to me. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/24, Marcello defeated (12 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/6/2008 12:48:54 PM | message detail |
|
From: hailEC | #183 I think he was responding to Charmanders post, actually. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:49:04 PM | message detail |
|
I think the reason more people aren't worried is because Ganon didn't really effect her last round. Frog had Samus as an opponent and went from 27% last year to 33% this year. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 187/272 Today's Match: Mario > Mega Man X |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 11/6/2008 12:50:30 PM | message detail |
|
Frog also hasn't looked like ass this year. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:50:55 PM | message detail |
|
Last year's stats? uhhhhhh Samus and Vincent's 2007 values are close to their other values (ignoring Samus' female bracket value) --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 187/272 Today's Match: Mario > Mega Man X |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:53:58 PM | message detail |
|
Frog also hasn't looked like ass this year. Ganondorf stayed about what was expected with Samus, yet Frog jumped from 35% on Ganondorf to about 45% over the two rounds. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 187/272 Today's Match: Mario > Mega Man X |
| Xuxon | Posted 11/6/2008 12:55:39 PM | message detail |
|
Ganondorf stayed about what was expected with Samus, yet Frog jumped from 35% on Ganondorf to about 45% over the two rounds. Not really indication Samus was hurt, only Ganon. Nevertheless, Vincent looked amazing last round, and that's the main reason I expect the upset. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/24, Marcello defeated (12 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| hailEC | Posted 11/6/2008 12:58:11 PM | message detail |
|
I'm waiting to see how many ZSS pics we get before deciding between a Samus doubling or tripling. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| charmander6000 | Posted 11/6/2008 12:59:36 PM | message detail |
|
Not really indication Samus was hurt, only Ganon. If Samus stayed to about what was expected to Ganondorf and Ganondorf was hurt then therefore... Anyway people aren't giving the power of LFF enough credit. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 187/272 Today's Match: Mario > Mega Man X |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 11/6/2008 12:59:45 PM | message detail |
|
Every pic will be a ZSS pencil pic. --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| Xuxon | Posted 11/6/2008 1:02:28 PM | message detail |
|
I'm not saying Samus wasn't hurt, just that you have a bad argument for it. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/24, Marcello defeated (12 attempts) Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/6/2008 1:08:11 PM | message detail |
|
Samus finished last round with 40.21% vs. 'dorf, Frog, and Nightmare.
Vincent finished with 40.05% vs Falco, Scorpion, and Gordon. Samus' score is higher against IMO better competition, or at least about equal. Even if you want to argue she benefitted from SFF, it's still going to be there this round. I'm fairly confident in Samus>Vincent. I'll give Vinny an outside shot at the upset, say 10%. Hmm, actually scratch all that. I just checked the total votes of each match last round and for some reason Vincent's match had about 8000 more votes, and Vincent's votal is about 2500 higher than Samus'. That gives him a much better shot than i thought! Still though, i think Samus and 'dorf probably hurt Vinny more than he and GFNW hurt Samus. I'm thinking Samus - 33.13% Vincent - 32.84% Ganon - 19.26% GFNW - 14.77% Confidence - 60% --- Proud member of the A1 Steak Sauce Guild |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 11/6/2008 1:11:03 PM | message detail |
|
I'd say Vincent's chances at the upset are picture dependent. The more
ZSS - or sprites - are used, the higher chance he's got - assuming he
gets his best picture shots. Loreal shots will be key !! --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 11/6/2008 1:12:15 PM | message detail |
|
From what I've seen in the pics topic, expect a lot of this - http://img.forumfr.com/arcade/20050602_Vincentbig.jpg --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 11/6/2008 1:12:54 PM | message detail |
|
Basically every year of stats has Mario getting 64% against Luigi. He's
currently getting...67.71%. So yeah, Luigi is holding up pretty well
considering what some people were calling for. As for tonight's match, I wouldn't be surprised if Vincent got 1st. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Chaotic Mind | Posted 11/6/2008 1:16:20 PM | message detail |
|
I think the more ZSS pics used the lower Vincent's chances will be. TJF for the win! >.> <.< --- Proud member of the A1 Steak Sauce Guild |
| ZFS | Posted 11/6/2008 1:29:40 PM | message detail |
|
Great to see Mario outdoing what he did last round. Luigi's doing about
what I expected him to - around 15% and not hindering Mario to the
degree a lot were calling for. Liquid doing a good job here, too. Tomorrow's match shouldn't be too interesting. Think Samus will take an easy first over Vincent. --- http://i33.tinypic.com/2s0xn3o.gif http://i34.tinypic.com/15wdsu0.gif |
