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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:00:11 PM | message detail
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.

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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:00:42 PM | message detail
this was your brilliant idea
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:01:20 PM | message detail
Did I call it brilliant? I should have asked Karma Hunter to give me some words that were TEN TIMES GREATER THAN BRILLIANT.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/3/2008 10:03:39 PM | message detail
man

It's a good thing I'm not allowed to go to sleep today or I'd have some weird nightmares
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:06:18 PM | message detail
If I had a laptop, you could keep me company as I attempt to be the first person in my city to poll-vote.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/3/2008 10:07:21 PM | message detail
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/3/2008 10:10:42 PM | message detail
Kratos better be winning when I wake up in 6 hours to move my car.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/3/2008 10:11:04 PM | message detail
Zack should advance tomorrow, right?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/3/2008 10:11:26 PM | message detail
I seem to remember you hyping Cloud > Link last year

We hype this abortion of an upset EVERY year

speaking of which this is definitely looking like Cloud's best chance since 2k5 but we refuse to discuss it for fear of riding our flotsam off another cliff
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Xcarvenger | Posted 11/3/2008 10:11:53 PM | message detail
how about that 34% update sephiroth
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Lopen | Posted 11/3/2008 10:11:55 PM | message detail
Why are people worried about Zack

Go worry about your pick for Division 6-8.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:12:02 PM | message detail
Who else remembers this

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3004


Brawl's polls after it came out were far less impressive. Besides, FFVII would push 50% in that poll were it in Brawl's place.
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 11/3/2008 10:13:13 PM | message detail
Don't get me wrong, I don't have Link > Snake in the final, I just think it could happen. Snake was looked real strong this year. Then again his "brawl bonus" is negated by Link.

Ultimately, I'm pulling for cynical joking side to prevail in 2nd.
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ZFS | Posted 11/3/2008 10:13:23 PM | message detail
Well I would hope a released game could beat a bunch of games that haven't come out yet

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/3/2008 10:13:25 PM | message detail
More like 75% were it in Brawl's place.

And that was the best 500 post I've seen in forever. GJ Kleenex.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:14:04 PM | message detail
Tomorrows match will definently show some things about Zacks strength, though. If he's able to easily blow out Altair and Duke, he MAY stand a chance in round 4. If its close at all, he's done
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Xcarvenger | Posted 11/3/2008 10:14:26 PM | message detail
speaking of which this is definitely looking like Cloud's best chance since 2k5

didn't we say the same thing last year after the first three round Cloud's blowout? >_>
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/3/2008 10:14:44 PM | message detail
Sssh shut up about the Cloud upset immediately.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:14:49 PM | message detail
So we see Tifa behind Kratos thanks to Sephiroth but she isn't too far behind him either. The question is who has the stronger day vote, Kratos or Tifa?

Also this RE boost seems to have finally died as Jill is in 4th here, although it seems many people here don't even think its Jill in that pic even though it's from Umbrella Chronicles.

Tomorrow's match is likely a runaway as Link and Zack will likely lock 1st and 2nd place respectively. So that will likely be one of the more boring round 3 matches.

The Match after that though will be interesting to say the least as we have the Mario Bros, X and Liquid in the same match. The main prediction is Mario>X as people believe Mario will SFF his little brother into the ground. However we're not sure about 2nd completely since Liquid Snake is there as the only non Nintendo character so he may have a good shot for 2nd.

So while this may seem like going too far ahead, for the Mario, Luigi, Liquid, X match what are your predictions?

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Gaddswell | Posted 11/3/2008 10:15:47 PM | message detail
Kratos has the better day.

Tifa's is like Crono Trigger level. -_-
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:15:49 PM | message detail
So we see Tifa behind Kratos thanks to Sephiroth but she isn't too far behind him either. The question is who has the stronger day vote, Kratos or Tifa?

Kratos gained 3-4% during day last round, and Tifa is better at night
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Xcarvenger | Posted 11/3/2008 10:15:51 PM | message detail
*I mean the exact same thing
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 11/3/2008 10:15:53 PM | message detail
Oh you know what, forget this, I'm gonna lose a lot of points later on here anyway. I've got Cloud > Snake in both the quarter and semi-finals. That isn't going to happen thanks to Squall (assuming he's there) and Sephiroth. Sigh... should've taken more time with the bracket and avoided those errors.

Cloud could overcome the SFF factor from Squall (if he's there) but probably not Sephiroth.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:17:40 PM | message detail
Nah, while Cloud looks like he's closed the gap some since 2006, he's still looked less impressive than Link so far. As for last year, as much as we all wanted it to happen, Link should have been a heavy favorite after he put up 45% on Crono/Vincent/Zero. Cloud's round 4 victory on Samus/MM/Ryu was not nearly impressive enough to match that.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:18:40 PM | message detail
Only Cloud can look unimpressive scoring 53.4% in round 2
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2008 10:20:33 PM | message detail
Yeah, Cloud/Link would probably be closer than 2006, but that's more due to the de-boost than anything. I can't see him winning.

Did you see that steaming pile he failed to break 60% on in round 1?
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/3/2008 10:21:52 PM | message detail
That's 2 for Tifa in a row.

Looks like she'll see the lead for a bit after all!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:23:20 PM | message detail

From: Gaddswell | #027
That's 2 for Tifa in a row.

Looks like she'll see the lead for a bit after all!



She'd need at least 2k overnight lead to stand a chance, though. Kratos has a very good day vote, and like someone said earlier, Tifas is ALMOST as bad as CT, and we saw how that went down with Magus
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:23:47 PM | message detail
Wait.. we don't have ASV tomorrow do we?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2008 10:24:41 PM | message detail
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/3/2008 10:24:50 PM | message detail

HeroicTronBonne (#028)

From: Gaddswell | #027
That's 2 for Tifa in a row.

Looks like she'll see the lead for a bit after all!



She'd need at least 2k overnight lead to stand a chance, though. Kratos has a very good day vote, and like someone said earlier, Tifas is ALMOST as bad as CT, and we saw how that went down with Magus



Yeah, I know that. I was the one who posted the comparison to CT. >_>
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:24:54 PM | message detail
Tifa's probably going to get a fairly large lead overnight. I don't think it will be enough though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2008 10:24:59 PM | message detail
People don't get the day off for Election Day.

I never did anyway.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/3/2008 10:25:26 PM | message detail
Tifas is ALMOST as bad as CT

Isn't Aeris's ASV worse? After all, she lost it to a Chrono Trigger character.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:25:37 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #033
People don't get the day off for Election Day.

I never did anyway.



Most schools do cuz schools are the main voting spots
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2008 10:27:41 PM | message detail
Elementary schools, maybe.
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Lopen | Posted 11/3/2008 10:27:46 PM | message detail
You know what's funny, I just noticed.

Assuming Kratos takes second here (kinda iffy) every divisional final will have one character from each R1 four pack. Pretty decent "seeding" I guess.
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/3/2008 10:29:13 PM | message detail
Liquid / Luigi >_>

Bowser nor Phoenix made it....
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Gaddswell | Posted 11/3/2008 10:31:29 PM | message detail
Whoa, what happened on that update? Kratos just shot up 58 votes.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:31:31 PM | message detail
Kratos erases Tifa's gains in the last 15 minutes with one update.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/3/2008 10:31:33 PM | message detail
haha kratos. all those meager gains were all taken back and more in one update
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:32:24 PM | message detail
tifa denied again
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:33:13 PM | message detail
From: Lopen | #031
You know what's funny, I just noticed.

Assuming Kratos takes second here (kinda iffy) every divisional final will have one character from each R1 four pack. Pretty decent "seeding" I guess.


Bowser/Cain/Geno/Phoenix
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Lopen | Posted 11/3/2008 10:41:40 PM | message detail
Augh. Dammit, true on Bowser.

Blast. Denied.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:42:11 PM | message detail
Still not bad though.

Also Jill just cut Tifa lol.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/3/2008 10:43:26 PM | message detail
That was absolutely delightful.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/3/2008 11:38:17 PM | message detail
At this rate, Tifa's not even going to lead at all.
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Lopen | Posted 11/3/2008 11:40:27 PM | message detail
She's got the whole night. Of course she'll lead.

No longer confident she'll win, though.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 11/4/2008 12:54:55 AM | message detail
I say Tifa only needs seven more updates to take the lead from Kratos.


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Gaddswell | Posted 11/4/2008 1:33:33 AM | message detail
Looks like Kratos doesn't want to give up that lead just yet!
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