GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 607
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:11:03 PM | message detail |
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mario aint ready to give up yet --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:11:04 PM | message detail |
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I was on the side of Mario there So was I so basically this boils down to KH v Lopen ... WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| vcharon | Posted 10/22/2008 10:11:11 PM | message detail |
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That's mama Luigi to you Mario! --- :> |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 10:11:17 PM | message detail |
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I wonder who's sprite will appeal more to voters next round: Mario's or Luigi's. Yeah, I've compiled a collection of awesome Luigi sprites and are sending a bunch of them in. Luigi will be fine in that regard. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:11:33 PM | message detail |
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Bowser easily avoided a tripling. Back when he didn't suck, yes. I don't see how you'd expect Luigi, who is proven better with SFF, to not avoid one and easily. Luigi would not avoid getting tripled because his fanbase is even closer to Mario's than Bowser's is. They have nearly the same character design, and Luigi has always been Mario's lesser half. Holding up well against two Nintendo villains is not the same as holding up well against Player 1. I doubt Luigi would even get doubled by Mario. Luigi would get nearly doubled by Mario based purely on last year's x-stats with no SFF involved. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| SonicRaptor | Posted 10/22/2008 10:11:47 PM | message detail |
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I wasn't expecting Zelda to leech votes off of Mario to THIS degree...Jesus Christ. --- Today's Subliminal Thought Is: |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 10:12:44 PM | message detail |
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Luigi being Player 2 is probably what saves him from being destroyed,
actually. If he was a carbon copy of Mario he would have no unique fans. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/22/2008 10:14:52 PM | message detail |
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So I have Mario > X this round but X > Mario next. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:15:52 PM | message detail |
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If Mario does better against X next round... well I don't make
account bets especially with myself, but that's about how confident I
am, if you catch my drift. I don't make account bets either, but I would I consider one on something I already said I'm quite iffy about? Bowser easily avoided a tripling. Dude, that's hero/villain. Totally different. Not saying Luigi will *definitely* suck against Mario (like I said, I'd love if he didn't), but you can't say he'll hold up decent just because Bowser did. Luigi is Mario's double. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| vcharon | Posted 10/22/2008 10:16:28 PM | message detail |
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I personally wouldn't play the Mario Bros. games unless I got to be Luigi. There's just no way I'm alone in feeling that way. Luigi will not flop. --- :> |
| Tohoya | Posted 10/22/2008 10:16:39 PM | message detail |
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I personally think Luigi/Mario rSFF is a distinct possibility. --- "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." --Ezekiel 23:20 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 10:16:58 PM | message detail |
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I refused to buy Super Paper Mario unless Luigi was a playable character. >_> --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:17:11 PM | message detail |
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I'm the same way. Given the choice between Mario and Luigi, I'd pick Luigi every single time. --- sig |
| smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:17:15 PM | message detail |
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There's no evidence to support it, smitey, that's why. People here focus too much on history at times without reference to common sense. Oh well, you'll see when the match comes around. Why would he fold? He's had his own games, he's actually PLAYABLE unlike Zelda, and he's got internet memes. Zelda is statistically stronger than Luigi by quite a bit. And if you think being playable = being stronger in these contests, Sephiroth would like to have a word with you. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| swirIdude | Posted 10/22/2008 10:17:26 PM | message detail |
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I'm definitely voting Luigi next round. --- SSBB FC: 4425-1156-3590 Looking for a new sig. |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:17:53 PM | message detail |
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Okay, last question before I head to bed. Where are we putting Mario now in terms of snap impressions on the NN pecking order? (directly AND indirectly) --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:18:39 PM | message detail |
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Zelda is statistically stronger than Luigi by quite a bit. And if
you think being playable = being stronger in these contests, Sephiroth
would like to have a word with you. It doesn't mean much when it comes to that kind of strength, but it does when it comes to SFF. People identify more with characters they can play and won't abandon them as much as for NPCs --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:18:58 PM | message detail |
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link >= cloud > sephiroth >= snake > mario > samus > crono > MAGE MAN > sonic yes --- CB7 Score: 112/152 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg || http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:19:01 PM | message detail |
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Karma Hunter (#366) Fifth after Link, Cloud, Sephiroth, and Solid Snake (oh snap!) --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:19:18 PM | message detail |
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What are they thinking indeed...! Anyway, yeah, definitely like Mario here once more. MMX is as expected, dropping off significantly after the Power Hour. Luigi would not avoid getting tripled because his fanbase is even closer to Mario's than Bowser's is. They have nearly the same character design, and Luigi has always been Mario's lesser half. Holding up well against two Nintendo villains is not the same as holding up well against Player 1. Luigi would get nearly doubled by Mario based purely on last year's x-stats with no SFF involved. Touche on Luigi and the statistical result. Still. A tripling is something I think he'd easily avoid. Bowser may not be what he once was, but Luigi's no slouch. I do see what you're saying about Bowser having more of an outside fanbase... but I think Luigi has a more devoted fanbase. Probably about balances out. And in this format, it means Luigi holds up even better with respect to Mario because Liquid and X are taking the "badass" votes. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 2 - Raiden/Big Boss/Kirby. Target: 48%. Kain Stronger than Kirby & Big Boss!?!? Believe |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:19:37 PM | message detail |
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looks like smitelf's got the right idea --- CB7 Score: 112/152 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg || http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:20:09 PM | message detail |
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But Knuckles had to have been hurt just as much as Mario and Zelda
were (which from the looks of this was pretty large) because he didn't
overperform relative to either of them. Maybe it was just SonicSUCK striking again, who knows. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:20:58 PM | message detail |
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It doesn't mean much when it comes to that kind of strength, but it
does when it comes to SFF. People identify more with characters they
can play and won't abandon them as much as for NPCs That's right, like how Vincent avoided getting owned by Sephiroth...oh wait... *counts the seconds until someone mentions the "Vincent is an optional character" defense* --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:21:00 PM | message detail |
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Hmm... X is slowing down. I'm getting worried. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:21:11 PM | message detail |
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People here focus too much on history at times without reference to common sense If you knew more about me, you'd know that I often err on the side of common sense first. Luigi is a common sense pick just as much or more than a stats pick to hold up. There are a lot of Luigi fans out there. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 2 - Raiden/Big Boss/Kirby. Target: 48%. Kain Stronger than Kirby & Big Boss!?!? Believe |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:21:11 PM | message detail |
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Yeah... X definitely seems to be slowing down. He's barely gained anything on Mario once the power hour ended. --- sig |
| Ngamer64 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:21:20 PM | message detail |
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Let's keep in mind how R3 will be the sprite round, and how SB will be
wanting to see original appearance sprites where possible. So MMX is
going to look rockin',
while L should be pretty much a green palette swap. BUT, maybe the
straight red/green swap is actually Luigi's best bet- it gets to the
heart of his "Player Two" appeal while avoiding that Luigi's Mansion
era that people seemed to hate him for. So yeah, even if Mario is better off next time around in terms of LFF, I could see the picture helping to offset those losses for X. --- Check out the '08 Guru Site! http://thengamer.com/guru/ Other Hot Content: thengamer.com/xstats | board8.wikia.com |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:23:13 PM | message detail |
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And in this format, it means Luigi holds up even better with respect
to Mario because Liquid and X are taking the "badass" votes. Wait wait wait wait wait. You are trying to deny Mario/Zelda hurting each other but are quite willing to trust "badass" LFF...? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:23:19 PM | message detail |
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And at this point I'd call Luigi stronger than Zelda. His last few years certainly support it. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 2 - Raiden/Big Boss/Kirby. Target: 48%. Kain Stronger than Kirby & Big Boss!?!? Believe |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:23:37 PM | message detail |
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Yeah... X definitely seems to be slowing down. He's barely gained anything on Mario once the power hour ended. This makes me wary if anything - MMX picking up some day vote steam wouldn't shock me. Surprise, yes. Shock, no. That's right, like how Vincent avoided getting owned by Sephiroth...oh wait... Seph is just weird. Remember Tifa? Actually, that makes me realize something. Vincent vs Tifa in a direct matchup... --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| vcharon | Posted 10/22/2008 10:24:15 PM | message detail |
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The sprite's clearly need to be Luigi jumping on Mario's head. --- :> |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:24:22 PM | message detail |
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Actually, that makes me realize something. Vincent vs Tifa in a direct matchup... Boobs > Badass factor --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:24:23 PM | message detail |
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If Vincent broke 40% on Tifa in a direct match-up, I'd be surprised. --- It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:24:44 PM | message detail |
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Liquid Snake to beat Zelda directly confirmed bless you MGS4 --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:25:19 PM | message detail |
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You are trying to deny Mario/Zelda hurting each other but are quite willing to trust "badass" LFF...? ... what? It's not "badass LFF". It's that people who don't like "teh kiddy Mario character" have options to vote for that aren't Bowser in this format. Well, not that Bowser is even in the match. But what I'm saying is: Bowser probably gets a lot of votes from people who aren't huge Nintendo fans against Nintendo, and he loses that support in 4 ways to characters that actually aren't Nintendo. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 2 - Raiden/Big Boss/Kirby. Target: 48%. Kain Stronger than Kirby & Big Boss!?!? Believe |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:25:19 PM | message detail |
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WarThaNemesis2 (#379) If Vincent broke 40% on Tifa in a direct match-up, I'd be surprised. wut --- CB7 Score: 112/152 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg || http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:25:23 PM | message detail |
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BUT, maybe the straight red/green swap is actually Luigi's best bet-
it gets to the heart of his "Player Two" appeal while avoiding that
Luigi's Mansion era that people seemed to hate him for. Indeed :) I myself thought PLAYER TWO was where it's at, baby! --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:26:13 PM | message detail |
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If Vincent broke 40% on Tifa in a direct match-up, I'd be surprised. uhhhhh well there's one take --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:26:16 PM | message detail |
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IT'S FREAKING TIFA! --- It has War, ExTha, and Crasty insulting each other as hedgehogs while being vaguely about your boobs. What did you expect. - Shadow The ExTha |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:26:59 PM | message detail |
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I'd take Vincent>Tifa. I wouldn't be too confident in it, but I wouldn't think much about it either. That would be my pick. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:27:15 PM | message detail |
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Tifa holding up better than Vincent is pretty simple: FFVII voters gave
Seph their votes in the Vincent match to try to get him over Link (and
Nintendo fans evidently thought Link invincible and tried futilely to
get Mario over Sephiroth), resulting in Sephiroth beating Link the
first update. In the Tifa match it was obvious Sephiroth would win
easily, and FFVII voters thus voted for Tifa. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 110/156 --- T-420 (108 way) Bracket: Mario > Megaman X --- Vote: Megaman X |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:27:47 PM | message detail |
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Good to see a lot of Player Two fans in this topic! And I'm willing to take that Tifa > Vincent upset. --- sig |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:28:36 PM | message detail |
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... what? It's not "badass LFF". It's that people who don't like
"teh kiddy Mario character" have options to vote for that aren't Bowser
in this format. Well, not that Bowser is even in the match. But what
I'm saying is: Bowser probably gets a lot of votes from people who
aren't huge Nintendo fans against Nintendo, and he loses that support
in 4 ways to characters that actually aren't Nintendo. ... I think you just lost me. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/22/2008 10:29:46 PM | message detail |
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Mario and Zelda are overlapping a lot, but Zelda is taking a bigger chunk of that overlap than she should be. Luigi and Mario overlap more, but if Luigi gets pummeled, he doesn't take as much overlap. Next round depends entirely on how well Luigi stands up to Mario. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:30:09 PM | message detail |
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Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys look at the result before voting? I see a lot of arguments like, well... FFVII voters gave Seph their votes in the Vincent match to try to get him over Link This. Do you really give casual voters that much credit? I don't. The reason Vincent did so poorly against Sephiroth is because they both occupy the same role in the game - that silent 'badass' archetype, so there's a lot more overlap between them as opposed to long sword and boobs. --- CB7 Score: 112/152 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg || http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:31:08 PM | message detail |
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Whoo, Zelda still putting up some resistance against the Kipz! --- sig |
| creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:32:17 PM | message detail |
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I still have total confidence in Mario winning this match, but just have to say again, wow MMX. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:33:01 PM | message detail |
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X needs to start pulling away more. These very miniscule gains are REALLY worrying me. --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:33:11 PM | message detail |
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I used to look at poll results before I came here whenever both
characters in the poll were ones that I liked. I always voted for the
losing one. >_> --- sig |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/22/2008 10:33:16 PM | message detail |
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I'm not that surprised. If Bowser/Luigi overlap enough to let a scrubby
midcarder like Liquid win, why not someone in the Noble Nine range? --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
