GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 601
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/16/2008 8:31:58 PM | message detail |
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*Warlock Punches you 60,000 feet* ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~ http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- "A joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners." -Moltar Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| MasaHikoTron | Posted 10/16/2008 8:32:58 PM | message detail |
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*dies* --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2008 8:33:03 PM | message detail |
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Out of curiosity, why did you support Sandbag over Magus, Ulti? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:33:24 PM | message detail |
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I was literally JUST making this Darn you Ulti Anyways, with what I was gonna put in the first post: It's a freaking bag of sand! --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/16/2008 8:34:57 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2008 11:33:03 PM (#003) Had a hunch Sandbag would win. 30% against trash competition last year plus the constant CT dropoff plus joke factor, etc etc --- "A joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners." -Moltar Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2008 8:36:13 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, but why would you want Sandbag to win? I thought you were Magus fan extraoirdinaire. And don't look now! 5 updates, 302 votes. Let's do this. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/16/2008 8:36:59 PM | message detail |
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302 to go! --- sig |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:37:14 PM | message detail |
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I think the best we can take out of this match is that Sonic is
basically screwed next round. Aww yeah blue pile of crap getting his
just desserts! --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 8:37:26 PM | message detail |
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Go CT "Ralliers"! --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:37:59 PM | message detail |
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The black wind blows....Sandbag shall shortly perish! --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/16/2008 8:38:03 PM | message detail |
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Again I ask: Would Magus be close to leading, or already leading, if the boards didn't crash today? --- sig |
| nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:38:37 PM | message detail |
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I doubt it Gadds. --- I doubt it. |
| WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:38:39 PM | message detail |
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Gaddswell (#011) Nah, the boards crashing didn't seem to affect voting much. --- SipSap has a nice weener, I know, I've seen it - JarJar Binks |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:38:45 PM | message detail |
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Yes, his rallies would have started earlier and been much stronger. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:39:04 PM | message detail |
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I really doubt the board crash had much of an effect. If anything, it
should have given potential ralliers time to go to other sites without
having to post on the boards. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/16/2008 8:39:13 PM | message detail |
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hey Magus, good of you to join the match after 8 hours. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:39:20 PM | message detail |
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Again I say, no, because noone cares about/likes Magus while Frog is a
fan favourite. Magus is completely useless in battle while Frog is the
third best character to fight with. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/16/2008 8:40:02 PM | message detail |
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Frog is bloody awful in battle and everyone with a brain knows it he's good for healing and uhh uhhh uhhhhh --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/16/2008 8:40:43 PM | message detail |
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and there goes that. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 10/16/2008 8:40:54 PM | message detail |
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Again I say, no, because noone cares about/likes Magus while Frog is
a fan favourite. Magus is completely useless in battle while Frog is
the third best character to fight with. well then --- kept you waiting, huh |
| nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:40:57 PM | message detail |
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**** ---- Just **** |
| AmazingKirby | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:01 PM | message detail |
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Sandbag gain, woot! >_> --- caps |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:01 PM | message detail |
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Huh, Magus horrible in battle? You must only use Triple Techs or something to get that conclusion. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| DpObliVion | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:05 PM | message detail |
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**** this contest. --- NEW YORK GIANTS: SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!! Shea Stadium - My home. You will be missed. 1964-2008 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:08 PM | message detail |
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Sandbag - "Can't let you do that, Magus" --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:09 PM | message detail |
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Well, so much for Magus giving this an outside shot! --- sig |
| The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:29 PM | message detail |
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I am guessing that was not a 607 vote swing... --- Go Ducks Go! http://img.imgcake.com/fallout_3.jpg |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:34 PM | message detail |
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Crono/Ayla/Frog is hands down the best party in the game. Slurp Kiss + their triple tech = unstoppable. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:45 PM | message detail |
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The CT fanbase has no taste, by the way. Why the hell does Frog get these absurd rallies over Magus bah. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:42:10 PM | message detail |
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I think Sandbag is getting counterrallied. Well, at least Magus will
finish over 40% on Sonic. Auron > Sandbag next round, hopefully. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/16/2008 8:42:18 PM | message detail |
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Triple Techs are awsome but impractical. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/16/2008 8:42:23 PM | message detail |
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Again I say, no, because noone cares about/likes Magus while Frog is
a fan favourite. Magus is completely useless in battle while Frog is
the third best character to fight with. I know that's a load of crap, and I've never even played Chrono Trigger. Both characters are clearly fan favorites (Magus more so) and Magus was clearly above Frog in 2005. Stop making arguments based on YOUR OWN personal preferences. People would take you much more seriously if you didn't so obviously make predictions based on your own favorites. --- ""--Banjo |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:42:59 PM | message detail |
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Frog is a lovable knight that had his best friend killed by an emogoth
loser with an Oedipus complex (not Sephiroth this time). Magus is just
trash. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:43:25 PM | message detail |
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Fayt_Esteed (#031) Indeed. I'd rather use each character's best tech three times than do a Triple Tech. --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/16/2008 8:43:36 PM | message detail |
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What all did I miss in the last topic guys? --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:44:08 PM | message detail |
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Magus was the most popular character on this board back before he lost
to Knuckles. There was quite a bit of talk about Magus > Crono via
rSFF and even Magus > Link; that's how much this board loved him. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/16/2008 8:44:16 PM | message detail |
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not much. a lot of whining. I haven't seen a "this guy is weak he sucks in battle" argument since Vincent -- those were the days --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| __hiei__ | Posted 10/16/2008 8:44:28 PM | message detail |
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and Sonic really sucked hard in this match below 37%? lol. |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/16/2008 8:44:43 PM | message detail |
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Reposting these: http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-30.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-31.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-32.jpg http://www.gamefaqs.com/images/cb7/cb7-33.jpg --- sig |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:45:15 PM | message detail |
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1) Frog/Samus was likely an SFF affair, given the absurd boost Riku got between 2005 and 2006 2) Knuckles vastly overperformed on Squall 3) Frog went 50/50 with the guy that beat Knuckles into the ground 3 years in a row --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:11 PM | message detail |
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Watching BT argue is so much fun. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:23 PM | message detail |
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I'm arguing why Frog is better at getting fanbase support than Magus,
not why a Starcraft character would beat a Final Fantasy 7 character. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| greatone10 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:24 PM | message detail |
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What is amazing is that in 2005, Magus would have been a upset pick to
beat Sonic. Now the big upset pick is SANDBAG > Magus, and it's
actually working! --- Donkey Kong Country 2 for next Games contest. Brawl FC: 3050-7287-5564 Kart FC: 3738-0020-0896 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:30 PM | message detail |
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I love making dumb as hell arguments to make my characters look better than they really are --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:34 PM | message detail |
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Does Turtle usually use Smurf stats for his arguments? --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:35 PM | message detail |
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3) Frog went 50/50 with the guy that beat Knuckles into the ground 3 years in a row Yep, Frog really is as strong as Snake- I guess that means he beats Megaman easily! --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way) Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:49 PM | message detail |
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Frog went 50/50 with the guy that beat Knuckles into the ground 3 years in a row I like how you leave out the part where that was the sprite round. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/16/2008 8:46:50 PM | message detail |
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Oh, man. Reading the last two topics to catch up on this match has just been classic. __hiei__, 10/16/2008 7:32:49 AM I'd say this match is over hellfire104, 10/16/2008 10:12:48 AM I'm just glad Sandbag is dead. 1 down, 1 to go. TRE Public Account, 10/16/2008 10:24:21 AM My post was made when Sandbag and Magus were closer together so even a diluted day vote might have been enough for Sandbag to win. However, at this point it looks like Magus had 2nd place locked up. Zylo the wolf, 10/16/2008 10:40:08 AM I really can't see Magus not advancing right now. The lead is above 1500, the characters that compete with the ASV is Sonic (third king of the day vote after Masterchief and Sora) and an Xbox character. I doubt Sandbag will ever cut the lead below 1000. Then agian I didn't think that Hogger could pull it of yesterday either so what do I know? TestIcicles, 10/16/2008 12:38:13 PM People still don't think this match is over? Jesus... feel free to rub this in my face if by some insane miracle Sandbag actually comes back, but he's been done for hours now. MyWorldIsCrono, 10/16/2008 1:38:25 PM Yeah this match is over. Good job Magus keeping Sandbag from advancing transience, 10/16/2008 1:53:15 PM I think we'll need a late rally on the Bag's behalf to win this, and I'm not feelin' that. PartOfYourWorld, 10/16/2008 1:56:52 PM I haven't even looked at the votals since two hours into the match. That's how over this thing is. Poor Sandbag and his unlucky bracket placement. Lamentable! Absolutely lamentable! BlAcK TuRtLe, 10/16/2008 4:27:24 PM! There's no way Sandbag keeps this pace up. Magus starts stalling him at 7 and probably starts winning consistant updates again by 9. We see this pattern every year, why would it be different today? And the only sane one in the house is...hochi? hochimnih157, 10/16/2008 5:47:30 PM It's over for either Magus or Sandbag ...oh, never mind: hochimnih157, 10/16/2008 3:34:43 PM Magus will win. The entire credibility of this contest is riding on him. And, perhaps, the best one of all: Guess how many teens, 10/16/2008 7:55:16 AM Well even if Sandbag wins this round no way he'll make it out of R2. The Stats Topic! Where No One ever learns. Clearly I was doing it wrong last year. This topic, and this contest, are strictly for the lulz. |
| BDawg | Posted 10/16/2008 8:47:45 PM | message detail |
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That Chrono port needs to come out already, I barely remember that game. Oh no I'm just like the kiddies! --- Should I start running now? |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/16/2008 8:47:57 PM | message detail |
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We need to do that for every match. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
