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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 615
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 7:50:00 AM | message detail |
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If there is indeed SFF for mewtwo from cloud, he's done next round --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/31/2008 7:51:30 AM | message detail |
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You know...I could see Cloud breaking 50% next round. --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| MadGamer_11 | Posted 10/31/2008 7:53:24 AM | message detail |
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Cloud>Sora BOOK'D --- "To be forgotten is worse than death"-Freya FFIX Super Smash Bros Brawl Code: 2105 8311 6321 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 7:55:02 AM | message detail |
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I should also note I'm not particularly interested in how Mewtwo
compares to Lucario since comparisons to Pikachu are more interesting
and Lucario bombed. Still, yes, you're right in that Mewtwo's not doing
too bad compared to one of the biggest contest duds we've had this year. Just for the record, MM1/2/9 has in fact helped Mega Man some. I mean, look at Zero. How the mighty have fallen. Mega man's at least conistent, perhaps having boosted a little. We'll see next round how he holds up to a potential split with Zero. Mega Man still let Tidus get ~3.2% more on him this year than in 2004, WCC is hard to judge by, and we know know Nero (and thus Banjo/Olimar especially) are pretty bad fodder. Zero doesn't look terribly hot himself, but he was still able to beat Vivi after his impressive showing against Solid and Zidane's upset in R1. I'll cut Zero a break until further notice, but Mega Man should be doing better with his most classic games on the VC and a new game being multi-platform and cheap. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/31/2008 7:55:05 AM | message detail |
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I agree with that if something is affecting Mewtwo it would Cloud in
this match, still it's very surprising to see Mewtwo do so bad. So I
guess Cloud > Sora is the favourite next round? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 151/216 Today's Match: Cloud > Mewtwo |
| edwardsdv | Posted 10/31/2008 7:58:04 AM | message detail |
| Next round hed be getting SFF, but not nearly as much SFF as say Squall, let alone Sora. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:00:33 AM | message detail |
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If Cloud is affecting Mewtwo, it should be noted that Mewtwo will still
tremendously stand out next round. He'll be the sole Nintendo option
(for the first time in his contest career) and have a distinct sprite
every fan will know him by. Cloud may affect him, but when it comes to
a four-way SFF match, I think Mewtwo will stand up too much to let it
hurt him like this round. Still, Sora and Squall are much stronger before SFF, so...it'll be interesting to watch. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/31/2008 8:02:25 AM | message detail |
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Just looked at the poll today, and lol Mewtwo. This is the force people have been talking about for years? Barely keeping his head above the Floppy McFlop Flop Midna? --- ~FFDragon. (at Work !!) The Cream of Resident Evil Fanboyism. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:02:55 AM | message detail |
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I think Cloud is playing a part of Mewtwo's strength here. Cloud is
THE icon for RPGs and Pokemon is Nintendo's FF...I can see a little bit
of SFF hurting Mewtwo logically as well as after comparing Midna to
Ness. If Cloud is SFFing Mewtwo, then there's still hope for Squall (and Sora, too, I guess)! I don't see how you go from getting 69.55% on Ness to 51.31% on Midna or 37.49% on Pac-Man in R1 to 45.16% on Pac-Man in R2. Well, the difference may be that Mewtwo SFF'd Ness, but Midna is LFFing him. Whoo, technical terms! and we know know Nero (and thus Banjo/Olimar especially) are pretty bad fodder. Nero doesn't look to be BAD fodder. He looks to be around the level of Tails, which at worst, is high fodder and at best, low midcarder. Nero and Vergil could probably be considered equals at this point. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/31/2008 8:04:22 AM | message detail |
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Just for the record, MM1/2/9 has in fact helped Mega Man some. I
mean, look at Zero. How the mighty have fallen. Mega man's at least
conistent, perhaps having boosted a little. We'll see next round how he
holds up to a potential split with Zero. insert stock response here --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/31/2008 8:04:36 AM | message detail |
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Net change over the last 2 hours: +3 votes for Mewtwo ...well then. --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 8:05:30 AM | message detail |
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People can argue why Mewtwo is doing so bad all they want, but everyone needs to agree he's flopping. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/31/2008 8:05:30 AM | message detail |
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I've been keeping track of the percent of each character since I woke
up (7am) and in four hours the morning vote went to, in terms of
percent increase. Pac-Man > Cloud > Midna > Mewtwo Pac-Man gained 0.45% on Cloud, 1.34% on Midna and 1.56% on Mewtwo Cloud gained 0.48% on Midna and 0.65% on Mewtwo Midna gained 0.23% on Mewtwo Let's go Pac-Man ASV! Unlikely though since he is more of a morning character than an after school character --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 151/216 Today's Match: Cloud > Mewtwo |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:06:00 AM | message detail |
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Meh, thought Mega beat him worse than that. My bad. Still not
particularly good, and Banjo/Olimar are pretty awful in the stats. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/31/2008 8:06:59 AM | message detail |
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Just wait until Nuts and Bolts comes out, Banjo'll be a solid midcarder! --- ...I'm still War13104! "and seriously, white flags, god damnit. v.v" - ExThaNemesis, 11:44 PM EST, 1/28/07 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 8:08:30 AM | message detail |
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midna just cut 70 votes in the last 3 updates.. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:08:45 AM | message detail |
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Could the Turd of the Round be a Pokemon for two rounds in a row? We'll see! Also, after Mewtwo gets the lead above 400 for the first time, Midna makes three big cuts to knock it down to 329. I can't believe Mewtwo hasn't been able to pull away at all. Looks like this will come down to the trick-or-treaters after all! NGamer = Genius --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| BDawg | Posted 10/31/2008 8:09:15 AM | message detail |
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It's hard for me to believe Cloud/Mewtwo SFF. Well at least any more
overlap than what any two random games could have. I just attribute
this to Midna holding up better than anyone thought and maybe a bit of
folding in the face of Cloud's huge strength. --- Should I start running now? |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/31/2008 8:09:58 AM | message detail |
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Mewtwo might be getting hurt by Cloud. But he's also being hurt by
Midna and Pac-Man. And let's be frank-Cloud is going to squash Squall,
and leave Sora at... Half-strength? What he does to Mewtwo will be nothing compared to that. The real question here is Sora, how FF-dependent he really is, and whether or not he'll hurt Mewtwo. Should be fun to see. Also, next match. Kirby>Master Chief? Kirby>Big Boss? Master Chief>Kirby? Big Boss>Kirby? Endless possibilities. lol Raiden. --- Free of lilih related Tyranny since 18/10/08. Mother 3. That is all. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:10:44 AM | message detail |
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Yeah, tomorrow should be the match of the round. Hopefully, it won't be
over in five minutes, and we'll have a threeway race for first! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:12:33 AM | message detail |
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He's flopping, yeah, but it's not necessarily his fault. If Cloud was
in Travis Touchdown's spot last round, I imagine it would look a lot
like this (except Ness would probably lose by a bit more than Midna is
right now; I imagine there are enough hardcore LoZ:TP fans to keep
Midna > Ness in such a situation though I think Ness >= Midna). --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| BDawg | Posted 10/31/2008 8:15:01 AM | message detail |
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I'm impressed they've managed to stem Cloud's usual rise to the heavens in percentage, even if it's only temporary. --- Should I start running now? |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/31/2008 8:15:36 AM | message detail |
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It looks like Mewtwo's an apathy vote guy like Duke, Altair, and the Buster Sword then. --- Free of lilih related Tyranny since 18/10/08. Mother 3. That is all. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:17:56 AM | message detail |
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though I think Ness >= Midna I wouldn't take Ness over any Nintendo character who's not bad fodder at this point. The guy's proven he can't take it. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/31/2008 8:21:22 AM | message detail |
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What's NGamer's Halloween thing? I tried going through the last two topics and I couldn't find it. --- "The right to be God. That right is now mine"--Albert Wesker |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:22:32 AM | message detail |
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Mewtwo's (and Pokemon's) ASV will be hindered due to the kiddies being out trick-or-treating! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2008 8:22:38 AM | message detail |
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It's basically just the ASV with a playful mention on how it may or may
not be affected by the kids going trick-or-treating instead. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/31/2008 8:22:51 AM | message detail |
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So... Ness beats... Lucas and Olimar? Maybe Tom Nook? Yeah. --- Free of lilih related Tyranny since 18/10/08. Mother 3. That is all. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:24:01 AM | message detail |
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At the same time, despite today, I don't think Midna is high on the
Nintendo totem pole herself. I think if CF can obliterate Diddy Kong,
I'll give Ness the credit to simply beat Midna or be roughly equal.
That shouldn't be a lot... ...though I now realize Pikachu's faced CF and Mewtwo's faced Ness. There is bound to be something statistical to come from this. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:24:20 AM | message detail |
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So the age-old question(s): Ness vs. Wario, Wario vs. Peach, Peach vs. Ness? Go! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:25:19 AM | message detail |
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though I now realize Pikachu's faced CF and Mewtwo's faced Ness. There is bound to be something statistical to come from this. Yeah, that means Captain Falcon beats Ness unless you think Mewtwo clobbers Pikachu. Ike > Ness, too. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 8:25:19 AM | message detail |
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I think the Halloween factor could come into play if this is close at asv --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:25:20 AM | message detail |
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...then again, Midna's beating Pac-Man while Ness couldn't. Dammit. Whatever, Midna wins, but I would think one-on-one they would have a good match. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:26:07 AM | message detail |
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Whoa, Pac-Man almost beat Mewtwo there! Lead under 300! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:26:58 AM | message detail |
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Peach >= Wario > Ness All my past arguments are frivolous. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/31/2008 8:29:57 AM | message detail |
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Oh, and it's nothing personal, HaRR. I just think it's fun to mess with
the big Ness proponent after Ness continues to prove to be not much at
all, especially against decent Nintendo competition! Plus, it's vengeance for Jak in 2004! Curse you, Nesssssssss! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: 1st place, 38857 votes (30.47%) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/31/2008 8:35:29 AM | message detail |
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You don't go from nearly beating Bowser (hindered by Toad) and crushing
Pac-Man and Ness to barely being equal to Midna and Pac-Man and not
think anything is fishy. it's "obv" that mewtwo is a stealth square character folding to sff from cloud (or that cloud is stealing mewtwo casual vote and splitting the nintendo vote with midna) Still...I definitely don't like his chances for R4 now...go Sora? --- Moltar Status: augh Cloud/Midna/Mewtwo/Pac-Man - Bracket: Cloud > Mewtwo - Vote: Mewtwo (153/216) |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/31/2008 8:36:10 AM | message detail |
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I don't think Halloween will have that large of an extent: A) Kids young enough to go trick or treating tend to vote earlier in the morning anyway. Look at how Mario characters/Smash characters do with both the Morning and ASVs. B) Most of the ASV probably comes from high school age kids and older, people who would not be trick or treating. C) Wouldn't the kids just simply vote before they went out trick or treating or after they got back? --- "The right to be God. That right is now mine"--Albert Wesker |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:37:08 AM | message detail |
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Haha, no offense taken, but I said R1 this year would make or break my
continued faith in Ness...and he broke it in style. I just always took
up for the guy until now. It's weird how much I defended him
considering I don't like EB much and only really enjoyed him in SSB. So, Mewtwo VS Scorpion, who you got? Mewtwo doubled Ness who equaled Scorpion in 2k4 while beating Pac-Man in R1 worse than Scorpion did in 2k2, plus Scorpion doesn't look so hot this year...but Midna was beaten handily by Scorpion twice last year and Mewtwo's having a hard time putting Midna away. Assuming it's one-on-one (or a legit four-way if you like), who would you take between Mewtwo and Scorpion? --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 8:40:28 AM | message detail |
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Still...I definitely don't like his chances for R4 now...go Sora? If mewtwo even advances here --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:43:47 AM | message detail |
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If Midna advances instead, one may like her chances just as much as
Mewtwo's. Less overlap and more likely to get a
distinct/clear/recognizable picture...though Midna's probably not
naturally as strong as Mewtwo, that wouldn't matter next round since
Mewtwo still wouldn't be his normal self if he isn't normal right now. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| CP724 | Posted 10/31/2008 8:47:56 AM | message detail |
| I doubt Sora gets SFFd that badly by Cloud. He seems to stand up to it very well, although Cloud is a different thing entirely, I think he will hold up extremely well. I don't think he'll get doubled by Cloud. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 8:50:04 AM | message detail |
| Yeah, I don't seriously understand why everyone
thinks sora will fold to Cloud. He's from a different game, he's not
Squall. And Squall barely effected him, and squall is an elite... so
why would Cloud all of a sudden SFF him to hell? Squall actually would
share more of a fanbase with Sora, too --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| CP724 | Posted 10/31/2008 8:50:16 AM | message detail |
| *don't think he'll even get doubled by Cloud |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/31/2008 8:50:26 AM | message detail |
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Hes from a different series I mean --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 8:57:48 AM | message detail |
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Can anybody make a comparison of Square-characters who are
significantly in two or more games compared to others just
significantly in one, specifically in cases of SFF? I doubt we have
many examples, but it certainly seems like Zack, Sora, Squall, and
Cloud have excelled so far. Are there others? I know Yuna improved a
lot after FFX-2, though she's snubbed this year and didn't really get a
chance to face another Square character... ...anyway, I'm just getting at this: I wonder how much Cloud can hurt Sora and Squall (plus how much Sora/Squall will hurt each other) in a poll with potential for four-way SFF. They have all established themselves in multiple games whereas I think Mewtwo is established solely through R/B/Y and the anime. In that regard, Squall could hold up better this year than 2k4 since KH2 came out, which would also help Sora stand up to Cloud (on top of having KH:CoM on a completely different platform helping separate both of them from Cloud, though that will mean very little in comparison). They may not be as bad off in shape, though Square-LFF is inevitable. Still, unless Ness/Midna are LFF'ing Mewtwo really bad and the sprites help him out, that may actually be enough to let Sora or Squall advance. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| CP724 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:01:22 AM | message detail |
| Cloud is going to SFF Squall into the ground most likely, and Sora won't be affected much at all by comparison. I would expect Cloud to have as much overlap with Sora as he would with Crono. |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/31/2008 9:14:33 AM | message detail |
| Eh...I dunno. I know it was 2003, but Aeris still
doubled Sora. KH2 and KH:CoM has done a lot for Sora since then, but I
remain skeptical of Cloud not affecting Sora. I also realize Sora beat
Aeris last year, but I suspect Sora beat Aeris as bad as he did due to
Squall; remove him, and it should have been decently closer between
them...and Cloud would kill Aeris in a match (there's a joke in here
somewhere...!), so Sora isn't out of this situation alive yet. Doesn't help Sora's case that KH pretty much started as fan-service for FF-fans and Cloud/Sephiroth were two huge selling points (though I think they only had small roles...correct me if I'm wrong). Cloud can hurt Sora a lot. I don't know if it'll be enough for Squall to slip by since he'll be hurt a lot too though. --- BT about Round Two: If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now. www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3285 |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/31/2008 9:15:27 AM | message detail |
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Hmm, kinda thought Midna would take the lead overnight here. Guess not.
Wonder how close this stays once the ASV hits. Cloud's going to be
eating up most of the votes here, so who knows. --- CB7 Score: 156/216 http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w333/usagiaruku/1224857053726.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/31/2008 9:16:36 AM | message detail |
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That fatass Cloud. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
