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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 606

UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/21/2008 8:32:21 PM | message detail
LIGHTING IN A BOTTLE, EARTHQUAKE IN A CAN~!

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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"A joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners." -Moltar ~*ST*~
NP: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Mother 3, Spore
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2008 8:32:49 PM | message detail
Luigi time

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/21/2008 8:35:44 PM | message detail
Ulti, who out of Luigi and Bowser do you think has the advantage? Bowser's pic kicks all kinds of ass, but I'm not so sure on him since he seems to have disappointed after the match with Snake in 2005. In fact, I think the "I FEEL ASLEEP!" was from Bowser's end.
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Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 10/21/2008 8:39:16 PM | message detail
Bowser is SFF'ing Luigi. Bank on it.
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Tennessee Titans 6-0.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2008 8:40:02 PM | message detail
who cares about lametendo let's do this liquid
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Moltar Status: augh
Luigi/Liquid/Bowser/Phoenix - Bracket: Luigi > Bowser - Vote: Liquid (103/144)
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/21/2008 8:40:23 PM | message detail
Nobody has my Bowser > Liquid pick =\
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Solid_Mike86 | Posted 10/21/2008 8:41:15 PM | message detail
I have Bowser > Liquid this round.
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Tennessee Titans 6-0.
Asuir | Posted 10/21/2008 8:41:25 PM | message detail
Liquid better be winning this x.x
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Ftw!
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2008 8:41:25 PM | message detail
Man Ocelot scared a lot of people

darn you Jill
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/21/2008 8:41:45 PM | message detail
Liquid will do this. You'll see, he'll show you! *HEHEHEHEHEHEHE*
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107/136 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Lucario > Marth | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
ZFS | Posted 10/21/2008 8:42:07 PM | message detail
who cares about lametendo let's do this liquid

let's get one right gamefaqs

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/21/2008 8:42:46 PM | message detail
bowser > Luigi in power hour, then Liquid takes the lead after power hour and builds a huge lead over night
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paraboxx | Posted 10/21/2008 8:44:56 PM | message detail
Nobody has my Bowser > Liquid pick =\

I do! I do!!

...you probably shouldn't feel better about that though
smitelf | Posted 10/21/2008 8:47:16 PM | message detail
Bowser > Liquid is probably more likely than Luigi > Liquid, tbqh. I feel like I have a pretty good handle on where Luigi is, but Bowser has the potential to be surprising.
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smitelf | Posted 10/21/2008 8:48:26 PM | message detail
^ Just to be clear, though, I still think Luigi will beat Bowser. I'd say the most likely is Liquid > Luigi due to SFF, though Liquid's pic makes Luigi > Liquid not look TOO bad. Still, I say if anyone pulls something surprising in this match, it'll be Bowser.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2008 8:48:50 PM | message detail
Bowser has the potential to disappoint. He has done absolutely nothing since his match with Snake 3 years ago.

Not saying Luigi is a lock to beat him, but the ball is in Luigi's court. This is Bowser's match to lose.
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smitelf | Posted 10/21/2008 8:52:35 PM | message detail
Not saying Luigi is a lock to beat him, but the ball is in Luigi's court. This is Bowser's match to lose.

I think you mean to say that this is Luigi's match to lose? That's more consistent with the content of your post. And I agree that Bowser hasn't been at all impressive lately, which is why I think Luigi will win - but Bowser is the more likely of the two to be underestimated here as well, i.e. he has a wider range for success/failure than Luigi.
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Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08!
hellfire104 | Posted 10/21/2008 8:56:58 PM | message detail
no well written predictions this time?
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Point Total: 109/136, 80% correct Rank 139th
Today: Lucario > Marth
Zenithian Legend | Posted 10/21/2008 8:57:01 PM | message detail
I think we'll see Bowser just benefited from weak competition in Round 1.

Look for Luigi > Liquid as the final outcome today, with a slim possibility of Liquid > Luigi if enough votes are leached by Bowser.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2008 8:57:25 PM | message detail
Yeah, my bad.
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/21/2008 8:57:59 PM | message detail
no well written predictions this time?

See other topic though BT still has to post his.
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Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls
Character Battle 2008: Points 101/136 Today's Match: Lucario > Niko
Lopen | Posted 10/21/2008 8:59:53 PM | message detail
Liquid's going down with that pic, book it.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 2 - Raiden/Big Boss/Kirby.
Target: 48%. Kain Stronger than Kirby & Big Boss!?!? Believe
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2008 9:00:28 PM | message detail
woo late start
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Moltar Status: augh
Luigi/Liquid/Bowser/Phoenix - Bracket: Luigi > Bowser - Vote: Liquid (103/144)
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/21/2008 9:00:46 PM | message detail
We get one of these every year.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/21/2008 9:00:51 PM | message detail
WHOA LIQUID WITH 40% RIGHT OFF THE START
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Today's prediction: Luigi 28.92% - LIQUID!? 28.83% - Bowser 27.32% - Phoenix 14.93%
Status:
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2008 9:00:51 PM | message detail
...

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
therealmnm | Posted 10/21/2008 9:01:05 PM | message detail
Come on Bacon dammit
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/21/2008 9:01:21 PM | message detail
It would happen with this match.
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Demyx is better than Axel.
trannyscience | Posted 10/21/2008 9:01:23 PM | message detail
COME ON ALTAIR
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/21/2008 9:01:32 PM | message detail
...Its late
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2008 9:01:43 PM | message detail
Why is it always a match *I* anticipate that starts late ooh is it up yet <_<
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smitelf | Posted 10/21/2008 9:01:57 PM | message detail
Nooo I have to go to bed, and I wanted to see the first 5 mins at least :(
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Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08!
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/21/2008 9:02:08 PM | message detail
Round 2

Division 2- Semifinal 1

Bowser


Somewhat impressive last round, now he actually has some competition

Liquid Snake

Somewhat impressive last round, that can be chalked to Luigi though

Luigi

Somewhat disappointing last round, that can be chalked up to Liquid though

Phoenix Wright

He's going to get creamed

Analysis:

Not much to say here. The theory is that Bowser/Luigi SFF will let Liquid slip through, but given how MGS seemed to fail in every other match last round, it might be a safe bet to say he doesn't advance here. Other than that, pretty much another crapshoot.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Luigi 30%, Bowser 29%, Liquid 26%, Phoenix 15%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Luigi > Bowser
TuRtLe's Vote: Bowser
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/21/2008 9:02:23 PM | message detail
I don't know if this is going to help or hurt Phoenix!
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2008 9:02:29 PM | message detail
COME ON ALTAIR

...

YES
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/21/2008 9:03:05 PM | message detail
i think bacon decided to give altair some more time for a comeback
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2008 9:03:09 PM | message detail
IT'S UP!

hot damn bowser
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Moltar Status: augh
Luigi/Liquid/Bowser/Phoenix - Bracket: Luigi > Bowser - Vote: Liquid (103/144)
charmander6000 | Posted 10/21/2008 9:03:34 PM | message detail
Let's get this started.

Go Bowser!
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Character Battle 2008: Points 101/144 Today's Match: Bowser > Luigi
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/21/2008 9:03:41 PM | message detail
Im growing impatient bacon
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Ride Him.
hellfire104 | Posted 10/21/2008 9:03:44 PM | message detail
I like your prediction Turtle. I'd love to see it.
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Point Total: 109/136, 80% correct Rank 139th
Today: Lucario > Marth
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2008 9:03:59 PM | message detail
well then

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
ffmasterjose | Posted 10/21/2008 9:04:06 PM | message detail
It's all part of the plan
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107/136 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Lucario > Marth | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
Master Moltar | Posted 10/21/2008 9:05:04 PM | message detail
time for liquid quotes while we wait

I'M YOU

I'M YOUR SHADOW

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Moltar Status: augh
Luigi/Liquid/Bowser/Phoenix - Bracket: Luigi > Bowser - Vote: Liquid (103/144)
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/21/2008 9:06:04 PM | message detail
I just checked the poll, and it has the same number of votes as it did at midnight, even being 5 minutes later.. Its not counting the votes even though its still up
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2008 9:06:11 PM | message detail
WE HAVE NO PAST, NO FUTURE!

AND EVEN IF WE DID IT WOULDN'T BE TRULY OURS


uh
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/21/2008 9:06:24 PM | message detail
I never realized it before, but that quote reminds me of...

http://www.dan-dare.org/Dan%20Sonic/ShadowTheHedgehogWallpaper800.jpg

*runs from KH*

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/21/2008 9:06:32 PM | message detail
Nm... it just updated but late
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smitelf | Posted 10/21/2008 9:06:55 PM | message detail
I AM YOUR FATHER

/never played MGS
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/21/2008 9:06:59 PM | message detail
I got every ending in that game
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RPGGamer0 | Posted 10/21/2008 9:07:16 PM | message detail
LIQUID !?

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