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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 8:40:08 AM | message detail
I really can't see Magus not advancing right now. The lead is above 1500, the characters that compete with the ASV is Sonic (third king of the day vote after Masterchief and Sora) and an Xbox character. I doubt Sandbag will ever cut the lead below 1000.

Then agian I didn't think that Hogger could pull it of yesterday either so what do I know?

Heck isn't Magus doing better and better every hour right now?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/16/2008 8:40:43 AM | message detail
Sonic is more morning than ASV, honestly.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/16/2008 8:41:32 AM | message detail
Then again, Sonic's not usually (or ever before today) night-oriented either, and he made a big jump with the night vote today.
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/16/2008 8:47:54 AM | message detail
this match is already long over.

and sandbag won't even win the day vote
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/16/2008 8:49:04 AM | message detail
Shepard spike! Man, he nearly beat Sandbag there.
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Crimson Dragoon | Posted 10/16/2008 8:49:57 AM | message detail
Shepard about to go Renegade on Sandbag's ass.

...if a bag of sand can have an ass that is.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 8:50:59 AM | message detail
Shepard is honestly not doing bad at all
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/16/2008 8:54:22 AM | message detail
I still think it's weird that WCC can take first over Tidus yet Sandbag can't beat Magus...

...but I'm not going to complain much. I like Sandbag more, but it would likely **** with the contest long after today if it won. I think Magus has this.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/16/2008 8:59:05 AM | message detail
I still think it's weird that WCC can take first over Tidus yet Sandbag can't beat Magus...

Fanbase split with Sonic. Replace Sonic with Auron, and it would be cruising.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 8:59:44 AM | message detail

PartOfYourWorld (#409)
I still think it's weird that WCC can take first over Tidus yet Sandbag can't beat Magus...

Fanbase split with Sonic. Replace Sonic with Auron, and it would be cruising.



well yeah, Auron would SFF magus
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/16/2008 9:02:26 AM | message detail
I do think Sandbag and Sonic are hurting each other a little, but 2.5+% of hinderance to Sandbag is probably more than I expected...especially since I would think people torn between Sonic/Sandbag would probably vote for Sandbag in today's GameFAQs.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 9:03:42 AM | message detail
It's why I specifically said competing with a 360 character and Sonic for the day vote, especially that her in 2008 the shifts aren't so pronounced as they used to be. I swear to god no one reads posts in these topics anymore... or at least doesn't care enough to actually understand what they say.

Once again, "shifts not being pronounced" is more a result that we haven't really seen completely polarizing characters against eachother, and when we do, the result is softened by the fact that those characters aren't competing against other opposite characters. I think Dante and Sonic have shown that the trends are just as pronounced as ever, it's just that we haven't had any close matches like that where it is really obvious.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/16/2008 9:04:41 AM | message detail
Then again, Sonic's not usually (or ever before today) night-oriented either, and he made a big jump with the night vote today.

That's just because of how frontloaded Sandbag and Magus are.
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CP724 | Posted 10/16/2008 9:04:54 AM | message detail
I really want to see these jokes in a 1 on 1 format. I doubt they even beat fodder.
nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/16/2008 9:09:04 AM | message detail
L-Block beats everything but top-fodder easily.

I mean hell, L-Block v Vyse. I loved SoA and would be voting Vyse but you think he has a chance in hell? They'll suffer a similar fate as Pac-Man 1-on-1; they'll do well against nobodies and fall flat against anyone with the slightest name.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 10/16/2008 9:15:06 AM | message detail
Can't read this now, but what is the consensus of Dante/Leon now?

BTW, I still think that it was more of giving Leon a RE2 pic, I think that a big part of his votes comes from RE4
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nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/16/2008 9:27:42 AM | message detail
I think consensus is still that Riku places above Leon.

I think it'll be close and hope Leon will take it.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 9:30:21 AM | message detail
I still think it's weird that WCC can take first over Tidus yet Sandbag can't beat Magus...

That's because WCC also gets votes for being a loveable character, while the Sandbag only got lulz and "OMG it's in Brawl!!".

Besides Sandbag is also facing characters who have done well in the character battles, while DK, Tidus are perhaps the two biggest failures, and Tails never was that strong.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/16/2008 9:40:41 AM | message detail
two bigger failures? Tidus and Magus are comparable in strength fyi.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 9:42:51 AM | message detail

nintendogirl1 (#417)
I think consensus is still that Riku places above Leon.

I think it'll be close and hope Leon will take it.



After Rikus pathetic performance, I don't see how he can be the favorite, as long as Leon gets a RE4 pic
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 9:43:59 AM | message detail
Magus is a big contest failure as well

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Knuckles_vs_Magus_2005
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/16/2008 9:47:24 AM | message detail
uh

that was the year Knuckles almost went even with squall


also,Magus is owning right now for whatever reason.he's actually making Sonic drop %
Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 9:47:48 AM | message detail
Crono lost a full % with the ASV when there was no ASV beast in the poll whatsoever, it's likely will go at least that and to be fair Sandbag has shown signs of having a decent day vote with his morning vote. It's a long shot but I just have zero faith in a CT character during the day vote, Sandbag won't rip up anything but if Magus collapses enough maybe he can get in reach.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/16/2008 9:47:57 AM | message detail
losing to Knuckles isnt saying he's a 'failure'; that's just us over-estimating his x-stat value.

Knuckles would have had a close match with Tidus as well.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 9:48:11 AM | message detail
I loved that match. Every upset at least had someone predicted it on Board 8, but NONE had Knux > Magus.

But that's the only time Magus really failed, Tidus on the other hand has failed almost as much as DK and Kefka.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2008 9:49:45 AM | message detail
that was the year Knuckles almost went even with squall

Because Knuckles got bandwagoned after he beat Magus, who most had winning the division. Knuckles was never on Squall's level, 2k2 notwithstanding.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 9:51:04 AM | message detail
yeah for like the 500 people on the board, Bandwagoning doesn't have any real effect on the end result.
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Tohoya | Posted 10/16/2008 9:51:17 AM | message detail
I still think it's weird that WCC can take first over Tidus yet Sandbag can't beat Magus..

Sandbag only has joke votes, whereas WCC gets joke votes plus portal fanbase. People in Brawl don't really care about sandbag, but people who like portal usually lurve the cube. Remember how weak L-Block was last year in his first match; I'd expect Sandbag to be around there unless a bandwagon effect got a hold of him (and it probably won't have a chance to do that since he's most likely losing this round).

Portal fanbase here seems to be pretty substantial. I'd expect it to wreck face in a games contest. GlaDOS, despite having a nigh unrecognizable name and pic, did fairly well. WCC is much closer to the series actual strength IMHO.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 9:51:46 AM | message detail
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Link_vs_Magus_2003

The same guy put 35% on link

Magus is just a guy we never know what to expect from... he can flop, or do really well
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2008 9:51:51 AM | message detail
yeah for like the 500 people on the board, Bandwagoning doesn't have any real effect on the end result.

Stop talking.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 9:52:29 AM | message detail
uh oh, sandbag tied magus. lets hope this is a one time update!
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 9:53:45 AM | message detail
Every upset at least had someone predicted it on Board 8, but NONE had Knux > Magus.

I had it because I never for a second bought the Magus hype given that he let Sam come way to close and brough Tidus and Ganon suspiciously high in the x-stats, IIRC I had a bet with Ulti to such an effect. My favorite vs his favorite, there was only going to be one winner. ^_^

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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 9:54:58 AM | message detail
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Link_vs_Magus_2003

The same guy put 35% on link

Magus is just a guy we never know what to expect from... he can flop, or do really well


CT Sprite match. It's like Solid **** in reverse.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/16/2008 9:56:27 AM | message detail
Tidus on the other hand has failed almost as much as DK and Kefka

no he didnt. he falls in the same boat.

i dont get you people. you overestimate a character or they have a close match, and suddenly they're a "failure", yet, through their matches, he's STILL comparable to Magus in strength. why are you so biased?

there's no reason to consider him thatweaker than Magus simply because he's Tidus.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/16/2008 9:56:53 AM | message detail
The same guy put 35% on link

yeah i should have known debating with Albion is pointless. nevermind.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 9:57:32 AM | message detail
Then I guess you didn't enter your bracket in the Guru contest or BOP that year Smurf.

Who can forget when the board got SMURF'D as Knuckles took the lead over Magus with 1 vote.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 9:58:06 AM | message detail
Karma, Knuckles was the bracket favourite for that match so if you expect there to be some significant novelty reaction from the voters because a handful of x-stat humpers called it wrong don't even stop talking, stop breathing. ^_~

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 9:58:52 AM | message detail
At this rate, Magus will be up around 2300 by the time the ASV starts. I've been burned too many times by CT to feel completely safe here, but I think that should be out of Sandbag's reach. He's only won 2 hours so far, and couldn't even cut 200 votes off Magus's lead. Vincent beat Crono badly during the dead zone and Axel cut Frog there, while Sandbag let Magus continue building his lead. Sonic and Vincent were both slowly gaining on Crono during the DSV, while Magus is pulling in 53-54% (of Magus/Sandbag votes) hours right now. I think Crono's proportion to Sonic/Vincent during the DSV was within 1% of his final percentage.....these DSV gains should be too much for Sandbag to overcome.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2008 9:59:23 AM | message detail
Still, even if Sandbag gets by Magus here, I don't think there's any question he's far less of a "threat" than WCC. WCC is pretty much a static entity like L for all intents and purposes, Sandbag is like a hybrid of jokeyness and SSB power. The latter portion of that combination will lead to his downfall, especially considering his SSB support is getting sapped.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 9:59:36 AM | message detail
Who can forget when the board got SMURF'D as Knuckles took the lead over Magus with 1 vote.

I remember getting suspended for a few hours because I reported so much for vote stuffing in that one. It was honestly just a coincidence that the only hours Knuckles lost were the ones I was asleep . n_n

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 10:00:37 AM | message detail
Attn: MarioSuperStar

You should take me to serious in this topic, see my sig. I don't think there's anyone of the regular posters in these topics that shows more fanboyism than me.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 10:02:01 AM | message detail
I seem to remember Magus having 65% or so of brackets sidewide. He was the heavy favorite; we just looked really bad giving him 100% of our brackets.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2008 10:03:05 AM | message detail
if you expect there to be some significant novelty reaction from the voters because a handful of x-stat humpers called it wrong

It's not the voter base at large that matters (to an extent). It's not even the board. It's the rallying that the board does, legit and otherwise, and any fool there saw there was a TON during that match. Again, stop talking.
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Tai | Posted 10/16/2008 10:06:52 AM | message detail
Why is SandBag doing so well against Magus?

Or is he?
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 10:10:23 AM | message detail
Magus by the Hour Vs. Sandbag:

1:00 | 50.80%
2:00 | 53.09%
3:00 | 54.51%
4:00 | 56.38%
5:00 | 54.32%
6:00 | 52.35%
7:00 | 46.43%
8:00 | 49.37%
9:00 | 53.28%
10:00 | 53.63%
11:00 | 53.75%
12:00 | 54.17%
13:00 | 54.25%

Magus is doing better against Sandbag now than he was doing in the first two hours.

On Magus vs. Tidus, Magus was slightly stronger in 2003 based on matches with Ganon. 2004, Tidus barely beat Shadow, and Magus almost beat Knuckles the next year when Sonic Team was arguably stronger and CT arguably weaker. If you think Knuckles is a good deal stronger than Shadow, then Magus does look substantially stronger than Tidus.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 10:13:28 AM | message detail
Magus (2003c) VS Tidus (2007c)

Magus has a strength of 34.93.
Tidus has a strength of 22.69.

Magus wins with 67.52% of the vote!
A win of 40,641 with 115,980 total votes cast.

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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/16/2008 10:13:39 AM | message detail
i cant see Knuckles and Shadow being that far apart. they were practically equal in 2004.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 10:17:34 AM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if Knux now is stronger than Shadow but I could be wrong.

It just seems to me that Shadow gets more hated for every year, I really doubt that Knuckles would lose to Zidane considering that Knux won over more popular FF characters in the past.
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/16/2008 10:18:17 AM | message detail
Knuckles is at Shadow level. they performed equaly in pretty much every contest (except 2003)

this year i'd say Knuckles sucked a bit more actually.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/16/2008 10:20:42 AM | message detail
Sandbag is going to win the after school vote against Magus but it's just a matter of "by how much"

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