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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/19/2008 9:29:21 AM | message detail
RE/FF overlap last year? The Random RE Boost we seem to be seeing?

I just want to know where this Random RE Boost is coming from.

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wavedash101 | Posted 10/19/2008 9:31:40 AM | message detail
Kickass TGS trailer
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/19/2008 9:34:49 AM | message detail
If there's FF/RE overlap, there sure as heck is FF/MGS overlap (heck, looking at the game contest, you can make an argument for all three in the span of two matches). I'd chalk it more up to Cloud acting like a black hole last year and making the more hardcore fanbases more important - kinda like Riku/Ryu H changing hands when Snake was introduced into the match. Riku's fanbase being disproportionately more enthusiastic probably made the difference against casual bait like Ryu H.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/19/2008 9:35:28 AM | message detail
Jill's strength has always been all over the place, trying to find a valid explanation for it has never proved fruitful.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/19/2008 9:35:56 AM | message detail
And again there's no excuse for losing to jokefodder

heck we learned last year you don't even need a GAME to beat jokefodder
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 9:38:22 AM | message detail
What joke fodder did Jill lose to?
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Yesmar | Posted 10/19/2008 9:39:47 AM | message detail
Cloud sucking up a lot of percentage makes sense, but then how come Ocelot couldn't do anything against Fenix the next round? Ocelot got an even worse percentage in that round, so it's not like Fenix just beat Ocelot's base or anything.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 9:41:16 AM | message detail
WEll regardless, I think this match is over. Jill is looking better at day then Ocelot
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/19/2008 9:44:16 AM | message detail
I alluded to it in my sig, but Fenix was the one entity in that match that didn't have ANY overlap with the others. When Xbox - or anything, really - stands alone, it shines.

This year he instead got put in a much more diverse fourpack - New Square, Mortal Kombat, and Jugs. Didn't look nearly as good.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/19/2008 9:46:23 AM | message detail
Yeah, an Ocelot comeback would be nice, but last year they were pretty even throughout the day. Now that Cloud's not there it's going to go one of two ways - either they stay even and Ocelot gains little ground, or Jill continues to pull away.

Rats, I really wanted to end Round 1 with full points :(

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97/124 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Kratos > Revolver Ocelot | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
Master Moltar | Posted 10/19/2008 9:51:23 AM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#303)
If there's FF/RE overlap, there sure as heck is FF/MGS overlap (heck, looking at the game contest, you can make an argument for all three in the span of two matches). I'd chalk it more up to Cloud acting like a black hole last year and making the more hardcore fanbases more important - kinda like Riku/Ryu H changing hands when Snake was introduced into the match. Riku's fanbase being disproportionately more enthusiastic probably made the difference against casual bait like Ryu H.



This makes the most sense...but still. Ocelot's had MGS4 and Jill's had nothing (well Umbrella Chronicles yeah, but c'mon now). Even Chris and Leon had reasons to overperform, and Jill has nothing. Last year I took Ocelot > Jill because I thought FF > MGS > RE on the SFF tiers, and the hardcore MGS fanbase would pull through then, but removing Cloud and putting in another popular Sony character does this much for Jill?!

god damn gamefaqs you voters make no sense
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Heavy/Jill/Kratos/Ocelot - Bracket: Kratos > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (97/124)
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 9:53:44 AM | message detail
This is what I'm thinking. Maybe RE4s popularity has gotten more people to play the older RE games, so they know more about Jill and Chris now?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/19/2008 9:56:27 AM | message detail
Or maybe Ocelot got a curse over him that he can't do well if he's in the last match of round 1.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/19/2008 10:03:34 AM | message detail
So...yeah. Not much else to say about this match, and all that can be said for Zidane/Zack has been said. Hmm...

Well, this is the third day in a row where a character with jugs has done well. And...yeah.

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swirIdude | Posted 10/19/2008 10:06:41 AM | message detail
That would be funny if 2008 has come full circle to 2002 and TJF is important.
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FFDragon | Posted 10/19/2008 10:08:45 AM | message detail
That Jill picture doesn't even highlight TJF, so I refuse to believe it.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/19/2008 10:09:51 AM | message detail
*smacks head*

We forgot that Jill Valentine was featured in one of the Resident Evil films. That explains everything!


....kidding of course.

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97/124 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Kratos > Revolver Ocelot | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/19/2008 10:10:07 AM | message detail
Kratos looks mighty fine for the next round. Mighty fine.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/19/2008 10:10:50 AM | message detail
(although he'll never look as might fine as Jill, RE fans ^5 you know what I'm talkin about)
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/19/2008 10:11:10 AM | message detail
Really? Not being able to break 60% on Jill Valentine isn't exactly inspiring confidence in me...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 10:12:36 AM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#320)
Really? Not being able to break 60% on Jill Valentine isn't exactly inspiring confidence in me...



He's going up fast with day vote, he'll end up with at least 37%
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/19/2008 10:14:16 AM | message detail
He's winning more easily than I thought coming in, although maybe all the stats topic Ocelot-bolstering gave me some paranoia. But trust me, the Seph/Tifa SFF will rear it's head next round. I'll make you a Jill sandwich if I'm wrong.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 10:14:53 AM | message detail
I had Kratos at 38%, and Ocelot at 28%, so he's not doing as well as I had hoped sadly =\
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/19/2008 10:27:23 AM | message detail
Wow I've been gone for two hours and Kratos has gone up by almost a full percent.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 95/124 Today's Match: Kratos > Ocelot
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 10:32:14 AM | message detail

charmander6000 (#324)
Wow I've been gone for two hours and Kratos has gone up by almost a full percent.



he be crazy during day dawg
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/19/2008 10:43:29 AM | message detail
I'd like to propose a toast to Ocelot, he's giving characters that we once thought were washed up a second chance.

Cheers!

Now for Zack/Zidane. Zack got 57.43% on Wario and Zidane got 53.36% on Shadow. Personally I think Zidane has a great chance on Zack and even if he doesn't win it will at least be close. I'm not expecting Zack to SFF Zidane since I don't see Zack fans being hardcore and they only voted for him since they were apathetic to the other characters.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 95/124 Today's Match: Kratos > Ocelot
Majin Lou | Posted 10/19/2008 11:38:23 AM | message detail
This topic needs more grades.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/19/2008 11:59:18 AM | message detail
Ocelot: F-

Who was the biggest flop of the first round? In my opinion, the prime contenders are Shadow and Ocelot, for losing (in Ocelot's case, probably losing) matches that they had no business losing. Lucario's up there as well, but at least he actually beat Isaac. Other notables include Diddy, Kefka and Niko, DK, Zero, Ness, Kirby, and maybe Ramza.
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EternalxCourage | Posted 10/19/2008 12:13:53 PM | message detail
Now for Zack/Zidane. Zack got 57.43% on Wario and Zidane got 53.36% on Shadow. Personally I think Zidane has a great chance on Zack and even if he doesn't win it will at least be close. I'm not expecting Zack to SFF Zidane since I don't see Zack fans being hardcore and they only voted for him since they were apathetic to the other characters.

Zack is going to destroy Zidane.
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Lopen | Posted 10/19/2008 12:15:22 PM | message detail
Lucario is easily flop of the round. I mean, sure, Altair surprised, but he scraped by Lucario when even most Altair pickers expected him to win by like 10% at least.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2008 12:23:22 PM | message detail
Some people expected Lucario to be equal with Mewtwo.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2008 12:25:04 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd (#324)
Some people expected Lucario to be equal with Mewtwo.

Those people were out of their mind.

That being said, Lucario should have done better than that. He's certainly more of a turd than Ocelot is. At least Ocelot's keeping it semi-respectable against Kratos here.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/19/2008 12:33:24 PM | message detail

MegatokyoEd (#331)
Some people expected Lucario to be equal with Mewtwo.



Let's not confuse Altair's assumed weakness with Lucario's assumed strength. Most assumed Altair would be high fodder, while Lucario would be a low-midcarder. I don't think anyone thought Lucario would be as strong as Mewtwo, or else we would have seen even higher percentages for Lucario.
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Heavy/Jill/Kratos/Ocelot - Bracket: Kratos > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (97/124)
MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2008 12:35:36 PM | message detail
A lot of peoples oracles had Lucario over 40% or near it.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 12:36:47 PM | message detail
Altair noble 9 breaker confirmed

Altair > Link baby
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transience | Posted 10/19/2008 1:01:21 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46056629 woo
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Chaotic Mind | Posted 10/19/2008 1:09:39 PM | message detail
Psh, don't ridiculous Albion. It's going to be Zack>Link at the end of the division, once Zidane is out of the way.

Tomorrow's match is going be:
Link 35%
Zack 30%
Zidane 20%
Wario 15%

Book it.
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Calintares | Posted 10/19/2008 1:13:54 PM | message detail
I have asked before, but received no answer.

Mario/Luigi/Wario/Waluigi

would Mario break 60? would Waluigi break 5?
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charmander6000 | Posted 10/19/2008 1:22:10 PM | message detail
Star of the Round: Ryu Hayabusa

Honourable Mentions: Altair, Gordon Freeman, Captain Falcon, WCC, Chris, Squall, Mewtwo, Big Boss, Kain, Leon, Rydia, Tifa, Jill

Turd of the Round: Lucario

Horrible Mentions: Shadow, Diddy Kong, Donkey Kong, Olimar, Ness, Lucas, Master Chief, Riku, Magus
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Character Battle 2008: Points 95/124 Today's Match: Kratos > Ocelot
transience | Posted 10/19/2008 1:22:51 PM | message detail
Mario might break 60. Luigi would get 30 though.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 1:25:54 PM | message detail

Chaotic Mind (#337)
Psh, don't ridiculous Albion. It's going to be Zack>Link at the end of the division, once Zidane is out of the way.

Tomorrow's match is going be:
Link 35%
Zack 30%
Zidane 20%
Wario 15%

Book it.



and you're being even sillier then me thinking link isnt gonna get over 50% :P
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2008 1:29:47 PM | message detail
I really don't think Link's going to get 50%. He'll probably get around 46%.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 1:30:23 PM | message detail

MegatokyoEd (#342)
I really don't think Link's going to get 50%. He'll probably get around 46%.



You think he's getting the same percentage he got against Crono, Vincent, and Zero?
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/19/2008 1:31:30 PM | message detail
So Jill did better with the day vote.

So much for another 27 vote finish!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2008 1:32:29 PM | message detail
You forgetting that every Noble Niner has looked horrible? I don't see that changing in round 2.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 1:35:14 PM | message detail

MegatokyoEd (#345)
You forgetting that every Noble Niner has looked horrible? I don't see that changing in round 2.



Noble 9ers looked bad last year also due to people knowing they don't have to vote for them then.

Look at Sephiroths round 1 match last year: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Sephiroth_vs_Meta_Knight_vs_Peach_vs_CATS_2007

Then look at round 2: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Sephiroth_vs_Fox_vs_Meta_Knight_vs_Wario_2007

Seph had tougher competition in round 2 yet did better. Link is likely getting 55% or around that.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 1:37:56 PM | message detail
I mean hell, I wouldn't be shocked if Link got 60% tomorrow. Wario will be getting Luke fon Fabre type of percentage, and Zidane/Zack should LFF a bit to have both of them look similiar to Shadow/Zidanes percentages.
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voltch | Posted 10/19/2008 1:40:36 PM | message detail
you saying four way acts as a limit cap in the early rounds for the top dogs?
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transience | Posted 10/19/2008 1:43:35 PM | message detail
time to sound off -- Sephiroth/Tifa/Kratos/Jill

I like Kratos here bigtime.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/19/2008 1:51:06 PM | message detail

transience (#349)
time to sound off -- Sephiroth/Tifa/Kratos/Jill

I like Kratos here bigtime.



Me too, Jill can hurt Tifas TJF in that round for sure
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