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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 603
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/18/2008 10:08:12 PM | message detail |
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vcharon (#146) You mean guys with totally different trends then todays match? --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/18/2008 10:09:47 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#149) this is what i have been taught --- Moltar Status: augh Heavy/Jill/Kratos/Ocelot - Bracket: Kratos > Ocelot - Vote: Ocelot (97/124) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:10:15 PM | message detail |
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So suddenly FF7 fans are a mindless swarm that vote their characters over all else? I honestly don't see how Zack can have a devoted fanbase at all. You can use the mindless swarm argument for Zidane, which is basically what you're arguing for him to win. It's just a negative way of saying devoted fanbase. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:10:20 PM | message detail |
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Aeris got destroyed when stuck with Squall and Sora. ZIDANE is not Squall and Sora. And Zack is Cloud or something? Answer that in in-game terms and you die. 30% on Sephiroth was better than we thought, yeah, but Zidane's fanbase isn't as large, and Vivi draws from more than FFIX anyway. It doesn't need to be as large when someone like Link is in the poll. You know what? I'm not even debating FFIX's devotedness anymore. It's been proven to be small but extremely loyal at this point. Zidane is not the issue here - Zack is. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/18/2008 10:10:28 PM | message detail |
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Master Moltar (#152) KamikazePotato (#149) this is what i have been taught If Zolom wasn't in a match with another FF7 character, he prolly woulda advanced --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/18/2008 10:10:37 PM | message detail |
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So suddenly FF7 fans are a mindless swarm that vote their characters over all else? Its been that way for awhile <_< --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2008 10:10:39 PM | message detail |
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well if there's a larger percent that has FF7 as their favorite game
compared to Zidane's 17% in that poll, i'm sure Zack is a near
guarantee here. --- *is Dranze* Dedede/Pit/Ryu/Zero - Bracket: Zero > RyuH - Vote: Zero (53/64) |
| Keno316 | Posted 10/18/2008 10:11:22 PM | message detail |
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So...chances Jill leads for the whole match but not by too much and
Ocelot mounts a last hour comeback and beats her by 27 votes? --- "Opinions are like butts, little girl. Everyone's got one and nobody thinks their's stink." -Lunar 2:EB *Claims Kiddy Grade's Eclair & C.C.* |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:11:57 PM | message detail |
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If Jill loses by 27 votes, she gets her own factor. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/18/2008 10:12:07 PM | message detail |
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I wish Ada Wong was back this year just to see what this apparent RE
boost woulda done for a girl who looks like an asian prostitute --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:12:51 PM | message detail |
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You can use the mindless swarm argument for Zidane, which is
basically what you're arguing for him to win. It's just a negative way
of saying devoted fanbase. By mindless swarm I mean fanbase that votes for them just because. FF7 characters do so well because they are well-liked by the fanbase, and because the fanbase is huge. Zack is not well-liked by the fanbase. Or cared about. Or even remembered as anything but that guy from Cloud's trippy memories. If anything, he's going to have to draw on Crisis Core for devoted fans, and I just can't see that happening. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2008 10:13:36 PM | message detail |
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At this point I think Zack may very well be stronger than Aeris, who
would win easily against Zidane. I will say that I think Zidane's
chances are better than Shadow's ever were, but they're still extremely
close to zero. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/18/2008 10:13:38 PM | message detail |
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Another 30 vote Ocelot cut. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:14:06 PM | message detail |
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At this point I think Zack may very well be stronger than Aeris, k, I'm ignoring you until two days from now. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2008 10:14:46 PM | message detail |
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Zack is not well-liked by the fanbase. Or cared about. nobody beats Wario by that much and ISNT well-liked. i'm sure likability isnt a factor anymore. --- *is Dranze* Dedede/Pit/Ryu/Zero - Bracket: Zero > RyuH - Vote: Zero (53/64) |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:14:48 PM | message detail |
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Ocelot seems content just to trade updates with Jill for a while. I mean, I know he loves a good duel, but come on! Zack is not well-liked by the fanbase. Or cared about. Or even remembered as anything but that guy from Cloud's trippy memories. This logic doesn't seem consistent with his first round match. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/18/2008 10:16:02 PM | message detail |
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Zack is not well-liked by the fanbase. Or cared about. Or even remembered as anything but that guy from Cloud's trippy memories. We've seen numerous times that characters not well-liked by their fanbase BOMB. So don't even bring this up. Characters that are not well-liked do not break 40% in a match. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:16:14 PM | message detail |
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Zack did so well in his first-round match because his competition was
hideous and he had the 2nd-biggest pic advantage of the contest. He's lost it for this match. Win or lose, he's simply not going to do nearly as well as what he did in that match. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/18/2008 10:16:14 PM | message detail |
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MarioSuperstar (#165) He's very likable... just I wonder how many people will vote for him when hes against real competition --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| ZFS | Posted 10/18/2008 10:16:19 PM | message detail |
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Zack is not well-liked by the fanbase. Or cared about. This is gonna come back to bite you tomorrow -- it reeks of ' no one cares about Kain.' There's definitely a good chunk of the fanbase that likes Zack a good deal. You can see that glimpses of that around here. --- six bullets. more than enough to kill anything that moves. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/18/2008 10:16:49 PM | message detail |
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MegatokyoEd (#167) Altair isn't really liked by ASsassins creed fanbase... --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2008 10:16:52 PM | message detail |
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Hey, I had Zidane advancing in round 1 too! My biggest concern with
Zack is how he will do without the Buster Sword- we've seen that
pictures can matter a lot, and that sword probably helps Zack
substantially. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/18/2008 10:17:14 PM | message detail |
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I don't think Zack is stronger than Aeris. All Zack really has is
Crisis Core. Aeris is in the spotlight more in FF7 and has a Kingdom
Hearts cameo too. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| Xcarvenger | Posted 10/18/2008 10:17:18 PM | message detail |
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He's going to have less (relatively) devoted fans than Aeris, and she got destroyed last year. FFVII has a pretty similar fanbase with FFVIII imho, so it's not that surprising Squall destroyed Aeris last year, and Cloud/Squall SFF rate is higher than say Cloud/Auron and Sephiroth/Vivi. FFIX has a different smaller fanbase which may or may not be really devoted to its characters. Zack should be fine tomorrow. --- Kweh! Kweh!!! --> http://backloggery.com/main.php?user=xcarvenger For all your board 8 needs: www.board8.wikia.com |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:17:57 PM | message detail |
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This is gonna come back to bite you tomorrow -- it reeks of ' no one
cares about Kain.' There's definitely a good chunk of the fanbase that
likes Zack a good deal. You can see that glimpses of that around here. I had never, not once, not even close seen ANYONE care about Zack before Crisis Core. I saw people care about Kain, and I misjudged him. Zack? Nothing. He's riding on apathy votes. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/18/2008 10:18:06 PM | message detail |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRpKbfrMvNo&fmt=18 --- (|| ' ' ||) Not changing my sig until EBA2/Ouendan 3 is announced. (4/22/08) . /|_|\ http://imgcake.com/img/40/all_eba.jpg |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:18:29 PM | message detail |
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Zack did so well in his first-round match because his competition
was hideous and he had the 2nd-biggest pic advantage of the contest. He's lost it for this match. Win or lose, he's simply not going to do nearly as well as what he did in that match. You can keep blaming the Buster Sword if you want, but people know who Zack is and care about him, especially those who have played Crisis Core. You're basically arguing that people care about Zidane but they don't care about Zack. Say what you want, but Zack's one performance seemed to tell me that people cared about him more than ANY of Zidane's matches has (other than his first round match anyway). For the lead of a PSX FF, he's really weak. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/18/2008 10:19:27 PM | message detail |
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The worst part about this debate is that KP can never be wrong, because he isn't saying Zidane will win. Just that he has a decent shot. He'd have to score < 8% for KP to even look foolish. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:19:36 PM | message detail |
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I had never, not once, not even close seen ANYONE care about Zack before Crisis Core. I liked Zack before Crisis Core. Not too much you could say about him before then though. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:21:14 PM | message detail |
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Fine, then let me rephrase it: Zidane's fans are much more likely not to abandon him in the face of tougher competition. The worst part about this debate is that KP can never be wrong, because he isn't saying Zidane will win. Just that he has a decent shot. And that's all I'm asking. I'm not BT where MM>Snake is suddenly a lock, I'm just trying to prove that people completely discounting Zidane aren't considering everything. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:21:27 PM | message detail |
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And Ocelot, you're drivin' me nuts! 118, 141, 113, 136, 110, 131. That's Jill's lead over the last 25 minutes. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| FFDragon | Posted 10/18/2008 10:21:40 PM | message detail |
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I had never, not once, not even close seen ANYONE care about Zack before Crisis Core. You must not pay much attention to me then. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com//wesker.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:22:19 PM | message detail |
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And I haven't discounted Zidane. In my analysis, I said he's still got a shot, but he's the underdog and deserves to be. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:22:34 PM | message detail |
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You can keep blaming the Buster Sword if you want, Consider the poll in a new light for those who don't care much about any of these characters: Buster Sword vs. Fat Ugly Man vs. Androgynous Male vs. Even More Androgynous Male Yeah, I'm going to blame the Buster Sword somewhat. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| ZFS | Posted 10/18/2008 10:22:58 PM | message detail |
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I'm glad this match is tomorrow. Gotta get this out of the way early. --- six bullets. more than enough to kill anything that moves. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:23:09 PM | message detail |
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...Then why are we arguing? >_> --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:23:38 PM | message detail |
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Ah, that's more like it, Ocelot. Don't fight back this time. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/18/2008 10:23:53 PM | message detail |
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Well, so much for that up and down trend. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 10/18/2008 10:23:59 PM | message detail |
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and hey if zidane wins we can call a random ff9 boost watch out cloud snake's comin' for ya --- six bullets. more than enough to kill anything that moves. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:24:00 PM | message detail |
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Because I don't necessarily agree with your logic. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2008 10:24:03 PM | message detail |
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no offense Kami but i cant help but think you're just grasping for straws for a character you love. i mean honestly it's just Zidane. --- *is Dranze* Dedede/Pit/Ryu/Zero - Bracket: Zero > RyuH - Vote: Zero (53/64) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:24:11 PM | message detail |
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I'm glad this match is tomorrow. Gotta get this out of the way early. Same. Zidane is basically the only character left that I really like that has a chance of doing something special, so I'd rather not spend all of R2 angsting over it. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/18/2008 10:25:37 PM | message detail |
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Whos everyone most looking forward to seeing in round 2 out of
favortism? For me, its how Arthas does against Pikachu/Alucard/Falcon --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/RyanSaotome/rydia.gif http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:25:37 PM | message detail |
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Hey, there's still Vivi! He's probably the favorite at this point! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:26:11 PM | message detail |
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i mean honestly it's just Zidane. He got 18% against Link and Shadow. The 2007 stats have him at around 15.7% on Base Link alone. It's not the same Zidane, one way or another. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/18/2008 10:26:44 PM | message detail |
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I want to see Frog pull off an incredible upset over Ganondorf and
Nightmare with the assistance of Samus SFF and the Brawl Deboost. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/18/2008 10:26:46 PM | message detail |
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I want to see Squall smoke his fourpack again and Tidus somehow beat the Cube... --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:26:59 PM | message detail |
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Vivi was already strong though. Zidane is just coming out of nowhere
with this, and even though he's already vindicated his past losses
somewhat he needs to do even more! --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/18/2008 10:28:02 PM | message detail |
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It's not the same Zidane, one way or another. i'm not buying Zidane going anywhere special yet. he has almost no reason to. --- *is Dranze* Dedede/Pit/Ryu/Zero - Bracket: Zero > RyuH - Vote: Zero (53/64) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/18/2008 10:28:15 PM | message detail |
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I want to see Ike win a match. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
