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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 620

Ngamer64 | Posted 11/5/2008 9:10:53 AM | message detail
Erm... Duke Nukem is stronger than Zidane, and Altair is stronger than Wario. And yet against stronger competition, Zack has nearly maintained his percentage from last round. That's the best possible indication that he WAS losing some of his fanbase to Zidane in R2, and is benefiting from his departure today.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/5/2008 9:34:25 AM | message detail
Duke is weaker than Zidane and Wario would kick Altair's ass. I think you're underestimating just how weak this division is. Zack is going to get murdered next round. And this is from someone who has Zack out of this division.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/5/2008 9:56:04 AM | message detail
What's this about Zidane not LFFing Zack? He has around the same proportion against Link today that he had last round, so it seems Zidane and Wario hurt Zack and Link about equally.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/5/2008 9:59:42 AM | message detail
As someone who has Zack in the semifinals... uh he's gonna make the semifinals!!!

...whatever dudes my Snake > Cloud upset is insurance enough to win this thing
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 10:57:33 AM | message detail
We don't have any proof that Duke is stronger then Zidane, and Altair is stronger then Wario. If anything, I'd say Duke mgiht be slightly stronger then Zidane, and Wario is stronger then Altair.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/5/2008 11:19:41 AM | message detail
I think I like Zidane > Duke and Wario > Altair, but it doesn't really matter when Zack has soundly beaten all four of them. Zidane was supposed to have a hardcore fanbase and impressed in R1, but Zack broke him in half. Wario's got all sorts of exposure and has bounced around some of Nintendo's biggest series, but that didn't stop Zack from ~45%. Altair's from one of the best-selling games of recent times and was multi-platform on major consoles while Duke's from one of the most memorable FPS games from the "golden age" of gaming that hit the PC hard and was ported to solid success, but Zack is smashing both of them today.

The only two other respectable contenders in this division (besides Link) are Marth and Shadow. Given what Zack has been doing since his debut, Marth wouldn't have stood a chance of winning. We also thought Shadow would win this division, but after how badly he lost to Zidane and how Zidane was whipped by Zack, Shadow would have still been outclassed -- even if Link did SFF Shadow pretty hard.


Zack's proven himself. Apathetic voters have been caught up with Link; very few apathetic voters would also say "Well, Link's winning, so let's see who else should get my vote." Zack's done well both with and without them, and it's hard to do well in this format with a lot of apathy anyway.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 11:24:15 AM | message detail
Zack's proven himself. Apathetic voters have been caught up with Link; very few apathetic voters would also say "Well, Link's winning, so let's see who else should get my vote." Zack's done well both with and without them, and it's hard to do well in this format with a lot of apathy anyway.

He has proven himself to be a high midcarder, yeah.... but I won't buy that he's elite strength at the level of Tifa and Vincent till I see how he does when he isn't given a bye for 2nd like he has the last 2 matches.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 11/5/2008 11:26:03 AM | message detail
Zack isn't Tifa/Vincent level and I don't think anyone here thinks he is (I hope).
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 11:27:18 AM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #358
Zack isn't Tifa/Vincent level and I don't think anyone here thinks he is (I hope).



I remember seeing a couple people mentioning it last Zack match
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 11:27:35 AM | message detail
Zack nearing the percent he got against Link one on one and Altair is going to need a crazy ASV to make this respectable.

Last round at this time he had 47.33% against Duke, but ended with 49.53%. Right now he has 42.75%. I wonder if he could break 45%.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 11:28:38 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #360
Zack nearing the percent he got against Link one on one and Altair is going to need a crazy ASV to make this respectable.

Last round at this time he had 47.33% against Duke, but ended with 49.53%. Right now he has 42.75%. I wonder if he could break 45%.



Altair seems to be the ultra casual bait. Throw in a character like Link and he folds completly
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 11:34:18 AM | message detail
Just like some people thought Duke was going to be casual bait?

I kid, I kid.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 179/256 Today's Match: Link > Lucario
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 11:35:12 AM | message detail
I'm glad to see the Duke make it to round 3 though, even if it was an easy path
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 11:50:05 AM | message detail
Yup Duke is one of those characters that doesn't get the credit they deserve and are often ignored by the board.

Let's go Crash, Lara Croft, Pac-Man and Duke.

Know your roots.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 179/256 Today's Match: Link > Lucario
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 11:54:25 AM | message detail
Crash? You mean the has-been whose one win is over ULALA? Also, Lara Croft's heyday is long gone.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 11:58:19 AM | message detail
Know your roots.

They deserve much more credit than what the board is giving to them.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 12:13:37 PM | message detail
I was disgusted Lara didn't made the field this year. 128 spots, and even if she's not as popular as she once was, or deserving of the number 1 seed she once had, she is strong enough to make the field over jokes like Lucas and Jade
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 12:17:30 PM | message detail
I was disgusted Lara didn't made the field this year. 128 spots, and even if she's not as popular as she once was, or deserving of the number 1 seed she once had, she is strong enough to make the field over jokes like Lucas and Jade

I agree with that. Also, Yuna, Rikku, and some others got snubbed in favor of the likes of NANA. Knowing this, I can barely keep my head straight.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 12:27:09 PM | message detail
And speaking of Yuna, I wonder why she didn't make her second contest appearance until after Final Fantasy X-2.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/5/2008 12:33:15 PM | message detail
Character cap in 2004.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 12:35:39 PM | message detail
Only 10 characters from each company in 2004.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 12:38:19 PM | message detail
Character cap in 2004.

Oh. Also, it's weird how Guybrush continues making these contests despite stinking up the joint. 2002, he not only lost to Ryo Hazuki, he allowed him to break 70% on him. 2004, Bowser scores over 80% on Guybrush, and Ryo Hazuki gets his ass handed to him by Yoshi in a 75-25 blowout.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 12:43:02 PM | message detail
You have to beat REALLY weak to let Ryo effing Hazuki put 70% up on you.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 12:45:43 PM | message detail
You have to beat REALLY weak to let Ryo effing Hazuki put 70% up on you.

My point exactly. That's nothing short of embarassing. And he returned in 2004 despite stinking up the joint, AND was overseeded to boot.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/5/2008 12:47:26 PM | message detail
Mr Driller for 2009
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 12:59:25 PM | message detail
I'd like to bring back Ms. Pac-Man for all we know she was heavily old schooled SFF by Mega Man.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/5/2008 12:59:44 PM | message detail
The reason why Guybrush keeps coming back is because he's one of the best characters ever.

It's not his fault that 90% of the Gamefaqs voters fight like cows.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 1:00:37 PM | message detail
guybrush is like laharl. he always gets his hardcore fan nominations
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 11/5/2008 1:40:02 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/5/2008 1:46:14 PM | message detail
Btw Link is beating Zack worse than he did last round.

Altair is also gaining percent on Duke and will likely break 44% by the time this is done.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 179/256 Today's Match: Link > Lucario
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/5/2008 1:46:58 PM | message detail
What is Zack getting on Link atm?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/5/2008 1:51:13 PM | message detail
Psh, Sub-Zero's victory over Duke last year was more impressive than Zack's

>_>
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/5/2008 2:04:37 PM | message detail
Yeah, but Duke/Gordon sharing a poll sucks for both of them. Zack doesn't get that same favor that Sub-Zero had.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/5/2008 2:05:50 PM | message detail
I just now saw your ">_>" by the way, so...you probably already knew that.

Whoops.
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/5/2008 2:14:03 PM | message detail
stop making terrible joke pics

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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/5/2008 2:16:35 PM | message detail
Joke/Interesting pics>normal pics

We have plenty of normal pics.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/5/2008 2:47:02 PM | message detail
i'll supply the normal pics guy don't worry
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 2:48:06 PM | message detail
Joke/Interesting pics>normal pics

This. Look at the cosplay pics from 2005 Contest.
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Colt__Cabana | Posted 11/5/2008 2:55:08 PM | message detail
It's always a sad day when Duke is eliminated from the contests.

At least he was able to take out Kefka, Altair and Marth. Good man!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 11/5/2008 2:56:29 PM | message detail
The cosplays weren't actually USED though. CJay just uploaded them so those of us who look at pics ahead of time could have a laugh.

Anyways I'm fine with joke pics. And most they're only going to be seen 1/4 or 1/5 the time, so they won't be having a major effect like they could otherwise. And for two, Kirby looks adorable in a top hat!

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 3:10:09 PM | message detail
The cosplays weren't actually USED though. CJay just uploaded them so those of us who look at pics ahead of time could have a laugh.

I know.
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TestIcicles | Posted 11/5/2008 3:11:45 PM | message detail
exactly... if Kirby got that pic he'd overperform ridiculously. I've never liked Kirby and I want to vote for him there.

CJay just uploaded them so those of us who look at pics ahead of time could have a laugh.

This is why ceej was great.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 3:54:57 PM | message detail
Jade Curtiss
Jade (BG&E)
Tanner
Mr. Driller

Come on! Who ya got?!
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Ness26 | Posted 11/5/2008 3:57:36 PM | message detail
Curtiss > Mr. Driller

>_>
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/5/2008 3:57:48 PM | message detail
save_us.CJC
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/5/2008 3:58:17 PM | message detail
Mr. Driller > Jade (BG&E)
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 3:58:46 PM | message detail
XD at the fourpack of losers I made.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/5/2008 4:11:59 PM | message detail
save_us.Y2J
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/5/2008 4:32:59 PM | message detail
As for Tifa-Peach 2006, I HAVE to ask, where did that Tifa sprite come from???
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/5/2008 4:38:45 PM | message detail
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No Mario/Luigi standoff pics chosen...disappointing.

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