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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 618

KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2008 6:57:56 PM | message detail
It makes sense in theory, but has that ever proven to be true? We see a lot of comebacks of attempted comeback in 4-way matches. Looking at 2006, we only saw 2 comebacks.

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RPGuy96 | Posted 11/2/2008 7:01:55 PM | message detail
In each four way match, there are 3 possible comebacks (actually 6 if you want to consider multi-place comebacks). With the same number of matches, we should expect to see 3-6 times the number of comebacks in 4-ways as compared to 1v1s.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 11/2/2008 7:02:31 PM | message detail
4-ways create more opportunities for comebacks though, because you're dealing with more entrants in every match. Plus, 2k5/2k6 were pretty light on nailbiters and comebacks in general. Look at 2k3/2k4 to see better representatives of those.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 7:03:17 PM | message detail
The tighter distribution of votes also creates more opportunities for comebacks.
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Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2008 7:20:22 PM | message detail
Crew sign-ups for Round 3 are up if anyone's interested

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46347596
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Leon/Riku/Dante/Hogger - Bracket: Dante > Riku - Vote: Leon (165/232)
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/2/2008 7:22:03 PM | message detail
For tomorrow's match, Auron will probably need a lead of 2000 votes or more over Sonic before I can feel confident in Auron winning. Auron has to rely on his beastly night vote to build up this lead, because Sonic is a morning vote beast. Sonic still managed to take down Crono's 2000 vote lead easily, but that's because he sucks badly in the BSV and ASV. Auron shouldn't suck as badly as Crono in those two time periods.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2008 7:23:10 PM | message detail
I doubt Sonic comes back from 2000 votes. FFX characters are decent with the day.

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GameZACKS | Posted 11/2/2008 7:23:23 PM | message detail
Auron will win by 5000+ lets do this.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 7:23:39 PM | message detail
Auron's day vote is fine. If he can build a lead of 2000 or more, he'll win easy. Sonic's power is in the morning anyway. He isn't quite as strong in the ASV. He almost got cut by Sandbag a couple of times during the ASV, for cryin' out loud!
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
red sox 777 | Posted 11/2/2008 7:25:03 PM | message detail
Auron killed Crono with the day vote as badly as Sonic did. A lead of 1000 at 3 PM should be very safe, I think. Auron could even give up the lead to Sonic in the morning, take it back with the DSV, and manage to survive the ASV.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 7:26:00 PM | message detail
Auron is definitely strongest at night, but he doesn't really fall off that much during the day.
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Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/2/2008 7:26:04 PM | message detail
whos ready for some auron and sandbag domination
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 11/2/2008 7:26:12 PM | message detail
Sonic managed to take down Crono's 2000 votes easily because Sonic starting almost beating Crono before the BSV even started. It was a foregone conclusion that if Crono was struggling to win updates in the night that he'd get toasted later.

Sonic has a good day vote but it's not like... Master Chief or Sora good. Probably not even in the top 20 of the contest really
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/2/2008 7:26:29 PM | message detail
To be fair, Sandbag is looking to have one of the strongest day votes...ever.

It feels so weird saying that.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 7:27:43 PM | message detail
Sonic Team's day vote used to be better than it is now, honestly. It's still above average, but it's nothing spectacular nowadays.
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
here comes the pain | Posted 11/2/2008 7:41:30 PM | message detail
i sadly got Auron over Sandbag...

If the fluke chance sonic gets elminated and sandbag advances i think i have a pretty good shot at winning a prize this year.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 11/2/2008 7:53:40 PM | message detail
So it seems Dante has first and Leon has 2nd for this match. I wonder what exactly is boosting the RE characters?

As for tomorrow's match i don't know the strength of most of the battlers here so i took a wild guess of Auron>Sandbag seeing as how Sandbag managed to oust Magus.

I don't know of Sonic or Sub-Zero's strength in these contest how strong are they and what are your predictions for this match?
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2008 7:56:06 PM | message detail
Sonic, Auron and Sandbag can place in any position, though IMO it will Sonic and Auron who will place.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:11:13 PM | message detail
Match XLVII: Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Sandbag vs. Auron vs. Sub-Zero

Last Round:

Sonic the Hedgehog – 36.83%
Sandbag – 24.99%
Magus – 24.80%
Commander Shepard – 13.38%

Magus choked big time last round. He let Sandbag get the second largest successful comeback in contest history and they only had about 50% of the votes to work with. However you can’t really say Magus choked that badly, he did score above 40% on Sonic, sure Sonic characters are terrible in this format, but you still can’t take that away from Magus.

Auron – 39.50%
Sub-Zero – 26.88%
Rydia – 17.48%
Marcus Fenix – 16.14%

Auron flexed his muscles here showing that he was what it takes to contend with a weak Sonic. His performance against Sub-Zero puts Auron between the two different performances that Sonic did against him last year. Rydia also surprised the board by having no trouble in defeating one of last year’s contest surprise Marcus Fenix.

Analysis:

Ever since the bracket was released the upset has been talked about, at first it was largely ignored, but now it is one of the most talked about upsets of the round and with Sandbag in the match the upset train has gained even more momentum. Vincent has already broken the noble nine in this format, but can Auron do the same?

Strangely enough Sub-Zero has met both Sonic and Auron before this contest and has easily lost to both of them in the past. With that in mind Sub-Zero will not be advancing in this match. In his contest debut he was able to defeat the heavily favoured Master Chief, but he won’t be able to perform that in this match. Even if this format doesn’t favour Sonic he was still able to defeat Sub-Zero pre-Brawl announcement.

Sandbag could be in the same boat as Sub-Zero, but there is also the possibility that it could pull off an L-Block. While unlike the other joke characters some people probably voted for it because they like the Smash series, but Sandbag will still have the joke character’s base. Still getting only 25% that will likely drop some will not be enough to sneak an upset. Sandbag is going to need some heavy rallying if it wants to sneak into second.

Sonic’s performance last round was neither impressive nor terrible; however Auron’s performance was good enough to be at striking distance. While he didn’t defeat Sub-Zero worse than Sonic did post Brawl announcement I find it hard to believe that he will be at that strength, especially with Sandbag being in the same match. Even if the Smash fans heavily favour a playable character over a non-playable character Sonic will be losing the much needed support he needs to win.

The rankings after Vincent and Squall tend to be fairly hazy, but for the last couple of contests Auron has shown to be at the top of the next group and in this format he could be the next character to defeat a member of the noble nine. Auron has a lot of factors supporting him in this match, format and Sandbag mostly, but I still have faith in the blue hedgehog. However this is one of the best scenarios Auron has at defeating a member of the noble nine.

Unless Sandbag pulls off the upset of the lifetime no matter who wins here, Sonic or Auron they’re both meeting Sephiroth next round and we all know Auron is going to be screwed there like he was against Cloud last year. If Auron wants to look impressive he’ll have to do it this round, but I’m going to be backing my buddy Sonic though.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Sonic > Auron

charmander6000’s Prediction: Sonic – 30.52%, Auron – 28.52%, Sandbag – 22.36%, Sub-Zero – 18.60%

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CrazyAznChick | Posted 11/2/2008 8:11:50 PM | message detail
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Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2008 8:19:08 PM | message detail
Division 8: Round 2 - Match 47 – Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Sandbag vs. Auron vs. Sub-Zero

Moltar’s Analysis

Sonic
Round 1 - 36.83% vs. Sandbag, Magus and Shepard

He’s lucky the poll lasts 24 hours, because man did he look awful early.

Sandbag
Round 1 - 24.99% vs. Sonic, Magus and Shepard

Master Hand would be proud

Auron
Round 1 - 39.50% vs. Sub-Zero, Rydia and Fenix

Auron lookin’ fine in Round 1

Sub-Zero
Round 1 - 26.88% vs. Auron, Rydia and Fenix

Nothing bad, but nothing great from Subby.

Sonic and Subby together again, aww…darn you bracket.

Anyway, before the Contest, someone mentioned the possibility of Auron beating Sonic in Round 2. I liked the idea, but wanted to play around with it for a while more.

Fast forward to Bracket lockdown where my apathy for the contest and the bracket is at an all time high. I’m feeling pretty good about Auron beating Sonic, so I’m planning to make the change. Cue some distraction here. When I remember again, it’s already too late.

I mean my bracket sucks anyway, but I wanted to call some upset right! Anyway, Round 1 performances only amplify my feelings of Auron > Sonic. Auron looked good, Sonic didn’t. Auron has nothing to fight with, Sonic has a bag of sand from smash weighing him down.

The real battle, I believe, is between Sonic and Sandbag for second. Now that Sandbag is in Round 2, it can now benefit from JOKE MOMENTUM. Some of Sonic’s voters can hop on over to Sand, and other voters may now realize the joke.

Still…the gap was pretty wide between Sonic and Sand last round. I think I’ll stick with the hedgehog and then facepalm when jokeFAQs proves me wrong.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Sonic > Auron

Moltar’s Prediction is: Auron: 32% - Sonic: 28% - Sandbag: 24% - Sub-Zero: 16%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Another big match. Before the round 1 match this might have been a three-way fight for first place, but with Sandbag only barely slipping by Magus - and being a good distance from Sonic - I don't think too many people are expecting the 'Bag to advance today. This narrows it down to Sonic and Auron. I imagine Auron > Sonic will be the consensus choice, with Sonic Team not performing too well in this format and Sonic letting Magus stay as close as he did. I still like Sonic to pull one out here, though.

Sonic may be the bottom rung of the Noble Nine in this format, but he's not going to lose to just anybody. Granted, Auron isn't just 'anybody,' and may actually be NN-esque when it comes to four-ways. Looking at last round, they did about the same against some comparable competition. Auron did a bit better, but I'd give Sonic's pack the edge in terms of strength. There is the argument that Sandbag would hurt Sonic because of Brawl, but I'm skeptical of that. Sandbag is very much a 'joke' character, and Sonic doesn't even get a hint of his strength from Brawl. They share a game, but that's about it. Not expecting anything there.
But it wouldn't surprised me if we see something weird from Sandbag. You never know what you're going to get with these joke characters, though they have been surprisingly predictable this year. I think he'll end up doing a little worse than he did last round, which isn't bad considering the competition here is a lot better. Don't think he's gonna have it in him to advance out of this pack, unless he's up around 30% and Sonic really sucks it up.
Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2008 8:19:22 PM | message detail
As far as Auron goes, he's got a great opportunity to pull off the upset. He's got nothing to worry about as far as fanbase splits go - he's the lone Square, and RPG, character here. There's really on excuse for him not to win. He had a great round 1, he was beastly last year (nearly topping Ryu for second with Cloud in the poll), and he's up against the weakest of the Noble Nine. Still don't think he'll quite pull it off, though, but it'll be close.

Prediction: Sonic - 30% ; Auron - 28% ; Sandbag - 24% ; Sub-Zero - 18%
Vote: da bag



Yoblazer’s Analysis

Huh... I don't feel nearly as excited about this match now that I'm sure it will spell final doom for my bracket. Regardless, I've got a job to do, so let's take a look at this sucker. While this battle between Sonic, Sandbag, Auron, and Sub-Zero will almost certainly NOT see a joke character move on, the battle for first place could be a heated one, and it could result in the earliest ever defeat for a Noble 9er.

Before we delve into these four as individuals, let's analyze them as teams (Team Smash vs. Team Badass). In Round 1, Team Smash put up a combined 61.82% on Magus and Commander Shepard. Team Badass put up 66.38% on Marcus Fenix and Rydia. Which performance is more impressive? No one can say for sure, but I'd side with Team Badass. They put up an additional 4.5%, and while Magus is clearly the strongest of the four losers, Commander Shepard is likely the weakest. In this match, I expect the teams to split percentage relatively evenly. While I might be tempted to give Team Badass a smidgen more loving based on their first round performance, I think Sandbag's possible static base (as a joke character) coupled with Scorpion/Sub-Zero's propensity to do poorly against tough competition will make this one dead even. Thus, I've decided to give each team a combined 50% of the vote.

...and that's about enough to ensure Auron wins first place. Yes, I'm serious. Assuming the two teams do split the vote evenly, I simply can not envision Sonic winning. Consider that, in the first round, both Sonic and Auron beat their runner-ups with an identical 59.5%. Now, if Sandbag demonstrates the ability to stay somewhat static, and if Sub-Zero flubs like he and Scorpion have done over the past two contests, what does that mean? It means, unless you expect Sandbag to remain static at AURON'S expense, that Sonic's percentage will go down while Auron's will go up. Essentially, this is all just a fancy way of
saying that Auron will take advantage of Sandbag's possible static base, the Sonic/Sandbag fanbase split, and Sub-Zero's likelihood to botch, and he'll ride all this to a victory. In fact, I don't even expect it to be that close, especially when Auron is rocking such an insanely cool picture.

Now, as many of you know, I have Sandbag in my bracket, and I think it's fitting I give the little guy a proper burial by giving him the last paragraph. I knew Sandbag was a huge risk, but his opening performance simply fell short. To have any sort of realistic shot here, he needed to cruise past Magus easily. Instead, he needed (likely) rallying and an epic Magus collapse just to be here. He would need to maintain a 100% static base to have a shot, and that's assuming he and Sonic only grab 50% of the vote. After the other two big joke characters, L-Block and Weighted Companion Cube, both donated valuable percentage points between rounds, I see nothing but darkness for the little bag. Au revoir, silent soldier.

Sonic the Hedgehog - 28%
Sandbag - 22%
Auron - 32%
Sub-Zero - 18%
Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2008 8:20:26 PM | message detail
Lopen’s Analysis

Okay so... this match here... I think the competition is just too stiff for the Sandbag to work its way out. Now, Sub-Zero as we all know is a professional puncher, and should be able to Using the Bag For its Purpose Factor (UBFPF) the bag into negative percentages. Now, of course, Sub-Zero will be left with LUBFPF and that will unfortunately allow Auron and Sonic to advance.

... okay uh... seriously... I do think the bag is going to lose here. Yes, I know... my spiel is to preach the death of joke characters and it VERY RARELY HAPPENS but on this day I am confident. To me, last round, the bag showed trends that resemble a legitimate character. Also, its "static percentage" was very low, even assuming it is static. What was it, 23%? Very doable for Sonic and Auron. Sub-Zero isn't going to be slinging around enough percent to stop them.

So then the question remains who wins between Sonic and Auron? Well, the way I see it, the blasted bag is going to hurt Sonic more than Auron. Also... Auron probably looked better than Sonic last round. I mean come on Magus was all up in his grill for a while. You don't let Magus cut you and expect to beat Auron. Sub-Zero, if he damages anyone, probably damages Sonic more too, being old school and all that. Basically, this is Auron's match to win here, all factors seem in his favor going in, and he was a potential NN Breaker in the first place. Yeah, brief, I know.

Lopen's prediction:
Auron - 33.12%
Sonic - 32.45%
Sub-Zero - 20.86%
Sandbag - -2.03% (UBFPF suck it down punk. Seriously though last place believe.)



Ngamer’s Analysis

Well, that was another entertaining match. Really awesome for those first few hours, but I'm surprised Leon wasn't able to use his GameCube (and now Wii as well) fanbase to stick closer with the Day vote. But eh, that's alright, the important thing is how much he improved on last year's showing, which should be enough to prove that was mostly just him looking goofy in the match pic. He won't have that problem in R3 thanks to our B8 artists taking the reigns, and there seems to be some real kind of REFAQs thing going on as well, but... heck, even so I'm not seeing any way for him to catch up to Pika or the Chief. That's alright; I chalk this up as a strong season for him regardless.

And now for maybe the most-discussed matchup of the round! Let's throw a couple hundred more words at it, shall we?

X-Stats from Round One:
Sonic - 39.10% (based on Shepard = Marcus)
Sandbag - 31.61% (based on Shephard = Marcus)
Auron - 35.92% (based on '07 Marcus)
Sub-Zero - 29.09% (based on '07 Marcus)

What terrible numbers! I guess I didn't want to base anything off that horrible showing by Magus last year, but it's clear Sonic and the Sandman should be way lower. Likewise you can't make a very good case for '08 Marcus... he was just not nearly the same character who surprised us a year ago, for some reason. With a fixed set you would surely see Auron entering the fray as a distinct favorite, I would think.
Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2008 8:21:03 PM | message detail
Let's start with ol' Sandy eyes. He appeared to have confirmed himself as the one joke character who was going to perform like a joke about an hour into his match- the early joke push had been there to an extent, but Magus was soon killing him, and it got especially nasty once the NPH was over. But wow, what an ASV he came up with! Fortunately for our sanity, I can't see anything like that taking place again in this one... Sonic will be there to help limit his morning, and then both Auron and Sub-Zero are guys with respectable strength all through the day; a Magus-like collapse from either would be just unheard of. Since he'll be against three guys with pretty unique fanbases, all of whom look great in the pic (while he's got about the most bland image imaginable), I can't see the Bag maintaining his joke base as well as WCC did the other day- a slip from 25 to around 22 or 21 should be more likely.

The bad new for Subby: even a Bag weakened that far will probably be too much for him to deal with. Yeah, the blue ninja held up well directly on Auron in R1, but I figure much of that is his ability soak of casual votes like a sponge, much like his partner in ninjadom, Hayabusa. Now that Sega fans and Smash fans have somewhere else to go with their votes, he probably loses a bit of ground versus Auron's more steadfast base, and as a result I have trouble seeing him stay out of the basement here.

Which of course means that the real battle should be Auron versus Sonic- and I think it's going to be a true slugfest! On the one hand Sonic is pretty obviously the character with the greater natural strength. On the other, his whole Team has been just dreadful in this format two years running, New Square has been consistently solid and seems to have improved somewhat for '08, and worst of all, he's going to be splitting much of his newfound Smash support with that bag of sand over there. Perhaps I should be more cautious... after all, Squall looked all-world in R1 as well, and that didn't stop him from getting brought way back down in earth a few days ago. But come on, Smilin' Squall versus Winkin' Auron- there's just no comparison! Plus there no option remotely like Sora in this bunch for those on-the-fence Square supporters.


Auron - 29.39%
Sonic the Hedgehog - 29.21%
Sandbag - 22.03%
Sub-Zero - 19.38%

That looks... just fine!

Ngamer Says: Auron > Sonic



Guest’s Analysis - Zylo the wolf

Oh yeah I can do this because I want to, but everyone will laugh at me because I have no idea what to predict here. Um.... Sub-Zero will obviously finish last, because the stupid bag gets a lot of stupid support. But both Sonic and Auron is way more than what it can handle so it will also lose.

So it then comes up between who takes first Sonic or Auron. Sonic did ok in round 1, not to bad but not to good either. He got 39% in round 1 last year and this year he had tougher opponents, plus the bag could've hurt him, but if it did then it will hurt him tomorrow as well. Auron on the other hand did about the same as Sonic did on similar opponents in round 1 last year. So I guess Auron is pretty even with prebrawl Sonic.

But the most important thing of all is that it's possible that Rydia LFF'D Auron last round, and since the Sandbag can steal Brawl support from Sonic, I have to say that Auron looks like the small favourite between the two. Tomorrow's match should be close, but maybe it's my fanboyism but I think Sonic will win. Both Vincent and Squall were close to beat Sonic but they didn't, and while Auron has always looked good he has never looked as good as Vincent and Squall.

Prediction: Sonic 34% > Auron 31% > Sandbag 20% Sub-Zero 15%.

But as long as Sonic advance I'm happy, since it's not like any of the other characters that can upset him have looked any good. Ah nice to see that SFF will once agian stop Auron :D


Crew Consensus: Auron beats Sonic
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/2/2008 8:21:57 PM | message detail
So that makes it official then. Sonic > Auron.

Next match please.
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:26:40 PM | message detail
taking the upset are we charmander

As always.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 163/232 Today's Match: Dante > Riku
LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 8:51:30 PM | message detail
Anyway, before the Contest, someone mentioned the possibility of Auron beating Sonic in Round 2.

I don't know if I was the first proponent, but I did mention it early on after the bracket was released.
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Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
GameZACKS | Posted 11/2/2008 8:52:15 PM | message detail
Mentioned the possibility? It's in my bracket, baby.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/2/2008 8:52:24 PM | message detail
c'mon sandbag board vote
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 11/2/2008 8:53:45 PM | message detail
One thing's for sure, we'll finally have a reasonable gauge on how far Sonic has fallen in 2 years, since Auron has always been pretty consistent in terms of strength.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 8:54:00 PM | message detail
Aw yeah another Auron > Sonic bracketeer!

Too bad I'm already eliminated from the Guru!
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Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/2/2008 8:54:34 PM | message detail
*Readies Aurons theme*
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/2/2008 8:55:15 PM | message detail
Auron received a pretty nice boost after KH2 actually. (It was really the result of him not being underrated anymore due to him being underrated through Samus... but either way his numbers went up.)

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 8:55:33 PM | message detail
*plays Bowser's boss theme from Mario Galaxy*

...What? It's stinkin' awesome!
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Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
Master Moltar | Posted 11/2/2008 8:56:24 PM | message detail
augh i SHOULD'VE had this upset in my bracket

(man if sonic pulls this off i'm going to feel really weird)
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Sonic/Sandbag/Auron/Sub-Zero - Bracket: Sonic > Auron - Vote: Auron (169/240)
XxSoulxX | Posted 11/2/2008 8:56:58 PM | message detail
Another year, another Sonic match where he is definitely going to get upset, another Sonic win.

Glad to see not all traditions have died.
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ZFS | Posted 11/2/2008 8:57:08 PM | message detail
Time for Sonic

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GameZACKS | Posted 11/2/2008 8:57:10 PM | message detail
If Sonic pulls this off it'll be the most disappointing match of the contest for me. I know my bracket's not going anywhere, but I'd really like to have nailed this one. Plus Sonic sucks and Auron is awesome etc. etc.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 8:57:24 PM | message detail
Why is it that Sonic is always the one who has to face the potential Noble Nine breakers anyway? The guy gets no luck with bracket placement.
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Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%)
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/2/2008 8:57:45 PM | message detail
even if Sonic somehow makes it through here

he won't beat the game fuel
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:58:23 PM | message detail
Sandbag is dead, so I may as well cheer for the result I want.

Impale that damn rat thing, Auron. He stopped being cool when Bart Simpson did.
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GameZACKS | Posted 11/2/2008 8:58:35 PM | message detail
Other people get faced with potential N9 breakers... you just realize it more when it's against Sonic or MM because they actually have a chance at losing. Bowser had Snake, Vincent had Crono... sure there's been others, but that just pops into mind.

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Lopen | Posted 11/2/2008 8:58:38 PM | message detail
So, I guess I want Sonic to win... but my vote is going to whoever needs the help in distancing themselves from Sandbag most.

Die die die die die kill kill DEATH TO BAGS OF SAND.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 8:58:53 PM | message detail
If Game Fuel makes it that far, he'll get SUPER SONIC'D
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 11/2/2008 8:59:14 PM | message detail
What game fuel? The same game fuel who was a huge dud in round 1?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/2/2008 8:59:19 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #244
If Game Fuel makes it that far, he'll get SUPER SONIC'D



Watch Halo 4 get announced the day before

then Sonic will be dead

Believe
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/2/2008 8:59:22 PM | message detail
Why is it that Sonic is always the one who has to face the potential Noble Nine breakers anyway? The guy gets no luck with bracket placement.

Yup, him and pre-2k6 Snake got no favours in bracket placement, Mega Man on the other hand...
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XxSoulxX | Posted 11/2/2008 9:00:02 PM | message detail
Other people get faced with potential N9 breakers... you just realize it more when it's against Sonic or MM because they actually have a chance at losing. Bowser had Snake, Vincent had Crono... sure there's been others, but that just pops into mind.

Sonic had a lot more then all of them. Combined, maybe? Sonic usually has about 2 per contest.
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YoAriel33 | Posted 11/2/2008 9:00:14 PM | message detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 33.33%

2
Sandbag 33.33%

2
Auron 33.33%

2
Sub-Zero 0%

0
TOTAL VOTES 6

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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/2/2008 9:00:19 PM | message detail
Sonic the Hedgehog 36.36%

4
Sandbag 18.18%

2
Auron 36.36%

4
Sub-Zero 9.09%

1
TOTAL VOTES 11
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