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paraboxx | Posted 10/24/2008 11:31:30 PM | message detail
The point is: Many of the Nintendo midcarders are suddenly nosediving so fast that suddenly they seem worse than CATS and that's saying something.

...this is one of those "____'s like a Nintendo character" things, isn't it?

Wow. Sonic, Mega Man, and now Crono.
Nintendo's sure made a lot more games than I thought they did!
CrazyAznChick | Posted 10/24/2008 11:31:39 PM | message detail

Shoenin_Kakashi (#110)
Hot damn, 5 360 games?



360FAQs

Plus, WoW back on the top 10 makes me feel really good about Arthas in 2 days
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transience | Posted 10/24/2008 11:34:42 PM | message detail
here's your Wii games

12 10 1 261 Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl
45 60 45 3 Wii Naruto: Clash of Ninja Revolution 2
49 45 3 104 Wii Mega Man 9 (does this even count?)
53 52 2 699 Wii The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
54 53 1 197 Wii Mario Kart Wii
55 51 22 24 Wii Harvest Moon: Tree of Tranquility
71 72 71 11 Wii Guitar Hero World Tour
73 69 69 2 Wii Wii Music (aww yeah)


vs.

1 1 1 101 Xbox 360 Fable II
3 2 1 25 Xbox 360 Saints Row 2
4 4 3 18 Xbox 360 Dead Space
5 5 5 9 Xbox 360 Far Cry 2
6 8 3 28 Xbox 360 Fallout 3
14 13 2 100 Xbox 360 Rock Band 2
15 15 14 51 Xbox 360 Gears of War 2
20 18 1 84 Xbox 360 Tales of Vesperia
22 22 1 67 Xbox 360 Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
24 23 12 16 Xbox 360 Call of Duty: World at War
25 29 25 43 Xbox 360 Guitar Hero World Tour
26 26 26 4 Xbox 360 Spider-Man: Web of Shadows
34 33 1 470 Xbox 360 Halo 3
35 34 1 178 Xbox 360 Grand Theft Auto IV
56 55 55 4 Xbox 360 Midnight Club: Los Angeles
62 90 1 116 Xbox 360 Soulcalibur IV
65 65 11 30 Xbox 360 Lego Batman
66 64 1 938 Xbox 360 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
77 79 2 242 Xbox 360 Lost Odyssey
78 77 1 347 Xbox 360 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
91 84 2 30 Xbox 360 Silent Hill: Homecoming
94 95 14 20 Xbox 360 NBA 2K9
96 92 4 63 Xbox 360 Infinite Undiscovery
97 86 9 19 Xbox 360 Fable II Pub Games
99 Ret 2 63 Xbox 360 Mercenaries 2: World in Flames

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/24/2008 11:51:05 PM | message detail
lol falco cut scorpy
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greatone10 | Posted 10/25/2008 1:57:07 AM | message detail
We really should have seen this coming from the Round 1 match with Gordon and Scorpion. I would bet that Gordon would have done the same thing he's doing now if Big Daddy wasn't leeching some of the Xbox/FPS support away from him.
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wavedash101 | Posted 10/25/2008 2:36:32 AM | message detail
GF gets barely anything from 360. He is PC through and through. Now PC shooter SFF is possible
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greatone10 | Posted 10/25/2008 2:56:35 AM | message detail
The Orange Box got released on the 360 between his Round 1 and 2 matches last year. Then look at his performances against Duke and tell me it didn't do something.
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mdarkcecil | Posted 10/25/2008 3:10:21 AM | message detail
WTF, Why is Scorpion last, he's IMMORTAL. There is no F-ing way, Falco could kill an immortal. Little kids need to stay away from the polls, and older gammers need to play more games.
__hiei__ | Posted 10/25/2008 5:12:05 AM | message detail
well,Vincent has over 40% ...but is this really all that impressive?

i mean, Gordon Freeman is owning everyone else in the poll. >_> and scorpion seems like he'll finish very close to falco...
greatone10 | Posted 10/25/2008 5:24:39 AM | message detail

mdarkcecil (#208)
WTF, Why is Scorpion last, he's IMMORTAL. There is no F-ing way, Falco could kill an immortal. Little kids need to stay away from the polls, and older gammers need to play more games.



You might want to re-read the poll, unless Falco's making a huge comeback nobody knows about.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 10/25/2008 5:28:04 AM | message detail
I don't get it,Scorpion beat Gordon in their match and now he is losing from him,how is that possible?
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greatone10 | Posted 10/25/2008 5:38:28 AM | message detail
There's plenty of reasons. Big Daddy taking a lot of the 360/PC/FPS vote in Round 1 is one. Gordon having a tendency to keep votes in Round 2 despite stronger characters due to his hardcore fanbase is another (he did this to Duke last year as well). There's also Scorpion's pic, which while somewhat cool looking, does not look like traditional Scorpion. Really, Scorpion was doomed the moment Gordon made Round 1 a close match.
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CP724 | Posted 10/25/2008 5:56:14 AM | message detail
vincent/scorpion badass LFF imo.
voltch | Posted 10/25/2008 6:01:02 AM | message detail
Vincent's doing well,gordon's stronger than i thought and Scorpion's pretty good so him being hammered like this is a bit unexpected.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/25/2008 6:23:31 AM | message detail
Vincent over 40% already. Good job from him.

Gordon's overperformance and Falco's flop don't surprise me.

Scorpion doing this bad does though. Getting stalled by a Falco that flopped? oh geez
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BagFries | Posted 10/25/2008 7:46:02 AM | message detail
Moltar sums up my feelings pretty well. I was going to say "Falco with 15%" last night before the poll started but stayed conservative with a "flop for high teens." You don't get that close to Glados and get on the same level with Fox. Even ignoring Vincent's under performance, he still beat him down pretty good. Not quite sure why everyone thought that performance was amazing when it was happening. Didn't expect Scorpion to bomb just as much though. I'll attribute a lot of it to the pic though... Scorpion's a fairly generic name, and I could easily see fans of his not realizing that's MK Scorpion from the pic. Gordon still most likely beats him even with a good pic, but it doesn't look as ridiculous as it does right now.

And Samus' performance was totally 100% more impressive than what Vincent's doing now. Link > Samus book it.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2008 7:51:44 AM | message detail
Jesus. That's some morning vote from Falco.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/25/2008 7:58:19 AM | message detail
Falco/Scorpion/Freeman vs. LFF Ganondorf/Frog/Nightmare

Vincent may not even need Falco to win.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 121/168 Today's Match: Vincent > Scorpion
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/25/2008 8:02:14 AM | message detail
As awful as Falco looks, Scorpion looks worse. He's not far off his 2007 percentage against Samus, Mega Man, and Yoshi.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/25/2008 8:35:02 AM | message detail
If you compare LFF'd Ganondorf/Frog/Nightmare to Gordon/Scorpion/Falco through Frog/Scorpion 2007, Vincent looks good to beat Samus next round, but I don't think this is the same Scorpion. Samus doubled Frog yesterday while being LFF'd by Ganon; Vincent has no one to LFF him today and he's at 61% on Gordon Freeman. Freeman is probably stronger than Frog now, but I can't really call that a very impressive performance by Vincent....Samus did better yesterday.
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Bracket: Vincent > Falco --- Vote: Falco
chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/25/2008 8:44:48 AM | message detail
As awful as Falco looks, Scorpion looks worse. He's not far off his 2007 percentage against Samus, Mega Man, and Yoshi.

Vincent > Samus AND Mega Man believe

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/25/2008 9:28:36 AM | message detail
You have to remember that Scorpion's value last year is a bit inflated due to the triple SFF between Yoshi/Samus/Mega Man
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BDawg | Posted 10/25/2008 9:50:57 AM | message detail
Would've rather seen Fox here just to get something definitive about him. Doesn't look like he could touch Gordon in this situation, at least. But maybe he could beat Skeletor.
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creativename | Posted 10/25/2008 9:52:52 AM | message detail
BagFries
Gordon still most likely beats him even with a good pic, but it doesn't look as ridiculous as it does right now.

I agree. Big Daddy probably took just enough votes from Gordon for Scorpion to beat him in round 1, so Gordon likely wins again here anyway. But the picture has got to be hurting him tremendously. It looks nothing like normal Scorpion.


red sox 777
but I don't think this is the same Scorpion.

It definitely isn't. He might be weaker this year even not considering the picture, but the picture makes this a different Scorpion anyway.

Samus doubled Frog yesterday while being LFF'd by Ganon

I don't think she was really noticeably LFF'd by Ganon. If you work out the x-stats for that match using Morgoth's formula and Excel solver, we get the following:

Samus 50.00%
Ganon 35.91%
Frog 30.31%
Nightmare 24.15%

And Frog got 29.95% against Samus directly back in 2K5, which is like exactly the same. Frog may be a bit weaker today, so Samus might have been hurt slightly, but mostly I think Ganon was SFFed - albeit not too much. Don't think he was really hurting Samus.

I myself was expecting more LFF here after what happened with Mario/Zelda/MMX, but it seems to not have materialized (unless Frog is a lot weaker than in 2K5, and Nightmare is even more of an utter chump against tough competition than he looks...or you think Samus should be stronger today than in 2K5, which is probably more reasonable than the former things).

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/25/2008 9:55:47 AM | message detail
You gotta wonder how much Gordon woulda beaten Scorpy in round 1 if Big Daddy wasn't there.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/25/2008 9:57:06 AM | message detail
You have to remember that Scorpion's value last year is a bit inflated due to the triple SFF between Yoshi/Samus/Mega Man

Let's try this.

In round 2 Samus got 65.69% on Scorpion, right now Vincent is getting 68.05%. Unless Midna was a huge factor I think Scorpion has dropped.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 121/168 Today's Match: Vincent > Scorpion
BDawg | Posted 10/25/2008 9:59:22 AM | message detail
At least Vincent takes a break from devastating % gains, unlike Cloud and Sephiroth.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2008 11:12:45 AM | message detail
I agree. Big Daddy probably took just enough votes from Gordon for Scorpion to beat him in round 1, so Gordon likely wins again here anyway. But the picture has got to be hurting him tremendously. It looks nothing like normal Scorpion.

I seriously doubt it's hurting him that much. 2% shift at the most; Gordon would still be winning easily.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/25/2008 1:25:55 PM | message detail
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Xuxon | Posted 10/25/2008 1:45:42 PM | message detail
Gordon to beat Ganon next round? Just by that text it'd put him down with Magus, Tidus, and Shadow as far as the fall from 2003 goes, although of course it'd be due to SFF.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/25/2008 2:22:05 PM | message detail
Eh... who knows anymore with Gordon, maybe he can beat Ganon xD
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voltch | Posted 10/25/2008 2:25:06 PM | message detail
So GFNW but still goes through on runner's up spot?
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2008 2:31:31 PM | message detail
Using Scorpion/Frog comparisons, I think Vincent's chances at the upset next round are better than I initially gave credit (albeit still quite slim). Yes, this is a weaker Scorpion and possibly a stronger Frog. But Bacondorf's presence makes nothing 100% certain.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/25/2008 2:33:44 PM | message detail
no bacondorf around these parts

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/25/2008 2:35:34 PM | message detail
Also, considering the only drama next round will be a fight for first, Gordon seemingly looking better against tougher opposition (as well as likely boosted), Ganon getting his Bacon picture... I'd be flabbergasted if Gordon didn't beat Ganon next round. Soundly, even.
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voltch | Posted 10/25/2008 2:44:08 PM | message detail
if gordon beats the dorf then I claim him to be the pikachu of the contest.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/25/2008 2:54:40 PM | message detail
Well, last year Scorpion beat Frog better than Dorf did this year. And Gordon is manhandling that Scorpion. It's possible
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ZFS | Posted 10/25/2008 3:07:45 PM | message detail
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2008 3:21:47 PM | message detail
So...

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3281&num=4
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=3273&num=4

More impressive result?

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greatone10 | Posted 10/25/2008 3:43:49 PM | message detail

The n00b Avenger (#237)
Well, last year Scorpion beat Frog better than Dorf did this year. And Gordon is manhandling that Scorpion. It's possible



Take Samus out of the poll and Ganon manhandles Frog.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/25/2008 3:49:00 PM | message detail
Hmm, seems Vincent might not even get 40% here. Noble Nine breaker my ass.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/25/2008 3:51:49 PM | message detail
So....assuming Block gets its usual 28-31%, what does Crono need of the Crono/Ryu/Ammy votes to match Vincent's performance here?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/25/2008 3:55:06 PM | message detail
I hope Block flops like Mudkip. Please BLock, flop.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/25/2008 4:01:25 PM | message detail

greatone10 (#240)
Take Samus out of the poll and Ganon manhandles Frog.



Yeah ok let's just take Samus out of the next round then...

oh wait
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/25/2008 4:03:10 PM | message detail
Just Crono beating L block will already be good enough IMO.
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/25/2008 4:08:39 PM | message detail
I have a feeling L-Block isn't going to be as static as last year. You're hardly as much of a joke character once you've won a contest.

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BDawg | Posted 10/25/2008 4:10:29 PM | message detail
Ugh, I forgot the block party is tomorrow.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/25/2008 4:12:03 PM | message detail
Block should win pretty easily tomorrow. He already won despite another joke character sharing the poll and soaking up 14%.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/25/2008 4:16:07 PM | message detail

KamikazePotato (#246)
I have a feeling L-Block isn't going to be as static as last year. You're hardly as much of a joke character once you've won a contest.



You'd think, but people seem to still find lulz in the block after that round 1 performance
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/25/2008 6:01:25 PM | message detail
The thing that gives me hope is that L-Block's trends have changed so dramatically. Each round last year, his early vote became better and better, but this year he regressed to having more balanced trends than even round 1 last year. Link was able to go more or less even with L during the day last year....L-Block's insane early vote was what built up that lead.
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Character Battle VII --- Score: 122/172 --- T-607 (124 way)
Bracket: Vincent > Falco --- Vote: Falco
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