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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 3:48:47 PM | message detail
I've always wanted to make one!

*checks off #7 on "list of things to do before I die."*

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 3:53:44 PM | message detail
What, is this match boring now? >_>
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ZFS | Posted 10/17/2008 3:54:14 PM | message detail
when was this match interesting

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 3:56:07 PM | message detail
Uhhhh

that part with the boobs
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trannyscience | Posted 10/17/2008 3:56:18 PM | message detail
HM with a very good point
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 3:58:19 PM | message detail
It was interesting, Fenix just didnt do anything when he was supposed to.

And HM fails as usual.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/17/2008 4:00:39 PM | message detail
Marcus has only cut about 400 votes in 4 hours of ASV tho. Thats nothing compared to what he did against Kefka that might of been the most impressive ASV we've ever seen.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 4:03:29 PM | message detail
Which is my point, he didnt do anything when he was supposed to.

Bah who cares, Rydia getting 3rd makes me a Happy Camper. Even if it was because of a revealing pic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/17/2008 4:06:32 PM | message detail

Shoenin_Kakashi (#008)
Which is my point, he didnt do anything when he was supposed to.

Bah who cares, Rydia getting 3rd makes me a Happy Camper. Even if it was because of a revealing pic.



Revealing pic? It was her official FF4 DS, what do you expect? >_>
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/17/2008 4:08:18 PM | message detail
*official FF4 DS artwork
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/17/2008 4:08:49 PM | message detail
Revealing in the sense that it revealed Rydia's deep personality

of sluttiness woo I'd prune that green shrub all night
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/17/2008 4:10:26 PM | message detail
kh is challenging me for the stats topic perv award but it's a losing fight for him I must say
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/17/2008 4:12:07 PM | message detail
someone repost my akiha/rin/tsugumi threesome fanfic
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ZFS | Posted 10/17/2008 4:13:26 PM | message detail
time to change the subject

quick how close is ocelot/kratos

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paulg235 | Posted 10/17/2008 4:13:52 PM | message detail
Bring on the Tifa/Seph match!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/17/2008 4:17:04 PM | message detail
Seph is going to Masamune Tifa like she's never been Masamune'd in her entire life

And the sword is not the Masamune if you know what I'm say- *gets shot*
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/17/2008 4:17:15 PM | message detail
nono I want to see this fanfic

Also wow Marcus, way to do worse against these guys than Cloud/Kefka/Ocelot

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Majin Lou | Posted 10/17/2008 4:18:22 PM | message detail
quick how close is ocelot/kratos

I wanna say closer than Ocelot/Jill despite the REFEAR but I'm most likely wrong, since Ocelot will need to boost a lot to be at Kratos' level. Then again, who knows how much MGS4FEAR has done for Ocelot.
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satai_delenn | Posted 10/17/2008 4:20:19 PM | message detail
You guys are tempting fate, any minute now Lopen's going to show up with his creepy Sephiroth erotic fanfic predictions and we'll all be sorry.

And yeah, going back to the end of the other topic, I guess Riku was the one who stood out to me as utterly failing to rise to expectations with the day vote. Damn you, Riku.
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/17/2008 4:23:41 PM | message detail
Haha, Rydia is actually going to win (read: beat Marcus)? This is awesome.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/17/2008 4:40:16 PM | message detail
Man, I never thought I'd see the day when pre-PSX Square stalls XBox with the ASV. I guess breasts are popular at any time!

Tifa > Sephiroth tomorrow let's do this
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/17/2008 4:44:08 PM | message detail
Yes, the power of the jubblies has killed the 1% chance Nana or Ratchet had of upsetting Tifa. Better luck next time, PS2 Platformer Guy and Half a SSB Character.

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PokemonPatriarch | Posted 10/17/2008 4:45:14 PM | message detail
Well, I have nothing better to do this weekend, so why not enjoy a weekend of back-to-back TJF?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/17/2008 5:01:20 PM | message detail

PokemonPatriarch (#023)
Well, I have nothing better to do this weekend, so why not enjoy a weekend of back-to-back TJF?



back-to-back-to-back if you count jill!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/17/2008 5:03:23 PM | message detail
*checks picture*

No, I don't.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/17/2008 5:04:27 PM | message detail
Jill's arm is getting in the way, and that will be her downfall!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 5:04:44 PM | message detail
It was her official FF4 DS
It wasnt. This came out eay after her official design did.


and Kratos/Ocelot wont be close, considering Kratos isnt getting 2nd <_<
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 5:09:21 PM | message detail
eay = way

arg
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/17/2008 5:49:19 PM | message detail
You know, with how pathetic Nana and Ratchet are going to be, I'd almost call for Sephiroth to have the highest percentage of the contest if Tifa weren't there.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/17/2008 5:54:19 PM | message detail
I'm taking a page out of HM's book and calling an Ocelot win over Kratos.

Reason? Ocelot = Other MGS guy who overperformed, and Kratos = Felix the cat. Or Fenix. Or Phoenix. Whatever this guy's last name.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/17/2008 5:54:28 PM | message detail
he could anyway. LFF doesn't matter when your opponents are so bad that they can't take advantage of it. SFF outweighs LFF in this case.

but I don't think Sephiroth is approaching 60% either way. if he is, Tifa's in real trouble.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/17/2008 5:54:55 PM | message detail
Basically, Heavy > Ocelot > Kratos > Scrub.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/17/2008 5:56:28 PM | message detail
We need more TJF in next year

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff4ds/swf/dl_images/3dcg_3s.jpg

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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/17/2008 5:56:31 PM | message detail
Speaking of TJF (which seems to be the only thing people are speaking of today), yo and I have assembled a retrospective tribute to the top TJF matches of all time. Be sure to give it a look-see!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=46025951

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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 5:59:27 PM | message detail

KamikazePotato (#033)
We need more TJF in next year

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff4ds/swf/dl_images/3dcg_3s.jpg



Who is this lovely lady? We need to rally for her...
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 5:59:47 PM | message detail
Woah now Soul,

I expect Heavy to beat Kratos, but I dont expect him beating Ocelot.









though yes, The Russian is clearly superior to all of them.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/17/2008 6:01:24 PM | message detail
that's Rosa from FF4. FF4DS really went overboard.

they all look hideous in-game, by the way.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/17/2008 6:01:24 PM | message detail
If the Team Fortress crew were all one character they'd be breaking the Noble Nine I say!

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trannyscience | Posted 10/17/2008 6:01:47 PM | message detail
http://ui32.gamefaqs.com/447/gfs_87468_2_2.jpg who wants some
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 6:01:59 PM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/wwwiaf_match_32.png
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 6:02:03 PM | message detail
I agree with that Logic.

Pyro > Snake in 2009
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 6:03:29 PM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/rosa.png
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/17/2008 6:03:30 PM | message detail
Keep Rosa outta here!

But if Sephy gets 60% or so, that still leaves Tifa 40% to work with, and she can get 20% while Nana and Ratchet split the remaining 20% or so.

But yeah, if that happens, you can forget her advancing past the next round.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/17/2008 6:04:43 PM | message detail
...What in the world is that Kratos picture?
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 6:05:26 PM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#044)
...What in the world is that Kratos picture?



The cow suit that's unlockable in GoW.

...Yes, there's an unlockable cow suit. Also "Businessman Kratos," "Scuba Kratos" and "Ares Kratos."
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/17/2008 6:06:28 PM | message detail
haha thats hillarious
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trannyscience | Posted 10/17/2008 6:06:37 PM | message detail
it's no Cod of War
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/17/2008 6:08:21 PM | message detail
http://img.imgcake.com/Zen/bowser_mock.png

*cough*
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/17/2008 6:09:06 PM | message detail
They got Kevin Sorbo Hercules Kratos suit?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/17/2008 6:10:41 PM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK2Yv6y0Csw&feature=related

Snake can't touch this.
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