GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 615
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 2:31:51 PM | message detail |
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Watch out for the MEWTWO EXPRESS. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~ http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:33:02 PM | message detail |
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~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~ http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/30/2008 2:35:24 PM | message detail |
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Oh Zack wouldn't get 30% on Link directly....he's stronger than that. Zack > Zelda or Snake > Link confirmed I can live with either --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 2:36:10 PM | message detail |
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There's a reason Squall doesn't smile. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:36:14 PM | message detail |
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people are getting a little too excited about zack beating chumps like wario and zidane --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| voltch | Posted 10/30/2008 2:36:38 PM | message detail |
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How did sora get this strong,has KHIII been released while i was sleeping? --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:37:19 PM | message detail |
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voltch (#006) He's always been around the 20th strongest character level since kh2 --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/30/2008 2:37:51 PM | message detail |
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Squall finally realized that he needed to embrace the LIGHT instead of the darkness. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| ZFS | Posted 10/30/2008 2:39:27 PM | message detail |
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Oh Zack wouldn't get 30% on Link directly....he's stronger than that. well then --- http://i34.tinypic.com/eff04y.gif |
| voltch | Posted 10/30/2008 2:39:58 PM | message detail |
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for a guy expected to place third,Sora's been going against expectations,he's an unpredictable guy,kinda like MC. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/30/2008 2:40:29 PM | message detail |
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No Nintendo/Square overlap? No. It's happened before. Namely Roxas and Luigi. The numbers add up to Roxas' votes going more to Luigi/Bowser than either Liquid or Phoenix. If anything, one would expect there to be a KH/MGS overlap more so than KH/Nintendo. This is evidently untrue. And then there's the matter of their audiences, voting patterns, etc.... There shouldn't be ANY doubt here. --- Free of lilih related Tyranny since 18/10/08. Mother 3. That is all. |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:40:38 PM | message detail |
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voltch (#010) After Squall decimated Yoshi round 1, and Squall looked damn good in round 1, I'd say that Squall > Sora was the favorite. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 2:41:18 PM | message detail |
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No. It's happened before. Namely Roxas and Luigi. Get this outta here. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:41:20 PM | message detail |
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*and sora looked damn good in round 1 --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/30/2008 2:41:43 PM | message detail |
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I almost wish I'd stuck with my Link > Zack in the quarterfinals
upset. Even if it's not that likely to happen, it would be much more
fun to root for than Link > Mario. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 2:41:58 PM | message detail |
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The lightning has struck the fan. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/30/2008 2:42:13 PM | message detail |
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No Nintendo/Square overlap? No. It's happened before. Namely Roxas and Luigi. The numbers add up to Roxas' votes going more to Luigi/Bowser than either Liquid or Phoenix. If anything, one would expect there to be a KH/MGS overlap more so than KH/Nintendo. This is evidently untrue. And then there's the matter of their audiences, voting patterns, etc.... There shouldn't be ANY doubt here. Light- *gets shot* --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| ZFS | Posted 10/30/2008 2:42:37 PM | message detail |
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It's happened before. Namely Roxas and Luigi. what is going on here --- http://i34.tinypic.com/eff04y.gif |
| voltch | Posted 10/30/2008 2:43:00 PM | message detail |
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come to think of it Sora vs MC would be a pretty fun match graph
wise,slow voting and once the day hits the match's votals increase at
record pace. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:43:05 PM | message detail |
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red sox 777 (#015) We've seen NOTHING from Zack to make us think he can stand up with the big boys. Wario, Jade, Cecil and Zidane are all chumps he beat. Next round when he'll beat Altair and Duke, they're chumps. We won't know how strong he actually is till he faces MMX and Mario. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/30/2008 2:43:26 PM | message detail |
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The KH ASV never ceases to impress me. Sora's hacked 500 votes off Squall's lead and increasing. --- Smurf. The cream of Sonic Fanboyism you're like some devious internet fiend- Majin |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/30/2008 2:43:38 PM | message detail |
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I almost wish I'd stuck with my Link > Zack in the quarterfinals
upset. Even if it's not that likely to happen, it would be much more
fun to root for than Link > Mario. I have Zack moving on in the quarterfinals AND Snake > Cloud in the semifinals. Why do I feel like this is the best bracket I've ever made >_< --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Lightning Strikes | Posted 10/30/2008 2:43:53 PM | message detail |
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No place for facts in the CSD. Ugh. --- Free of lilih related Tyranny since 18/10/08. Mother 3. That is all. |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/30/2008 2:44:17 PM | message detail |
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No, but Zack > double LFF'd Mario was my first instinct, so from my
perspective, we've yet to see anything to show he isn't that strong. --- Crono's quest to kick L-Block out of this contest: Round 3: Crono vs. L-Block vs. Pikachu vs. Alucard |
| voltch | Posted 10/30/2008 2:44:27 PM | message detail |
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the match against mario MM/WCC? will mean nothing,Vincent may have been
SFF'd by sephiroth but when he up against the big guns he folded. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:45:11 PM | message detail |
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red sox 777 (#024) We've seen that a FF7 side character may be strong enough to get the votes out of apathy from weak characters. But face him against real competition, and I feel he will fold. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| ZFS | Posted 10/30/2008 2:45:30 PM | message detail |
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Zack for second in the quarterfinals I don't see happening. He did well in round 2, but not that well. --- http://i34.tinypic.com/eff04y.gif |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/30/2008 2:47:09 PM | message detail |
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Like for example, put Zack in Soras spot today. He would be sff'd to
hell by Squall and likely end up last. He isn't as strong as his weak
path is showing him to be. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/aero/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 2:47:11 PM | message detail |
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I wonder if all Riku needs is a smiling Leon picture. I also wonder if such a thing exists... --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 2:59:51 PM | message detail |
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Honestly, probably all Riku needs is a RE2 Leon picture. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 3:06:25 PM | message detail |
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Speaking of that match, it's going to be our annual 25 hour match, thanks to daylight savings time! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 3:07:51 PM | message detail |
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And Sephiroth/Tifa/Kratos/Jill will be the match that gets completely ignored. Poor Jill... can she ever really win? --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/30/2008 3:08:10 PM | message detail |
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zack > mario lets do this --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 3:10:46 PM | message detail |
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And Sephiroth/Tifa/Kratos/Jill will be the match that gets completely ignored. Unless Tifa/Kratos turns out to be a barnburner. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/30/2008 3:19:20 PM | message detail |
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Riku better pray Leon doesn't get http://gaygamer.net/images/CherylAustin/normal_Leon_1.jpg --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 3:19:54 PM | message detail |
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oh god no, that's like 70% of Riku's fanbase --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Xiivi | Posted 10/30/2008 3:20:46 PM | message detail |
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Why am I surprised that there is such a site as gaygamer.net? I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 3:23:18 PM | message detail |
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Argh. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/30/2008 3:25:04 PM | message detail |
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revel in it --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 3:56:12 PM | message detail |
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Sora has just blasted through 47% on Squall. Is 47.5% within reach?! --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| BDawg | Posted 10/30/2008 4:03:13 PM | message detail |
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At least Fox gets to bow out of a contest without getting humiliated for like the first time ever. --- Should I start running now? |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/30/2008 4:03:22 PM | message detail |
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Who cares go go Leon's abs. --- ~War~ The Cream of Transexual Ex Girlfriend Fanboyism ~War~ |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/30/2008 4:05:12 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-44.jpg --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/30/2008 4:06:09 PM | message detail |
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....what the hell that pic is weird. --- ~War~ The Cream of Transexual Ex Girlfriend Fanboyism ~War~ |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 4:07:42 PM | message detail |
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Is that Cloud's Dissidia art? Overperformance confirmed! Mewtwo looks like...something. Midna scares me, and Pac-Man's name gets in the way too much. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/30/2008 4:07:59 PM | message detail |
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I don't know what to say about the pic. It's just... wow. Cloud: lawlz Dissida art Midna: woah face Mewtwo: Sloppy cutting job. Pac-Man: Looks good, but why is he eating his name? --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/30/2008 4:08:04 PM | message detail |
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Cloud doesn't look very familiar. I'd say it's time for an UNDERPERFORMANCE, but only Pac-Man looks decent. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/30/2008 4:09:08 PM | message detail |
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Cloud looks fine. You can see the sloppy hair and even a trace of the Buster Sword! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 2: Sora, Fox McCloud, Yoshi |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/30/2008 4:09:32 PM | message detail |
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http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/mewtwo.png I wish Bacon would lighten up on the whole concept of "face pics." Pics of just the face suck. A nice mid-shot is nice, but close-ups? Blarg. So much wasted opportunity... --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/30/2008 4:09:43 PM | message detail |
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Cloud is like "aaaw I won't break 50% in this match ;_;" --- Today's prediction: Squall 34.74% - Sora 24.81% - Yoshi 24.71% - Fox McCloud 15.74% Status: Decent |
