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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2008 7:19:14 PM | message detail
break 60%

Ahem

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2075

Also, 3 years ago different format Zelda is strong WOOOOO

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2008 7:23:41 PM | message detail
I'm okay with Vivi being a general midcarder, but I don't feel comfortable pushing Zero and Hayabusa far past that level.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/28/2008 7:25:19 PM | message detail
I thought Zelda broke 60% in that match.

Zelda has never been "that" strong, she's a low near elite/high mid-carder, but she's no Ganondorf.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2008 7:26:44 PM | message detail
Closer than you think. Just look at this year: Zelda gets 20% against Mario/X/Kip, Ganondorf gets 24% against Samus/Frog/Nightmare.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 7:33:25 PM | message detail
something i've always wondered

Why do people consider Ryu a casual character? his game is about as hardcore as it comes, with it being so difficult only hardcore games can beat it
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 10/28/2008 7:36:51 PM | message detail
something i've always wondered

Why do people consider Ryu a casual character? his game is about as hardcore as it comes, with it being so difficult only hardcore games can beat it


Good question. Maybe because most Xbox characters are seen as "casual," so he was just kinda thrown in the group? >_>

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 7:40:10 PM | message detail
Hes hardly only an Xbox character though. He's from the NES days, just Xbox is his current home
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Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/28/2008 7:44:47 PM | message detail
He's a badass ninja.

BANF.

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Score: 134/200 Today's Pick: Solid Snake > Zero
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/28/2008 7:52:28 PM | message detail
Casual implies mainstream appeal. Characters from popular games.

Hardcore is basically any character with a vocal, but small fanbase. Very niche games.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 7:54:16 PM | message detail
I'd say Ryu is still hardcore, its not like his games sell as much as the normal Xbox casual characters. I don't think either Ninja Gaiden hit 1 million sales
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 7:55:20 PM | message detail
No data for original Ninja Gaiden on VGCharts, but Ninja Gaiden 2 only sold 760k in the world: http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7709&region=All

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/28/2008 7:59:49 PM | message detail
I wouldn't consider Ryu casual, except for any benefit he gets from looking cool.
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/28/2008 8:04:14 PM | message detail
VGChartz is wrong, both NG's sold over 1 million.

http://kotaku.com/5043341/ninja-gaiden-ii-one-million-served
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/28/2008 8:06:18 PM | message detail
Ninja Gaiden sold around 2 million if you include Sigma actually.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/28/2008 8:18:25 PM | message detail
Division 5: Round 2 - Match 42 – Ryu Hayabusa vs. Zero vs. Solid Snake vs. Vivi Ornitier

Moltar’s Analysis

Ryu H.
Round 1 - 36.53% vs. Zero, Pit and King Dedede

So now the guy is beating Zero? Dude just keeps getting stronger.

Zero
Round 1 - 35.44% vs. Ryu H., Pit and King Dedede

Doing the Mega Man series no favors here.

Snake
Round 1 - 51.60% vs. Vivi, Wesker and Sackboy

See Snake win that day vote? yeahhhhhhhhh baby

Vivi
Round 1 - 25.96% vs. Snake, Wesker and Sackboy

The Black Mage holds up well against Snake.

At first, everyone was like “Snake > Zero good day gents”, but now…well things have changed a bit for this match. One thing that hasn’t changed is that Snake will still take first by a wide margin. He looked fine in Round 1, although most people expected more because he has had Brawl and MGS4.

The battle for second is hot though. Ryu beat Zero in Round 1, but remember what happened to Ryu last year in Round 2 when Snake was put in the poll? He died and lost to Riku, who he defeated with ease the round before. I think the same thing will happen here, where Ryu’s support will get swallowed up by Snake more so than the others. Therefore, he takes last.

As for Zero, last round it can be argued that Dedede and Pit hurt his chances at beating Ryu. Considering Zero only lost by a percent, that could very well be the case. He also should not suffer as much as Ryu with Snake here. He’ll hold up fairly well with that old-school Nintendo vote.

Vivi has a great shot to take second, but something about his R1 performance worries me. Yes, he held up very well against a (potentially) boosted Snake, and he does stand out well against the three other “badasses”, but I’m not feeling good about the mage.

I have a feeling this is another Vincent/Falco/Gordon/Scorpion situation. Vivi over performed last round due to weak competition and Snake underperforming a bit. Vivi also stands out in the match like Falco did, but I don’t think it will help much. The Mage should capitalize off Ryu’s suffering though, so I don’t see him taking last.

Anyway, the match should go something like last year’s Round 2 match with Snake and Ryu went, with Zero edging out Vivi.

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Snake > Zero

Moltar’s Prediction is: Snake: 37% - Zero: 23% - Vivi: 21% - Ryu H.: 19%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Time for some Snake redemption.

After Snake looked suprisingly 'normal' last round, I'm expecting him to shine like much of the Noble Nine have this round. For whatever reason, most of them have looked better this round against tougher competition. Snake's got a much tougher pack this time, but he should still be able to put up some big numbers - at the least, he should out do Mega Man's 36% performance today, although if he doesn't there's not much need to sound the alarms for next round, with this group being much stronger than Cube/Tidus/(lol) Nero.

This match is all about second place, though. Any of the three here could end up stealing second. Most would have considered Zero an easy choice pre-contest, but after losing to Hayabusa last round and Vivi putting up some great numbers, it's up in the air what happens. If anyone's going to be hurt in this match, it'll probably be Hayabusa. There's not a big connection between the two, but when it comes to vying for that 'badass' vote, you're always gonna lose it if you're up against Snake.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/28/2008 8:18:38 PM | message detail
That leaves Vivi and Zero - tough choice. Zero's been the stronger of the two for years, but he hasn't looked all that impressive as of late. When it comes to competing in the low-20s, I think Vivi's the better choice of the two. He managed to put up those numbers with Tidus hanging around in the poll, only barely losing to Pikachu last year. I don't doubt Zero has the dedicated fanbase he needs, but once again, I can't put too much trust in Mega Man to do well - all things from the series seems to disappoint whenever it gets the chance.

That said, with how much stronger Zero has shown to be than Vivi, I wouldn't be surprised if Zero wins here - and he should be considered the favorite. But Vivi's impressive first round, his ability to net low 20s and bracket bias (woo) makes me take him here. We'll see how it goes. Besides this match is all about Snake putting on up some big numberz !

Prediction: Solid Snake - 40% ; Vivi - 22% ; Zero - 20% ; Ryu H - 18%
Vote: Snake



Yoblazer’s Analysis

What was once a relatively safe second round match has been flip-turned upside down by even more first round hijinks! As such, this match between Ryu Hayabusa, Zero, Solid Snake, and Vivi is much more interesting, and Zero's path into Round 3 is equally more perilous.

Let's start this examination with the only guy who matters. For Snake, this Round 2 encounter is strangely similar to the one he had last year. He fought the same Ryu H., a different NewSquare character (Riku) instead of Vivi, and a different badass (Nightmare) instead of Zero. Fortunately for our boy, he rocked that trio for nearly 48% last year. Unfortunately for him, there are some big reasons why he shouldn't do nearly as well this year. Zero may have lost a step, but he's still far ahead of Nightmare. Hayabusa is probably a bit stronger (Ninja Gaiden II), and Vivi is probably stronger than Riku (judging by their performances against Leon Kennedy). These factors, coupled with Snake's rather dark and dreary picture, will drill into his percentage. I think 40% is a good mark for him here.

In Round 1, Ryu Hayabusa shocked the world... sorta. He went into his opening match as an underdog against Zero, but he managed to come out on top. Granted, he won by less than one percent, but a surprising win is a surprising win. Thus, some people think that Ryu H. might be able to contend today on the heels of his impressive performance. I disagree. Last year, Ryu kicked ass in Round 1 only to succumb to Snake's badass SFF powers and lose in Round 2. I expect the same result this time around. It can easily be argued that Zero was more hampered by their first round competition (cartoony style, Nintendo affiliation), and that was just enough to let Ryu sneak through for the victory. Couple this with the opinion that Snake should hurt Hayabusa more (once again, similar design and appeal), and I think Zero will turn the tables. In fact, I expect to see him beat Ryu more comfortably than most people are assuming.

However, it's not Hayabusa who is Zero's main competition this round, but Vivi. The black mage didn't turn any heads against Snake in their last match, barely avoiding a doubling. However, he could very well be on the plus end of a favorable fanbase split. Snake, Zero, Hayabusa. What's the main thing these guys all have in common? They're action hero badasses! As the only RPG guy, Square guy, and non-badass in the field, Vivi definitely stands out, and he could ride Snake's domination over the two lesser badasses to a second place finish.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/28/2008 8:19:26 PM | message detail
Truth be told, I actually did consider Vivi a slight favorite...before seeing the match picture. Vivi looks alright, there's no problem with his own picture. The problem for the mage is Snake's picture. It isn't even necessarily that bad (hell, I like it), but it's very dark and features Old Snake, thereby making Zero's bright, vibrant picture stand out even more. Even though Snake should still blast Hayabusa, I think he may have a bit more trouble reaching Zero with such a huge picture contrast, although Vivi will still likely benefit from the split. It's Zero's intrinsic strength advantage versus Vivi's possible fanbase split advantage, and it's more a coin flip than ever. Like Alucard/Pikachu, when it's a coin flip, I may as well go with my bracket and the guy I prefer.

Ryu Hayabusa - 17%
Zero - 22%
Solid Snake - 40%
Vivi Ornitier - 21%



Lopen’s Analysis

I have a feeling Vivi will be the favorite in this one. I don't really support it, though. Take it from someone who took Ryu H > Zero in his bracket last round: Zero can lose to Hayabusa and still have a good chance to advance here. Ryu Hayabusa thrives from there being no vote sponge. I mean, he beat Riku and Roxas COMBINED and choked it away from Snake. I'm thinkin he'll be in the running for last here. Vivi in just as bad a position because Zero and Ryu H >> Sackboy and Wesker, and he only got 25% last round.

Now, I'm not sure how many of the Vivi pickers will go for him based on Vivi or based on Zero. I'm just shooting down the idea that Zero has no chance in this match due to losing to Hayabusa. Now, Vivi did okay last round... though really, in Vivi's position I think Zero could've done at least as well. I mean, look at the people in that match weren't Snake. Fodder with sunglasses and fodder (whose game hasn't even come out yet) in a bag. I'd be surprised if Zero couldn't hit 30% there pretty easily. Look at how well he did last year against Crono/Raiden/HK-47, a pack that's probably tougher. Sure, Snake > Crono, but Raiden and HK >> Sackboy and Wesker.

Or maybe Vivi isn't the favorite and I'm just preachin to the choir here.

Lopen's prediction:
Solid Snake – 35.73%
Zero – 27.04%
Ryu Hayabusa – 18.85%
Vivi – 18.54%




Transience’s Analysis

today's match should be a good one - like the Freeman match, it's three dudes with differing chances to win. Snake's clearly got first, so I'll just do some pros and cons for each character:

Vivi:

+ already held up well against Snake
+ fan-favourite type role that should thrive in this environment
- didn't really have much competition as the only other non-Snake option
- Zidane did pretty much awful in round 2 - sure, Zack was there, but it eliminates any talk of a weird "FF9 boost".

Ryu Hayabusa:

+ looked GREAT in round 1, edging Zero when he got doubled a few years back
+ 360 site-shift + Ninja Gaiden 2 makes him the most relevant of the three, especially considering Zero and Vivi are fading hard
- has a weird tendency to look great in round 1 and falter against really strong competition (see: Riku last year)
- his recency may hurt him in that he doesn't have the throwback appeal that Zero and Vivi do; Snake is *the* character of the last couple of years, so I can see him being hurt by Snake more than anyone else.

Zero:

+ the most important point is his biggest strength: he's the most unique of the four with his SNES roots
+ should have a strong fanbase loyalty
- Mega Man's been dying lately, and Zero isn't unaffected
- say what you will about Hayabusa, a former top 15 character losing to him is flat-out embarrassing
- Black Turtle

Ryu's gonna choke
Vivi? shares the Playstation
Zero's the best pick

transience's prediction:

Snake - 39.01%
Zero - 21.22%
Ryu Hayabusa - 20.22%
Vivi - 19.55%
Master Moltar | Posted 10/28/2008 8:19:42 PM | message detail
Ngamer’s Analysis

Well shoot, this match was a bit of a dud. WCC's going to lose about 2.5% off R1, but he's still doing a much better job of keeping a static fanbase than I gave him credit for, which is... troubling, to say the least. On the plus side, next up is the sprite round- surely the Cube will look awful there while MM will as always be going in with a major advantage. On top of that, we'll probably be seeing Solid *(&% which ought to allow MM to stick closer to a 50/50 with Snake than normally, further hurting the Cube's chances. The one fly in the ointment would be if Zero advanced to that match alongside MM and held him back enough to put WCC back in contention. Luckily Ryu H easily outlasted Zero back in R1, and we have no reason to bel- *looks back at the last time Snake ran into Ryu H* Oh crap!

Time to discuss what could possibly turn into the greatest fatal threeway in Contest history!


X-Stats from Round One
Snake - 44.98% (based on Wesker '07)
Vivi - 30.11% (based on Wesker '07)
Ryu H - 27.52% (based on Pit '07)
Zero - 27.10% (based on Pit '07)

Yes Vivi looked great, but I get the feeling that was largely anti-favoriteFAQs at work, in the same way that so many jumped off Vincent in favor of Falco back in R1. As with Vincent's match, I don't see that trend holding here for R2.

As I alluded to earlier, the last time Snake and Ryu went head to head, Solid came out of the match with 48% while Ryu couldn't even manage 19%. That was back when their competition was Riku and Nighmare; sub those two out for the stronger Zero and Vivi and Snake's percent is sure to come down, as will Ryu's... right? Well on the one hand the 360 has seemingly asserted itself and turned Ninja Gaiden into a better threat, especially with the ASV. But on the other, Snake figures to perform better than back in '07 himself, especially when drawing full MGS4 appeal with this picture, so shouldn't he more or less retain that ratio on Ryu? Not sure, but I've decided not to put much faith in the final result from round one and will be picking Hayabusa for a close last place in this one.

Zero's a bit of an odd duck. Sure he hemorrhaged up votes all through the Day and kind of embarrassed himself by giving Ryu the win, but how much of that underperformance needs to be tied back to the two Nintendo/Brawl characters who may have been holding him back? And if Ryu gets held back again by whatever killed him against Snake last time (badass SFF?), is Zero going to be immune? You'd think he'd have a larger hardcore fanbase than Ryu, since it would make sense for Hayabusa getting much of his appeal from looking like an awesome ninja. All things considered I like Zero to outlast the ninja this time around. But will it be enough for second? That all depends on...

Vivi! So cool to see him not wasted in this bracket, and sporting full-on Black Mage Factor in this pic, which is undoubtedly his biggest advantage. The more Snake dominates this match, the better Vivi's chances get I would think, as the Final Fantasy fanbase is probably the most dedicated of the three. He should also most likely do the best job of avoiding this "badass SFF" if that's really going to be a factor, as that's where Zero gets much of his appeal within the MM fanbase. All that considered... eh, I still don't feel good about backing him. Yes, he ought to have an excellent chance, but I keep coming back to that Falco result and others like it that we've seen in R2- just have this gut feeling that the bubble is going to burst against tough cookies like Ryu and Zero.

So in the end I'll say Snake with a good sized win (nothing like that '07 domination though) and then Zero just barely over Vivi just barely over Ryu. But I don't do so with much confidence! Let's stir the pot and find some numbers...

Solid Snake - 38.20%
Zero - 21.11%
Vivi Ornitier - 20.68%
Ryu Hayabusa - 20.01%

That looks... like a heck of a match!
Master Moltar | Posted 10/28/2008 8:20:37 PM | message detail
Ngamer Says: Snake > Zero



Guest’s Analysis - Leonhart

Ryu Hayabusa

In my opinion, Ryu Hayabusa pulled off one of the bigger surprises of the first round. He used a big day vote to come back and beat a guy who beat him 63/37 just three years ago in Zero. Can he impress again and move into the third round for the first time ever? Remember that the ninja was lookin’ good going into this round last year, having gotten more percentage than Riku and Roxas combined, and…he still lost somehow. Hayabusa is going to be the least established character in the poll, but none of his competitors for second place are far above him. He’s got a shot, at least, even if he’s not the favorite. Hayabusa only got 19% on Snake last year, and that probably won’t be enough here. He’ll have to get some more from somewhere to advance here.

Zero

My, how the mighty have fallen! From 48% on Sonic in 2003 and equal with Snake in 2004 to losing to a guy he beat with 63% back in 2005. That’s where Zero is now. He has no excuses for losing that match. Some people are blaming DeDeDe and Pit hindering him a bit, but I don’t buy it. Some people said Zero was being SFF’d by Mario in 2005, but he’s proven that performance was legit. I don’t think he’s as susceptible to Nintendo SFF as some have thought (I’m really starting to think Mega Man’s either an exception or a fluke). Still, Zero’s not out of it. We’ve seen several characters lose close ones in round one and then somehow blow out the same guy the next round. It’s not like Vivi is a powerhouse either, so Zero can redeem himself a bit here. Will he do it? (Kinda hopin’ he doesn’t so BT can’t weasel out of that account bet next round! Nothin’ personal, Zero!)

Solid Snake

Solid Snake didn’t look quite so solid last round, but then again, no one in the Noble Nine really did last round, and they’re lookin’ better overall this round. Perhaps Snake can rebound, though he’s got a tough fourpack. Sure, none of these guys are anywhere close to his league, but they’re three solid midcarders. Snake’s got a chance to impress greatly if he can blow this fourpack away. Zero and Hayabusa are big time casual bait, and Snake is the ultimate casual bait. He could use that to his advantage. I’d say 43-45% is a good mark of where Snake needs to get in order to look like he can actually hang with the likes of Samus and Mario like many of us think he can.

Vivi Orunitia

…Or however you want to spell his last name. Vivi looked really good last round, blowing Wesker and Sackboy out of the water and avoiding the doubling from Snake. That alone should be enough to grant him the favorite status here for second place. Of course, there’s a recurring issue that we’ve seen pop up from time to time, something I like to call the OFPF (Obvious First Place Factor). Some people think that a second place character can overperform and look better than they really are because, if first place is an obvious winner, some people might throw their votes elsewhere. We’ve seen something similar to that happen to Nightmare twice, might’ve happened to Sub-Zero against Sonic last year in round 1, seemed like it just happened to Falco recently, and chances are good it’s happening to Nero right now (writing this before that match starts)! I don’t want to damper your hopes, Vivi fans, ‘cause I’m rootin’ for the little guy, too. Just don’t be surprised if he blows this one somehow. After all, he got beaten handily by Leon Kennedy twice last year (who looks to be a step above Hayabusa and Zero at this point, but still), barely beat Tidus, and lost cleanly to Pikachu. Would you pick Zero or Hayabusa to do that?

Snake Over Hayabusa
Comes Again Here
Tired Old Act

Ryu Hayabusa – 16.90%
Zero – 19.20%
Solid Snake – 44.44%
Vivi Orunitia – 19.46%



Crew Consensus: We still believe in Zero! Snake > Zero is the majority, but Snake > Vivi has two supporters.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 8:27:50 PM | message detail
I have this feeling that Vivi is gonna stink it up and Zero is gonna own
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2008 8:37:15 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3270
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2908
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2886

Vivi outdid Riku pretty easily against Leon and Riku beat Hayabusa last year with Solid and Nightmare. With NG2 (and Nightmare being gone...?), expect Hayabusa to do better than last year...but Vivi should still do better than Riku last year, too. Hayabusa/Vivi should be close, and it's on Zero from there.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2008 8:46:08 PM | message detail
I’d say 43-45% is a good mark of where Snake needs to get in order to look like he can actually hang with the likes of Samus and Mario like many of us think he can.

Whoa now, I'd say that's pushing into Sephy territory with this pack. Nothing wrong with Snake doing that well, but still !!

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/28/2008 8:47:04 PM | message detail
Round 2

Division 5- Semifinal 2

Ryu Hayabusa


A very impressive first round showing once again, will we see another second round collapse?

Zero

I'm never going to say this again, but please lose here Zero

Snake

DIE SNAKE DIE!

Vivi

The only not-crappy thing to come out of his game, he should be a distant fourth.

Analysis:

An interesting match to say the least. And a very key match with round 3 consequences. Essentially, Zero needs to be eliminated here for Mega Man > Snake to work, which is why you'll see me rooting against that paragon of badassery.

Unfortunately, things look pretty good for Zero. Despite losing to Hayabusa last round, we have reason to believe Ryu will falter here, namely his round 2 match involving Snake last year, where he went from beating Riku/Roxas combined, to losing to Riku handily.

He's shown that NG2 has boosted him though by going even with Zero. It's hard to make sense of the ninja, as he's been all over the map since 2004.

Another theory that I'm kind of banking on here is that Snake wasn't Ryu's problem last year, rather it was Nightmare stealing some of his DoA appeal. Irregardless, we should be in for a barnburner here.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Snake 34%, Ryu 25%, Zero 24%, Vivi 17%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Snake > Zero
TuRtLe's Vote: Zero
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 8:47:10 PM | message detail
So whos gonna get the board vote? Vivi?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/28/2008 8:47:39 PM | message detail
If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2008 8:48:20 PM | message detail
If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/28/2008 8:50:20 PM | message detail
If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.


Heard it here folks
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/28/2008 8:50:50 PM | message detail
Albion rally a good character for once.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2008 8:50:55 PM | message detail
If he gets 45.01% and BT backs out, I'll be so mad...!

Haha...come on, Vivi/Hayabusa.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/28/2008 8:51:18 PM | message detail
If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.

All the more reason to root for Snake. Come on Snake!!!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 8:52:10 PM | message detail
The best two characters in this match are Snake and Ryu
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Iamthekuzalol | Posted 10/28/2008 8:53:24 PM | message detail
I believe Cloud might not even come close to breaking 45% against 3 very solid midcarder. He didn't break 60% against 1 low midcarder and 2 extreme jobber in R1.

As long as Snake can score 38-40%, he is somewhere around Mario and Samus level.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/28/2008 8:57:02 PM | message detail
I think Solid will come just shy of 39%, which would be plenty well enough for me.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2008 8:57:43 PM | message detail
If Snake gets 39% I'll be very impressed. This is stiff competition he's facing, guys.

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RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/28/2008 8:59:56 PM | message detail
Zero will perform extremely well.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/28/2008 9:00:14 PM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 0%

0
Zero 36.36%

4
Solid Snake 54.55%

6
Vivi Ornitier 9.09%

1
TOTAL VOTES 11

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Majin Lou | Posted 10/28/2008 9:00:19 PM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 6.67%

1
Zero 40%

6
Solid Snake 46.67%

7
Vivi Ornitier 6.67%

1
TOTAL VOTES 15
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/28/2008 9:00:24 PM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 0%

0
Zero 50%

3
Solid Snake 50%

3
Vivi Ornitier 0%

0
TOTAL VOTES 6

Gah! Wanted that first Snake vote... so bad!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 9:00:26 PM | message detail
wow ryu
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/28/2008 9:00:34 PM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 6.25% 1
Zero 37.5% 6
Solid Snake 43.75% 7
Vivi Ornitier 12.5% 2
TOTAL VOTES 16

Nice start for Zero!
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/28/2008 9:00:47 PM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 10.53% 2
Zero 42.11% 8
Solid Snake 36.84% 7
Vivi Ornitier 10.53% 2
TOTAL VOTES 19

Zero is winning!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:00 PM | message detail
c'mon 1% percent snake so BT closes his account
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:09 PM | message detail
Match over.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:14 PM | message detail
Ryu Hayabusa 12.17% 28
Zero 23.91% 55
Solid Snake 41.74% 96
Vivi Ornitier 22.17% 51
TOTAL VOTES 230

Aww yeah Snake!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:14 PM | message detail
Keep it up, Snaaaaaaaku!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:24 PM | message detail
Zero and Snake starting out very well.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:34 PM | message detail
oh god snake is at 43%

worried BT?
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TheRye | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:38 PM | message detail
First for Ryu

Ryu Hayabusa 7.14%

1
Zero 42.86%

6
Solid Snake 42.86%

6
Vivi Ornitier 7.14%

1
TOTAL VOTES 14
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:40 PM | message detail
If Snake gets 43-45%, I'll close my account right now.

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RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/28/2008 9:01:41 PM | message detail
Snake > Ryu Hayabusa SFF confirmed!
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