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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 605

RPGGamer0 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:06:24 PM | message detail
Marth by 1 at the freeze. Close the polls!

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/20/2008 9:07:50 PM | message detail
Tag
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"A joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners." -Moltar ~*ST*~
NP: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Mother 3, Spore
RPGuy96 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:11:59 PM | message detail
Huge update for the Duke, but Prince Marth still managed to increase wrt Altair. I'm liking Marth's chances of placing a little more...come on now, don't let Altair cut you.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/20/2008 9:12:09 PM | message detail
So Zack vs. Duke, who ya got

Before you answer, remember Duke's mantra.

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Bracket:
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:12:41 PM | message detail
Let's go Duke Milkem.
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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2008 9:12:42 PM | message detail
Holy crap, Duke.

Keep up the pain, Balls of steel for R3!
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ZFS | Posted 10/20/2008 9:12:43 PM | message detail
Zack vs. Duke really

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TheRye | Posted 10/20/2008 9:12:48 PM | message detail
I'm looking at 8/8 in this match. Beautiful
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/20/2008 9:12:50 PM | message detail
I don't think Duke has a chance at Zack next round... This is the kind of image he'll be sporting: http://www.student.tue.nl/p/f.a.m.smeijers/sfp/pic/duke1ani.gif
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:01 PM | message detail
link > marth yes
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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:04 PM | message detail
Er, R4, rather.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:09 PM | message detail
Zack.

lol if Marth gets second I'll get four points. lol this score system.

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107/136 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Lucario > Marth | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:17 PM | message detail
I get 2 points on this match

Hail to the King Baby
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:25 PM | message detail
ahem

http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/06/13/the_best_games_never_published/dukenukem.jpg

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:28 PM | message detail
R3 is sprite round, right? Hard to argue against Zack...

See Duke, this is what I expected when I took you over Alucard way back when. <_< (does anyone think Duke could edge Alucard in this format? give him this pic for sake of argument)
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:32 PM | message detail
Heh! I always thought Altair's R1 performance was weird. And like I said, people were overrating Altair over what was likely a fluke performance.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:44 PM | message detail
How in the hell does Duke manage to stay decently powerful despite having done nothing for a good decade?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:55 PM | message detail
Oh god wait did Duke seriously get DNF box art?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/20/2008 9:13:58 PM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#015)
R3 is sprite round, right? Hard to argue against Zack...

See Duke, this is what I expected when I took you over Alucard way back when. <_< (does anyone think Duke could edge Alucard in this format? give him this pic for sake of argument)



Yeah, and Duke has a sprite that like nobody recognizes from his original games =\
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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:01 PM | message detail
Kefka > Marth pays dividends for me here !!
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 2 - Raiden/Big Boss/Kirby.
Target: 48%. Kain Stronger than Kirby & Big Boss!?!? Believe
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:16 PM | message detail
Unfortinately, Duke does not beat an FF7 character.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:24 PM | message detail
Alucard shows nothing but signs of decreasing. Duke...looks better than he did last year.

It's a possibility.

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Bracket:
http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10
MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:25 PM | message detail
How in the hell does Duke manage to stay decently powerful despite having done nothing for a good decade?

Duke Nukem Forever jokes
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:35 PM | message detail
How in the hell does Duke manage to stay decently powerful despite having done nothing for a good decade?

That's what I'd like to know!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:37 PM | message detail
Hey Black Turtle, still doubting Duke?
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/20/2008 9:14:55 PM | message detail
woah lucario really sucks <_<
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:15 PM | message detail
I... I...

I don't need much convincing to vote Duke Nukem over Link next round.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:16 PM | message detail
Duke wins. Marth should have the advantage over Altair for the ASV, but once the power hour ends, he won't be in favorable territory until then probably.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 108/140 --- T-215 (58 way)
Bracket: Kefka > Marth --- Vote: Marth
trannyscience | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:20 PM | message detail
yeah, Duke > Altair's happening here, I think.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:33 PM | message detail
See, this is why I said that about not judging Altair after just one match yesterday.

(...yeah. Because I totally saw this coming.)
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:38 PM | message detail
How in the hell does Duke manage to stay decently powerful despite having done nothing for a good decade?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWuteFLUPSY

Thats why


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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:42 PM | message detail
Meh I'm only going to get the same score as those who got Lucario > Marth. Why didn't I figure that Lucario would LFF Marth enough?
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:44 PM | message detail
marth vs. altair we're doing this
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Moltar Status: augh
Marth/Duke/Altair/Lucario - Bracket: Lucario > Niko - Vote: Lucario (103/136)
ZFS | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:48 PM | message detail
aw yeah Altair stallin'

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:51 PM | message detail
ALTAIR STALL

k Duke > Altair confirmed let's all go to bed
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:52 PM | message detail
Altair stalling Marth

Yeah, it's gonna be over soon
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/20/2008 9:15:56 PM | message detail
Altair working on that comeback
gogogogo
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Today's prediction: Altair 33.85% - Duke 25.99% - Martha 23.90% - Lolcario 16.26%
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smitelf | Posted 10/20/2008 9:16:02 PM | message detail
I'm so wishing I didn't change my original Oracle prediction for this match <_<
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:16:07 PM | message detail
I don't need much convincing to vote Duke Nukem over Link next round.

Duke Milkem for Round 4 pic BELIEVE
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vcharon | Posted 10/20/2008 9:16:19 PM | message detail
Wtf... ugh.

Come on Altair, what happened?!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/20/2008 9:16:56 PM | message detail
Marth cant even beat Altair in the PH? Id say he's done.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:16:57 PM | message detail
I still expect good things of Marth come day time, but what do I know?

Moral of the story is: Lucario and every post-first gen non-memetic Pokemon is a special kind of suck.
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therealmnm | Posted 10/20/2008 9:17:23 PM | message detail
I call Duke Nukem 3D XBLA boost!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/20/2008 9:17:56 PM | message detail
*goes to work on a R3 Milkem pic*

He might accept it!

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smitelf | Posted 10/20/2008 9:17:58 PM | message detail
I don't think it's fair to say that Altair is flopping. I think it's more that our expectations were inflated. Sure, he got a high percentage in his first round match, but his competition was a pack of losers. He's still probably around Prince of Persia, maybe a bit higher even.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/20/2008 9:18:03 PM | message detail
Bleh, this is the THIRD match in two years where a Pokemon possibly LFFs a favourite of mine out of advancing (Pikachu and Luigi, Pikachu and Ike, Marth and Lucario).
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/20/2008 9:18:03 PM | message detail
I remember when people thought that Nintendo would get 50%+ in this match

sakuraiiiii
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/20/2008 9:18:06 PM | message detail
Well, looks like a 0 point match for me.

lol failtendo and fail theft failto

I'll never understand Duke Nukem. His games suck, and his character is the biggest pile of cliche crap ever.
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Lopen | Posted 10/20/2008 9:18:11 PM | message detail
I'm so wishing I didn't change my original Oracle prediction for this match <_<

I'm so wishing I DID. My gut was Altair owning face, then I write my AC Write-up and was like "Altair's not going to win" Oracle still has Altair with like 34% though :/
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/20/2008 9:18:16 PM | message detail
Duke getting a banner boost!
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