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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:40:15 PM | message detail
I *really* like X here. Trends have not only been subdued overall, but Mario character shifts from day to night have been downright pathetic. If X builds up a substantial lead overnight, I can't see him folding enough to let Mario knock it down.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:40:47 PM | message detail
60 vote gain by X

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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 9:40:50 PM | message detail
MARIO YOU SUCK

man, I wanted to pick X > Mario today. ah well.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:40:56 PM | message detail
...Wow. Couple more of those, X!

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:40:58 PM | message detail
and by that I mean ballgame
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/22/2008 9:41:02 PM | message detail
TRENDS HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY REALLY POLARIZING MATCHS LIKE FROG/AXEL!

LOOK AT SANDBAG/MAGUS AND TELL ME TRENDS ARE SUBDUED!
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 9:41:26 PM | message detail
Mega Man is really frontloaded. I doubt he can take it. Think Mega Man/Samus's first encounter last year, that's probably about what happens here.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/22/2008 9:41:42 PM | message detail
And like I said earlier, I have a feeling this is all a result of Zelda resisting the beating she deserves.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 9:42:03 PM | message detail
X isn't necessarily the same as Mega Man. he might have a better day vote.

still like Mario here.
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Majin Lou | Posted 10/22/2008 9:42:12 PM | message detail
X is killing him.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:42:17 PM | message detail
You took the words outta my mouth Black Turtle. If trends had died, Magus would not have lost to Hogger and Sandbag.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:42:18 PM | message detail
Yeah how about that Fenix barely gaining in the day against FF4

that's about enough of not ignoring Turtle for the rest of the contest season anyway
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/22/2008 9:42:20 PM | message detail
X: Time to get serious...

Everytime Mario cuts, X drinks an E-Tank and gains about 70 votes in the next update..


Crazy...
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Yesmar | Posted 10/22/2008 9:42:51 PM | message detail
And also, here are all the 1st place "favorites" last round. It's pretty split between over and underperforming. Nothing there really points towards favorites disappointing by any dramatic extent:

Underperforming:
Link
Mega Man X
Vincent
Crono
Mega Man
Snake?
Cloud
Master Chief
Sonic
Sephiroth

Non underperforming:
Luigi
Bowser
Mario
Samus
Ganondorf
Mewtwo
Squall
Leon
Dante?
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 9:43:10 PM | message detail
Rydia's hotness makes her a day vote fiend, duh.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 9:43:16 PM | message detail
Yeah. Probably can't call the match yet, knowing how regular Mega Man works in these things.

If he keeps getting updates like that though....
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paraboxx | Posted 10/22/2008 9:43:34 PM | message detail
I can't believe I didn't even pick this upset next round, let alone this one.

Why, X, why!?
Why didn't I have more faith!?
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:44:08 PM | message detail
Rydia's hotness makes her a day vote fiend, duh.

Point.

Luigi/LIQUID SNAKE then.
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Panthera | Posted 10/22/2008 9:44:17 PM | message detail
Uh...Mega Man 9 boosting things named Mega Man (hence Zero not winning) to epic levels plus Brawl deboost on Mario and site shift away from Nintendo and for last round, first round joke votes more prominent than in others plus voter recognition of first place making favourites underperform...

Given how odd it is trying to justify half the things this contest has done, I move that we simply dub anything that doesn't make sense the result of the WTF Fanbase Factor, or WTFFF, the factor that influences people voting in ways that have no logical connection to anything seen before.
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:45:10 PM | message detail
This MMX start is fun to watch and all, but people are getting a little TOO excited given how early this still is. Let's not forget that MM jumped out to a 169 vote lead on Samus last year... before losing by 4,000.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:45:38 PM | message detail
Luigi/LIQUID SNAKE then

Luigi 'Splitting With Bowser' Mario / Liquid Snake

Not to mention MGS day votes all around have been better this contest.

Still a disappointing day vote, but not the best comparison either.

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Tohoya | Posted 10/22/2008 9:45:42 PM | message detail
I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't SFF itself.

What I am saying is that Nintendo doesn't LFF itself. LFF happens because there isn't enough of a fanpool to draw from. Two popular Nintendo series duking it out should have no problems with a sufficient fanpool.


Uh, you'll have to explain your definition of LFF cause this isn't making any sense to me.
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creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 9:46:27 PM | message detail
XD at people trying to deny that Zelda is leeching Mario!

I don't want to sound mean, but...do these people have a clue or what?
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 9:46:34 PM | message detail
This MMX start is fun to watch and all, but people are getting a little TOO excited given how early this still is. Let's not forget that MM jumped out to a 169 vote lead on Samus last year... before losing by 4,000.

He's at 170 now... >_>
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/22/2008 9:47:06 PM | message detail
X is killing Mario now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:47:18 PM | message detail

Ngamer64 (#270)
This MMX start is fun to watch and all, but people are getting a little TOO excited given how early this still is. Let's not forget that MM jumped out to a 169 vote lead on Samus last year... before losing by 4,000.



Yeah but that took hours for Mega Man to do, and Samus was leading him for a while then. This is just total dominance from almost the start, with the lead building.
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Tohoya | Posted 10/22/2008 9:47:30 PM | message detail
awwww yeah MM9 boost screw the doubters

I definitely know it influenced my vote!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:47:47 PM | message detail
XD at people trying to deny that Zelda is leeching Mario!

I don't want to sound mean, but...do these people have a clue or what?


No one is denying that Zelda is leeching Mario. Zelda leeching Mario significantly, or more than Luigi would do...that is where the problem lies.

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HaRRicH | Posted 10/22/2008 9:47:59 PM | message detail
I don't know what'll happen next round, but I suspect Mario will do better than this next round since I think Pokemon and Zelda will be more resilient to SFF than Luigi. That said, Luigi's closer to home for Mario than Zelda/Mudkip...and, honestly, Luigi might try something crazy by the whole "Player Two" syndrome he's got...

...but I'm not so sure on that. I figure whatever happens this match will happen again next round, Liquid be damned.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:48:00 PM | message detail
Luigi 'Splitting With Bowser' Mario / Liquid Snake

Not to mention MGS day votes all around have been better this contest.

Still a disappointing day vote, but not the best comparison either.


It's not about the split - Liquid should have still fallen hard relative to ALL the Nintendo crew. Instead, he barely lost ground.

As for the rest of the MGS crew, you've got Solid who has SSBB power (and Big Boss who utilizes the same thing via proxy)... and then two pretty disappointing days in Raiden and Ocelot. Certainly nothing to indicate Liquid would have done so well against last year's Luigi.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:48:51 PM | message detail
Mega Man X > Liquid

BANK ON IT
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smitelf | Posted 10/22/2008 9:48:53 PM | message detail
I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't SFF itself.

What I am saying is that Nintendo doesn't LFF itself. LFF happens because there isn't enough of a fanpool to draw from. Two popular Nintendo series duking it out should have no problems with a sufficient fanpool.


Pool of fans for Mario < Pool of fans for Mario + Zelda, hence (part of) why Mario and Zelda LFF each other less than Mario and Luigi.
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 9:48:56 PM | message detail
XD at people trying to deny that Zelda is leeching Mario!

Explain Knuckles not doing any better than he should've last round, then.

People who think Zelda is going to hurt Mario more than friggin Luigi need to get a clue about how SFF works.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:49:10 PM | message detail
and then two pretty disappointing days in Raiden

aww hell naw
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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 9:49:11 PM | message detail
let's do this with numbers:

I don't think Luigi would get 20% of the vote here, which is what Zelda has. Mario and Luigi overlap more, but Zelda is more SFF-resistant.

basically, for all you terminology whores: Mario would be LFF'd more by Luigi but would SFF him more as well, making it about the same.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:49:22 PM | message detail
Link/Mario/Sephiroth/Vincent should be sufficient proof of Nintendo LFF, if you don't take yesterday's match or today's as evidence. While being LFF'd by Vincent, Sephiroth still got within 5% or so of Link, because Mario stood up to Link SFF incredibly well.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 9:49:58 PM | message detail
Luigi vs Mario next round....

Come on Luigi > Mario! The superior brother deserves to win that one!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:50:21 PM | message detail
Mario stood up to Link SFF incredibly well.

yeah which brings me to my next point of WHY CAN'T HE DO JACK TO ZELDA
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creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 9:50:37 PM | message detail
No one is denying that Zelda is leeching Mario. Zelda leeching Mario significantly, or more than Luigi would do...that is where the problem lies.

Huh. I thought I read someone say that she wasn't. No one did?

Anyway, yeah, it's quite possible Luigi will hurt Mario worse. That is, of course, what everyone's first instinct would be.

I just thought though that with Zelda holding up well, and Luigi very likely to utterly fold, Zelda might hurt Mario more.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:50:53 PM | message detail
I don't think Luigi would get 20% of the vote here, which is what Zelda has. Mario and Luigi overlap more, but Zelda is more SFF-resistant.

basically, for all you terminology whores: Mario would be LFF'd more by Luigi but would SFF him more as well, making it about the same.


You assumption relies on Zelda overlapping heavily with Mario.

It's not happening. Not last round, not this round. Zelda and Mario share the same company, but still have pretty unique fanbases.

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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 9:51:17 PM | message detail
Pool of fans for Mario < Pool of fans for Mario + Zelda, hence (part of) why Mario and Zelda LFF each other less than Mario and Luigi.

That was my point, yeah. Mario can LFF itself fine, but significant damage from independent Nintendo series I'm a bit skeptical of.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:51:35 PM | message detail
Man I wish Bowser just advanced then this would all be mute of who would be first next round
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creativename | Posted 10/22/2008 9:52:14 PM | message detail
...and, honestly, Luigi might try something crazy by the whole "Player Two" syndrome he's got...

I would LOVE for this to happen :)

Luigi holding up to Mario would be all kinds of super-awesome.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/22/2008 9:52:37 PM | message detail
You assumption relies on Zelda overlapping heavily with Mario.

okay I'm done here
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/22/2008 9:53:06 PM | message detail
yeah which brings me to my next point of WHY CAN'T HE DO JACK TO ZELDA

Because the Mario series and the Zelda series are not connected at the hip. They're both large enough to have distinct fans on both sides, despite both being Nintendo.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/22/2008 9:53:08 PM | message detail
Too bad we didn't get Luigi / Bowser / Mario / Yoshi! And we were so close to getting 3 of them together too!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/22/2008 9:53:21 PM | message detail
Speaking of next round, Liquid should do pretty well - everyone who's played MGS knows his polygon model. He'll be going up against three characters with AWESOME sprites, but that's about as good as it gets for MGS in the third round.
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Lopen | Posted 10/22/2008 9:53:43 PM | message detail
Honestly, I don't see why anyone would think Luigi is just going to roll over for Mario, anyway. Luigi does pretty well in those favorite Mario character polls, and proportionally (meaning taking into consideration Mario's initial strength advantage) he might've SFFed Bowser as well as Mario did yesterday.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 10/22/2008 9:53:49 PM | message detail
Looks like Mario might not make the finals this year.

While it seems that X>Mario might be possible, how much a vote lead would X need before the day vote begins?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/22/2008 9:54:27 PM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#297)
Speaking of next round, Liquid should do pretty well - everyone who's played MGS knows his polygon model. He'll be going up against three characters with AWESOME sprites, but that's about as good as it gets for MGS in the third round.



Thinking about this... think that Marios old NES or SNES sprite would do better against X's sprite?
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