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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 5:56:27 PM | message detail |
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And considering I made that post before I saw tranny's I think there
can be some agreement as to at least where my groupings are related to
eachother, as the characters inside the groups could change at any time. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 5:58:25 PM | message detail |
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Four-pack of fun! Zelda Vs. Sora Vs. Dante Vs. Master Chief --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:00:12 PM | message detail |
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Hayabusa is too high. Way too high. Hayabusa impressed with his NG2 boost. Zero has no reason to not be at the same level he's been since 2003, especially given his match against Crono last year. Ryu will show us just how much stronger he is this year next round since we have Snake there to gauge him by. Should I even mention that you really, really overrated Zero, or will that be a wasted thought? I felt like I was underrating him, but I couldn't see him beating any of the people ahead of him. Besides, if I'm right about Hayabusa then Zero falls right in line. Sora wouldn't beat Bowser/Yoshi/Luigi. Sora/Dante would be a damn great match, now that I think about it. Despite the fact that his match against Mega Man is more than likely an overperformance because of the recency of KH2, I once again can't see him losing to anybody below him. The fact that some people are calling for Squall > Sora > Yoshi to happen next round only solidifies his position in the upper levels of strength. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:00:50 PM | message detail |
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| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/19/2008 6:00:57 PM | message detail |
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Not sure if someone corrected, but I'm pretty sure that GoW2 was already out when Kratos went against Ryu. http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/data/932295.html --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:02:02 PM | message detail |
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Okay then, it was GoW1 going Greatest Hits that resulted in the boost. And I'd say Sora > Dante comfortably. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/19/2008 6:02:33 PM | message detail |
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Squall Vincent Ganondorf Auron Bowser Tifa Ryu Luigi Yoshi Dante Sora Leon Kirby Zelda Mewtwo Kratos Fox Sub-Zero Master Chief Vivi Ryu Hayabusa yeah --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:03:47 PM | message detail |
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Hayabusa impressed with his NG2 boost. Zero has no reason to not be
at the same level he's been since 2003, especially given his match
against Crono last year. Ryu will show us just how much stronger he is
this year next round since we have Snake there to gauge him by. Mega Man is not at the same level he was at in 2003, so why should his sidekick? And while Hayabusa's match was impressive, it wasn't as good as you're making it out to be. Despite the fact that his match against Mega Man is more than likely an overperformance because of the recency of KH2, I once again can't see him losing to anybody below him. The fact that some people are calling for Squall > Sora > Yoshi to happen next round only solidifies his position in the upper levels of strength. They say that because Sora will most likely withstand SFF from Squall, while Yoshi will be dragged down by Fox. If both matches have an equal amount of SFF, then Squall > Yoshi is the clear cut pick. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/19/2008 6:05:16 PM | message detail |
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Zero's more like Auron to X's Tidus. Only Tidus doesnt fail at life. --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:07:04 PM | message detail |
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Zero was the Bowser to Mario with Mega Man, but now he's like Tidus to
Auron. He disappointed for years now. There's no way he's in that upper
echelon of characters nowadays. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:08:43 PM | message detail |
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Yoshi's only hope is that because Squall is that much stronger than
him, Sora gets beat a lot harder down. But given that he did just as
good on Sonic in round 4 as he did in round 3 last year, it's pretty
safe to say that there is about the same amount of overlap between
SoraxSquall as there is between SnakexSquall --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:12:25 PM | message detail |
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If Hayabusa doesn't do much better against Snake next round compared to
last year, I will concede a Zero drop, but that just makes Crono look
terrible since that match is the first real legitimate read we've had
on Zero since 2004. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/19/2008 6:13:13 PM | message detail |
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Why are people putting Luigi and even Yoshi above Zelda? --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/19/2008 6:14:11 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, still not touching this conversation. Waaay too many character being thrown around for it to be coherent. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:14:33 PM | message detail |
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Zelda and Sora are in that Luigi/Yoshi class. so's Bowser. --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:16:06 PM | message detail |
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Zelda and Sora are in that Luigi/Yoshi class. so's Bowser. Yes, they're all in the same class, but Sora is definitely at the tail end. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:19:46 PM | message detail |
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46% on Mega Man vs. 40% on Sonic (Luigi) suggests otherwise.. though
you could very well be right. I don't try to organize them too much,
just like I hate fighting over the order of
Vincent/Squall/Tifa/Auron/Ganondorf. that one's a little more clear-cut
but you can still fight over it endlessly. Yeah, still not touching this conversation. Waaay too many character being thrown around for it to be coherent. this is an easy to follow conversation if you have knowledge of past matches, and a very good argument as opposed to the usual WHOA UP 15 or fanboy wars that we have a lot of lately. don't blame us if you can't keep up. --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| creativename | Posted 10/19/2008 6:22:32 PM | message detail |
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The severity of the response is proportional to the poor logic it
addresses. And you've been getting it from me quite a bit lately, so
don't act surprised. Really? I don't even post in here that much, so I don't recall getting into it with you. What was that about? Anyway, poor logic? Get out of here. I barely even said anything other than Ocelot doing fairly terrible. Which he is, all considered. Again, I repeat, I think Kratos is quite strong. And likely stronger this year than he's been before. I don't get your absurd animosity at all. Maybe you're just confusing me with someone else or something. Enough of this junk anyway - while we don't have much to go on yet and a lot of variables to consider, who do people think would be considered the favorite nowadays just based on their gut: Kratos or Master Chief? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:24:19 PM | message detail |
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one-on-one, I would take Kratos every time. would have in 2006, I think, and definitely would after GOW2. in four-ways I might go with Chief, I don't know. that R1 performance looks really bad. --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2008 6:25:44 PM | message detail |
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WHOA OCELOT CUT 3 --- CB7 Score: 100/124 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg || http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:26:21 PM | message detail |
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I don't know about you personally, but when I try to decide who beats
who, I just choose the logical choice. Luigi Vs. Sora, yes Sora may be
stronger, but it's freaking Luigi!
Luigi is more known then Sora for sure, and even though both are really
strong, I just can't see Sora beating Luigi/Yoshi/Bowser because
logically, I know more people like/know of the triangle more then Sora,
despite what stats may say. And yeah, I'm just going to refer to those three as the triangle from now on. Much more simpler that way. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:28:45 PM | message detail |
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I'd probably pick Luigi too.. but I dunno, after seeing what I've seen
this year I'm feeling like Luigi fell back to his old levels. --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:29:21 PM | message detail |
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Kratos or Master Chief? One on one, Chief, but I definitely see myself regretting it later on. Four-way last year, Chief easily. This year... probably Chief again. I would have to see the next round match to see if Chief suffered like the NN (as in, people knew they were going to win so they decided to vote for the underdog), or if he just lost a lot of support for whatever reason. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:30:49 PM | message detail |
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I'd probably pick Luigi too.. but I dunno, after seeing what I've
seen this year I'm feeling like Luigi fell back to his old levels. It seems as if all the stronger characters have fallen back, for whatever reason. Hopefully that trend doesn't continue into the next few rounds, because I could really see some screwy results in the next few rounds. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:30:59 PM | message detail |
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well, if you want to go with previous results, 2007 Ocelot is probably
above 2007 Raiden and Kratos is beating Ocelot down a lot easier than
Chief did. I dunno what to make of those matches. Kratos strikes me as
just being more popular on this website straight-up but Chief's got
that potentially weird fanbase that affects fourways. --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| creativename | Posted 10/19/2008 6:32:39 PM | message detail |
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in four-ways I might go with Chief, I don't know. I agree that four-ways are more unpredictable, but I think Chief's last performance shows that his strength last year very likely had little or almost nothing to do with the format. That has probably turned out to be mostly a myth. I think the most probable thing in retrospect is that he was just a beast last year, because of Halo 3 hype being at its max, and XBox hate being more of a non-factor than in past years. He may have benefited some from the format, but the large majority of his extra strength was likely legit. Hype wearing off de-boosts seem to be the theme this year. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:33:36 PM | message detail |
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Zelda completely stunk it up last year, and looking at past contests,
the only thing EVER to suggest she could hang with Luigi/Sora etc was
the female bracket. If you feel comfortable taking her strength solely
from her Samus match, go right ahead. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:34:29 PM | message detail |
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I dunno what to make of those matches. Kratos strikes me as just
being more popular on this website straight-up but Chief's got that
potentially weird fanbase that affects fourways. That's why I would regret picking Chief > Kratos one on one. Logically, it seems like the right choice given that this site is now more of a casual friendly site. But then again, Chief always under performs in one on one matches, so it's a tough call. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:34:44 PM | message detail |
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Zelda completely stunk it up last year, and looking at past
contests, the only thing EVER to suggest she could hang with Luigi/Sora
etc was the female bracket. you weren't here for 2005, were you? --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:35:34 PM | message detail |
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For the last time, Chief doesn't perform "better" because of the
format. We have seen no evidence of this, since last year we had a big
fat Halo 3 there, and this year he was against an untested character
and someone with reason to boost through the roof. And given Ocelot's
pitiful showing here, I think it's safe to say Raiden isn't as strong
as that match would tell you. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/19/2008 6:36:49 PM | message detail |
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Time for some Zelda > Snake hype! --- Bowser > Snake hype was way cooler and almost paid off |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:37:17 PM | message detail |
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She scored what, 45% on the ugliest Snake we've ever seen? The same
Snake that was the ass end of the Noble Nine and almost lost to Bowser? --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:37:37 PM | message detail |
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remember the picture outrage? both sides were attacking each other over which was worse. good times. --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:38:36 PM | message detail |
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Say what you will about that picture, but she got recognizable OoT art
and Snake got an ugly monstrosity that I still have no idea where it
came from. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:39:52 PM | message detail |
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| ZFS | Posted 10/19/2008 6:41:36 PM | message detail |
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metal gear acid argh --- six bullets. more than enough to kill anything that moves. |
| KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/19/2008 6:43:01 PM | message detail |
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Leave it to HM to know exactly where the pic came from. --- CB7 Score: 100/124 http://www.rosebride.com/lyn/otakon2k6/chronotrigger.jpg || http://64.81.113.250/a-kon-12/000177.jpg |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 6:43:43 PM | message detail |
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he didn't back then, he hated Metal Gear Solid back then awww yeah --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:49:14 PM | message detail |
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Looking through the pictures from 2005, damn those were great. The
Mario/Crono one where the two are just facing eachother was great given
the history between the two. Shame the match didn't live up to the hype. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| ZFS | Posted 10/19/2008 6:49:51 PM | message detail |
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I think the most probable thing in retrospect is that he was just a
beast last year, because of Halo 3 hype being at its max, and XBox hate
being more of a non-factor than in past years. He may have benefited
some from the format, but the large majority of his extra strength was
likely legit. Halo 3 hype is a good bet for the super Chief we saw last year. Couldn't have been a better time for a contest to happen -- during the peak of the hype and the game dropping mid-contest. The format probably still helps him more than one-on-one, but I'd agree with you as far that match goes. --- six bullets. more than enough to kill anything that moves. |
| Masato_Tanaka | Posted 10/19/2008 6:51:52 PM | message detail |
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What the hell is Ocelot's problem? It figures MGS4 doesn't affect anyone at all practically --- The Straight Up G The WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/19/2008 6:51:52 PM | message detail |
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http://www.thengamer.com/stats/Pt201-250/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt213/ This topic is awesome. The Guru was 4-3 in Snake's favour. --- Mustache...and green... |
| RPGuy96 | Posted 10/19/2008 6:52:26 PM | message detail |
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Er, sorry, meant contest analysis crew. --- Mustache...and green... |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/19/2008 6:55:33 PM | message detail |
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What the hell is Ocelot's problem? It figures MGS4 doesn't affect anyone at all practically That doesn't surprise me too much. The only people who got MGS4 were the diehard fans that would have voted for these guys anyways. Had Kojima not been an ass and released the game for 360, I'm sure the characters would have boosted a bit. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 6:56:54 PM | message detail |
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http://www.thengamer.com/stats/Pt201-250/Stats%20and%20Discussion%20Pt213/ This topic is awesome. The Guru was 4-3 in Snake's favour. I remember that. Too bad that Zelda didn't win there. Also, that Ganondorf/Auron match, I actually got a perfect prediction for it. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 7:00:45 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6&pos=86 Definitely a badass pic. I really liked the Auron/Ganondorf picture as well. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| transience | Posted 10/19/2008 7:03:03 PM | message detail |
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From: Dranze | Posted: 8/23/2005 3:20:29 PM | Message Detail Snake with at least 55%. These assumptions are really, really, almost delusional. yesssss --- xyzzy la la la you're dead la la la la we killed you la la la |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/19/2008 7:07:42 PM | message detail |
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It's amazing how far Snake has come since 2005 when people were calling
for half the characters in his division to upset him. Hopefully Crono
will do the same or better after CTDS. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 7:08:42 PM | message detail |
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It's amazing how far Snake has come since 2005 when people were
calling for half the characters in his division to upset him. Hopefully
Crono will do the same or better after CTDS. And those predictions weren't too crazy looking at the results. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/19/2008 7:09:25 PM | message detail |
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last post good job on your win Jill! --- Good Times, Great Memories |
