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charmander6000 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:30:37 AM | message detail
The best Chief is doing now is stalling Kirby.

I think at one point I had Kirby > Chief in this round too. My reasoning? Kirby is the odd-ball of the group.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 159/224 Today's Match: Master Chief > Kirby
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:30:43 AM | message detail

red sox 777 (#049)
Hmm, Kirby is 2000 votes up, but Chief has finally managed to start stalling him. Looking at MC/DK, this was also around the time Chief stalled DK, and he began coming back fast with another couple of hours. DK even had a similar lead to Kirby, and lost by 1500. Of course, Kirby is no DK (or at least I hope not). MC nonetheless has a chance at coming back here, but he needs to start cutting soon.



Was this a weekday or weekend match?
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:31:16 AM | message detail
It was a summer match, so it followed weekend patterns. But it was with start time of 3 AM.
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CP724 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:31:54 AM | message detail
MC's still got a shot at this.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:32:43 AM | message detail
MC needs more Game Fuel! -runs to the 7-11 to get him some-
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:34:20 AM | message detail
and the kirby stuffers are out there in full force now
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:34:50 AM | message detail
Hmm, Kirby is 2000 votes up, but Chief has finally managed to start stalling him. Looking at MC/DK, this was also around the time Chief stalled DK, and he began coming back fast with another couple of hours. DK even had a similar lead to Kirby, and lost by 1500. Of course, Kirby is no DK (or at least I hope not). MC nonetheless has a chance at coming back here, but he needs to start cutting soon.

DK's voting trends are different than other Nintendo characters; he seems to be stonger in the night than most Nintendo characters and weaker in the day than most Nintendo characters.

Was this a weekday or weekend match?

It was on a Sunday.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 159/224 Today's Match: Master Chief > Kirby
HaRRicH | Posted 11/1/2008 8:35:11 AM | message detail
Looks like I've missed a lot of discussion! Anybody care to inform me of what's been happening guys? I've only noticed two things quickly: the change in format for the next round and no Snake-Kirby!

golden opportunity sb
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:35:52 AM | message detail

HaRRicH (#058)
Looks like I've missed a lot of discussion! Anybody care to inform me of what's been happening guys? I've only noticed two things quickly: the change in format for the next round and no Snake-Kirby!

golden opportunity sb



Chief sucking and Boss leading him most of the night, but the 800 vote lead evaporated in an hour and a half once the kids woke up
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:36:25 AM | message detail
Hmm....Kirby has 52.80% on MC now, while DK had 53.24% at the same time and ended at 49.21%. No idea really what the change in start times did these characters' day votes.
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red sox 777 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:38:27 AM | message detail
Yeah, I wouldn't expect Kirby to collapse like DK. MC doesn't really need a DK-esque collapse though, because he won that match by 1500 votes. Kirby should be the favorite, but this isn't quite over yet.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:38:43 AM | message detail
i like how kirby went from 190 or so votes an update to 230 when Chief started to cut him a bit.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/1/2008 8:40:50 AM | message detail
For what it's worth, I think DK pretty epically fails from the ASV on in all of his matches -- I remember Sam Fisher started gaining big percentage on him in 2k4. I don't think Kirby's that bad, not to mention the time-change that probably smoothed things out a bit with trends today.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:41:32 AM | message detail

HaRRicH (#063)
For what it's worth, I think DK pretty epically fails from the ASV on in all of his matches -- I remember Sam Fisher started gaining big percentage on him in 2k4. I don't think Kirby's that bad, not to mention the time-change that probably smoothed things out a bit with trends today.



And Sam Fisher dominated asv against Raiden... Sam Fisher wasn't too bad with asv due to being a popular Xbox character
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/1/2008 8:41:40 AM | message detail
Also, BT, I've issued a new bet in our account-bet topic (though it's simply a sig-bet). I expect you to reply to it.
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/1/2008 8:42:44 AM | message detail
Fair enough, but I don't think of Raiden exactly as great in the ASV either.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 8:44:03 AM | message detail
Unless Kirby stops his crazy gains right now, I'd say its over though
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 8:59:11 AM | message detail
Dante and Leon are still out of the puffball's league these days - the Kirbster needs them to hurt each other.

Dante may be, but I'm not so sure Leon is. I don't know what Leon gets directly on Dante these days though, so who knows?

but Dante>MC looks likely even with Leon there.

Kirby's beating MC outright now, and he'll still beat him outright next year. If Dante and Leon are both there, Kirby will have the same advantage he has here: He will stand out like crazy in the match pic, and he'll be pure Nintendo (though I imagine Leon does get a great deal of help from the Nintendo base. Didn't seem to have much effect in the Bowser match though). If Leon hurts Dante, the best he can do is second place.

Unless Kirby stops his crazy gains right now, I'd say its over though

Yes, because MC has gained...-153 votes since he took the lead from Big Boss. CRAZY GAINS!
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charmander6000 | Posted 11/1/2008 8:59:45 AM | message detail
Yeah, I wouldn't expect Kirby to collapse like DK. MC doesn't really need a DK-esque collapse though, because he won that match by 1500 votes. Kirby should be the favorite, but this isn't quite over yet.

Being down 2000 votes and winning by 1500 is not equal to being down 3400 votes and winning by 100. It's a different ballgame if you're winning by a lot than when you are winning by a little. The momentum of the match is different which is why we usually only talk about comebacks instead of vote swings (Cloud had the biggest vote swing against CATS in 2003, but if Cloud was down 90k by the time he started to comeback he probably wouldn't comeback and barely beat CATS)
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Character Battle 2008: Points 159/224 Today's Match: Master Chief > Kirby
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:01:02 AM | message detail
Pretty obvious Kirby is stuffing though. you don't go from 190-200 gains to 230 for no reason
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:04:24 AM | message detail
Oh, and DK is a horrible day vote character. Don't compare him to Kirby. He doesn't gain anything from the day vote at all. If anything, he loses ground. The day vote was where he lost it against Vercetti in 2003. He did slightly worse in the day this year than at night (though he was awful all around).

Also, we can compare Kirby to DK last year because they were in the same match in round 2. With the day vote, Kirby gained around .7% while DK lost about .3% with it. Kirby gained as much percentage with the day vote as Kratos did (though it was harder to Kratos to go up than Kirby, granted). And DK still managed to go DOWN with the day vote despite the fact that L-Block plummeted come day time last year.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:05:49 AM | message detail
Pretty obvious Kirby is stuffing though. you don't go from 190-200 gains to 230 for no reason

Sorry, but MC's updates are just as erratic. As a matter of fact, Kirby, MC, and Big Boss are getting updates all over the place.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:08:36 AM | message detail
seems kirby stuffers got bored

ok chief lets do this
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:11:14 AM | message detail
Nah, I think the Chief stuffers decided to get busy. From 191 to 227 vote updates? OBVIOUS STUFFING!
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ffmasterjose | Posted 11/1/2008 9:11:26 AM | message detail
It's high noon, Chief's coming for your pink circular ass Kirby!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:12:45 AM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#074)
Nah, I think the Chief stuffers decided to get busy. From 191 to 227 vote updates? OBVIOUS STUFFING!



This is time that Chief goes up. Kirby had no reason to go up around noon, aka stuffing
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:17:52 AM | message detail
Yeah, because Kirby's not a day character. Oh wait, he is. As a matter of fact, he was better at THIS time than he was later on in the match.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:19:02 AM | message detail
comeback activated, 5 straight cuts

lets do this CHIEF! -chugs gamefuel-
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BDawg | Posted 11/1/2008 9:19:07 AM | message detail
The only reason Kirby needs to go up is the fact there are two MGS characters in this poll. It isn't like Chief hasn't benefited, he went from getting crushed to stalling Kirby.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 11/1/2008 9:19:26 AM | message detail
The comeback begins!

16 votes an update needed!

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linkhatesganon | Posted 11/1/2008 9:21:06 AM | message detail
xDDDD Kirby stuffers.

Also, Kirby should be the only "kiddie" option next round with three more "mature" character. And RE boost or no, I don't think Leon wins 1 vs 1 against Kirby. Kirby > Dante next round? I think there was LFF last year yes, but I think the key factor was the RE2 pic. Leon always gets the RE4 pic so maybe someone didn't know him in that pic.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:24:07 AM | message detail
Aw yeah, Kirby rallying
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:24:16 AM | message detail
kirby stuffers are back from lunch
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:29:40 AM | message detail
Kirby had 199 votes, then 230, then 195

nothing fishy bout that
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:34:02 AM | message detail
Looks like the Chief stuffers decided to take a break!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:34:33 AM | message detail
I'm not denying Chief may have stuffers too >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:35:07 AM | message detail
Note that Kirby still won that last hour by 40 votes. Chief will have to pick up the pace!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:36:56 AM | message detail
-hands out game fuel to all the chief stuffers-


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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/1/2008 9:40:54 AM | message detail
Aww yeah at MC getting "Kirb-stomped"
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linkhatesganon | Posted 11/1/2008 9:41:56 AM | message detail
There's only one update that you could be right about Kirby stuffing, and that was at night
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:43:02 AM | message detail
every close match has stuffers, lhg. just depends on who gets the most stuffed votes if its significant or not
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:44:00 AM | message detail
Yep, this one's over! Next!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/1/2008 9:44:06 AM | message detail
Albion why are you on Masa's account?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:44:24 AM | message detail

ExThaNemesis (#093)
Albion why are you on Masa's account?



ive had this account for like a month
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 11/1/2008 9:47:22 AM | message detail
why
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HaRRicH | Posted 11/1/2008 9:47:48 AM | message detail
...why do we still talk about vote-stuffing/rallying like we do in what feels like almost every match nowadays? I mean, seriously.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 11/1/2008 9:48:43 AM | message detail
Kirby's only 3 votes off of his peak lead now. Not too bad!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:49:42 AM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#097)
Kirby's only 3 votes off of his peak lead now. Not too bad!



his peak lead was 2212... so hes 23 off
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jhuertad88 | Posted 11/1/2008 9:50:50 AM | message detail
daaaaaaaaaaamn, bboss kicked kirbys ass last round, and now he looses cause he shares votes with master damn chief.... big boss, naked snake, jack, whatever... he is even better than solid snake... he deserves to win!!
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 11/1/2008 9:56:16 AM | message detail
Don't forget Sora cut 1500 votes on a tougher opponent, and MCs day vote is comparable to Sora
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