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smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 9:54:44 PM | message detail
Anyway, yeah, it's quite possible Luigi will hurt Mario worse. That is, of course, what everyone's first instinct would be.

Hmm, funny, it's not my first instinct. My first instinct is to think that the fanbase split will be so much in Mario's favor that it will be an SFF situation rather than an LFF one.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:04 PM | message detail
X should be safe with a 1000 vote lead. That picture has enough casual appeal for me to grant him that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:14 PM | message detail
Yeah, Luigi is not going to roll over and die against Mario. He'll get SFFd, but after how badly he beat Bowser I doubt he ends up looking pitiful.

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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:39 PM | message detail
whoa

might need to rethink my Mario hype here
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:42 PM | message detail
70 vote gain for X...

He might be up by 3-4k come morning haha
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:48 PM | message detail
...Yeah, over.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:56 PM | message detail
MUDKIP CUT

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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:55:58 PM | message detail
uhh......die more, Mario. Actually, keep doing that for the next 7 hours.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 9:56:00 PM | message detail
oh man cut by Mudkip
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/22/2008 9:56:00 PM | message detail
MUDKIP CUTS MARIO
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/22/2008 9:56:04 PM | message detail
wow, X
just... wow
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/22/2008 9:56:38 PM | message detail
mudkip beats mario in a update

that update summarizes so much about this contest
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Tequilla Gundam | Posted 10/22/2008 9:56:52 PM | message detail
My question is why did all the gurus who ended up with

MMX
Luigi
Bowser
Mario

still take Mario > MMX.

Answer this please.
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 9:56:56 PM | message detail
Wow, 70 votes, yeah. Well, unexpected results are cool. Mega Man X is gonna make this tough for Mario, that's for sure. Wanna see how post power hour goes first, though.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:57:00 PM | message detail
X > Kipz

lets do this
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:57:12 PM | message detail
...and it looks like he could get that lead in a couple of hours. Yeesh.

But seriously guys LUIGI I mean if you need reminding look at the banner HE'S GONNA GET KILLED
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ZFS | Posted 10/22/2008 9:57:16 PM | message detail
What the hell is this

gamefaqs what is going on

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creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 9:58:30 PM | message detail
Explain Knuckles not doing any better than he should've last round, then.

So perhaps it was you that I read making those kinds of incredible statements.

Knuckles got hurt by Mario (and perhaps Zelda) himself. Not Link/Shadow style, but an element of Link/Shadow. Thus Mario/Zelda hurting each other wasn't enough for him to do great.

People who think Zelda is going to hurt Mario more than friggin Luigi need to get a clue about how SFF works.

Good grief.

Like I said, it is a possibility - I didn't say it *would* happen. And denying the possibility is nuts. These contests are unpredictable enough, and this is Mario franchise/Zelda franchise overlap vs. Mario franchise/Mario franchise overlap here. Mario/Luigi could well be SFF far more than LFF, whereas Mario/Zelda is clearly LFF.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:58:30 PM | message detail
So guys, say X wins this match by like say... 3k

Think that it matters if Luigi or Zelda SFFs him more? He might just win regardless
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:58:42 PM | message detail
But seriously guys LUIGI I mean if you need reminding look at the banner HE'S GONNA GET KILLED

Luigi just destroyed Bowser almost as well as Mario would've done in this format. (well, not almost, but still damn good)

WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED YOU MARIO FANBOY

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:58:58 PM | message detail
Wow, X may actually pull this off.....Mario to take last in the quarterfinals confirmed!

Perhaps Mudkip is also LFFing Mario? He doesn't seem to be all that much of a joke character considering how far he is below his percentage last round.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:07 PM | message detail
Bowser is a chump who would get 60-40'd by Ryu Luigi got rSFF'd
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smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:29 PM | message detail
It's definitely possible, even likely, that Zelda hurts Mario more than Luigi does. All it would take is for Luigi to be weak enough against Mario for Mario to SFF him instead of getting LFFed.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:38 PM | message detail
good lord, Mario
do something
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:39 PM | message detail
That's 2 for Kipz!
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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:44 PM | message detail
Mudkip comin' for ya
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:49 PM | message detail
2 cuts on mario in a row for kipz... 3 times is a trend

DO IT 4CHAN
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ZFS | Posted 10/22/2008 10:00:49 PM | message detail
Yeah, Luigi is not going to roll over and die against Mario.

Oh, he'll get hit hard. Yesterday isn't proof of Luigi's ability to hold up against his better brother. Surprised we have some people thinking he won't.

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/22/2008 10:01:13 PM | message detail
Sadkip is mad.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 10:02:02 PM | message detail
Luigi will hold up all right, I guess, considering how huge the overlap is (right down to the design). but he's still gonna be in last by a good amount.

the match to look at there is Liquid vs. Mario. not X/Mario.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:02:03 PM | message detail
Wow the once Iconic Mario has really fallen far this round. Do you truly believe that Brawl actually hurt him?

As this rate, Princess Peach should just hire X to be her guard and Mario would never need to rescue her again.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 10:02:04 PM | message detail
Despite what some of you may think, Luigi has his own fans. A lot of them.

Luigi will get SFFd, yeah, but not that badly.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:02:20 PM | message detail
So if X beats Mario

would that count as a noble niner losing to a non noble niner? >_>
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:03:09 PM | message detail
And denying the possibility is nuts

I'm going as far as to deny it outright, yes. But then again, I guess I am nuts.

If Mario does better against X next round... well I don't make account bets especially with myself, but that's about how confident I am, if you catch my drift.

Luigi should hold up very well. There's not really anything to support him folding here. Luigi has his share of fans, and does really well in the favorite Mario character polls... and he's got the solid 4-way contest history (yesterday's thrashing of Bowser should make a believer out of you) to back him up.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:04:24 PM | message detail
I'm thinkin' Luigi holds up well next round. Lots of people who prefer Luigi over Mario, so I wouldn't be surpised to see him really screw Mario over (as if he wasn't doing that well enough himself - good lord).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:04:47 PM | message detail
did someone just make a jokefodder reference without trashing her

Man I wonder how weak she'd be this year
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smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:05:02 PM | message detail
Luigi just destroyed Bowser almost as well as Mario would've done in this format. (well, not almost, but still damn good)

WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED YOU MARIO FANBOY


This is terrible logic that relies far too much on indirect comparisons of strength. This is Mario vs. Luigi here. In a 1v1 match, Luigi would be lucky to avoid a tripling.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:06:08 PM | message detail
Mario pulled from Mudkip there.

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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:06:29 PM | message detail
Bowser easily avoided a tripling. I don't see how you'd expect Luigi, who is proven better with SFF, to not avoid one and easily. I doubt Luigi would even get doubled by Mario.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:07:08 PM | message detail
Okay forget this match new topic does Jill Valentine double in the rematch
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smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 10:07:20 PM | message detail
I can't believe people think Luigi won't fold against Mario. It won't be Link/Zelda level folding, but Luigi is still going to take a major beating.
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:07:53 PM | message detail
There's no evidence to support it, smitey, that's why.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 10:08:25 PM | message detail
I can't believe people think Luigi won't fold against Mario. It won't be Link/Zelda level folding, but Luigi is still going to take a major beating.

See, when you say these things you have to back it up with some good solid contest history. Luigi could fold against Mario, but calling it a certainty given their recent history is foolish.

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2008 10:08:29 PM | message detail
I can see Mario thrashing Luigi next round simply from the Nintendo fanbase realizing he needs their votes to beat X. That's not to say it will happen, but it wouldn't surprise me; voters do follow the contest results.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 10:08:53 PM | message detail
There's no evidence to support it, smitey, that's why.

Uhhhh this is reminding me more and more of Mario/Samus

except it's Mario/Luigi what are you people thinking
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 10:08:57 PM | message detail

smitelf (#341)
I can't believe people think Luigi won't fold against Mario. It won't be Link/Zelda level folding, but Luigi is still going to take a major beating.



Why would he fold? He's had his own games, he's actually PLAYABLE unlike Zelda, and he's got internet memes.
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creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 10:09:27 PM | message detail
smitelf
Hmm, funny, it's not my first instinct. My first instinct is to think that the fanbase split will be so much in Mario's favor that it will be an SFF situation rather than an LFF one.

Well your first instinct may well be dead on.

Anyway, on my first bracket making run, I had X>Mario next round because of the obvious LFF.

But then a short while later I changed my bracket, because I thought "whoops, X>Mario, that's insane". On the little thought I gave it, I figured Mario would probably SFF Mega Man X anyway, like Link did to Mega Man. And if Mario can SFF Samus, he should be able to SFF Mega Man, and Mega Man X should be the same (although looks like X may not be as SFF-vulnerable as Mega himself; we can't be sure at this point but it's possible).

But on seeing this match's initial results, I was like wow, we will see X>Mario next round after all!

Only on rethinking things did I consider this match being worse for Mario than next match.
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 10:09:31 PM | message detail
I was on the side of Mario there

Just so you know

I know how to read the people, friend!
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Yesmar | Posted 10/22/2008 10:10:08 PM | message detail
Knuckles got hurt by Mario (and perhaps Zelda) himself. Not Link/Shadow style, but an element of Link/Shadow. Thus Mario/Zelda hurting each other wasn't enough for him to do great.

But Knuckles had to have been hurt just as much as Mario and Zelda were (which from the looks of this was pretty large) because he didn't overperform relative to either of them.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 10:10:10 PM | message detail
I wonder who's sprite will appeal more to voters next round: Mario's or Luigi's.
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