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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 599

HaRRicH | Posted 10/15/2008 10:09:28 PM | message detail
Which is actually an improvement sometimes.
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tonygillis13 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:09:49 PM | message detail
Vote Sandbag for President.
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/15/2008 10:09:57 PM | message detail
...You know, Mewtwo lucked out by not being in Brawl. If he was in it Cloud/Squall/Sora/Mewtwo wouldn't even be debatable! >_>

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:10:24 PM | message detail

FastFalcon05 (#249)
Yikes, I really am out of touch.


None of them were ever impressive though; is that at least true?



Olimar was owned by Mario in 2003, Wario advanced a round last year, and meta knight advanced a round last year
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creativename | Posted 10/15/2008 10:10:39 PM | message detail
I think Magus is in trouble here, because I expect Sandbag to have more Nintendo/Smash-oriented trends than joke trends like Phoenix Wright.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/15/2008 10:10:50 PM | message detail
Magus getting ready to cut Sonic.

Jesus Christ he sucks.

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red sox 777 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:11:01 PM | message detail
Sonic only gains 12 votes that time. When does Magus get his first cut?
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:11:22 PM | message detail

creativename (#255)
I think Magus is in trouble here, because I expect Sandbag to have more Nintendo/Smash-oriented trends than joke trends like Phoenix Wright.



...did you just call Phoenix Wright a joke character?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/15/2008 10:12:09 PM | message detail
Why is anyone even considering Sandbag not handily winning the day vote over Magus? It's A CT character vs. a SSB character that the entire fanbase knows.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/15/2008 10:12:26 PM | message detail
Lucario, Wario, Meta-Knight, Diddy Kong, Olimar, etc.

Only one who Id say was total meltdown was Lucario.
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 10/15/2008 10:13:24 PM | message detail
...did you just call Phoenix Wright a joke character?

I sure hope so.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/15/2008 10:14:40 PM | message detail
Honestly, Lucario wasn't even that bad. I'd still say he's above the fodder line based off his performance. We just expected way too much from him.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:15:05 PM | message detail
This makes me wonder: how would Sandbag compare to Master Hand?

It's hard to judge how he'd translate into a 1v1 setting, but I think he'd be weaker just on instinct. Though someone weaker than MH shouldn't put up these numbers in any format...
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:15:30 PM | message detail

KamikazePotato (#259)
Why is anyone even considering Sandbag not handily winning the day vote over Magus? It's A CT character vs. a SSB character that the entire fanbase knows.



Well, I don't think it'll matter much if Magus is up by like 1.5k by morning
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Yesmar | Posted 10/15/2008 10:15:36 PM | message detail

Without Brawl, Snake would beat Mega Man 55-45, like he already proved a couple of years ago. With MGS4, Snake expands that crushing to about 57-43. With Brawl, Snake beats MM 58-42. Mega Man just got MM9, so he might be able to fight back to 43%, but it's unlikely.


Without Brawl, there's no Brawl hype and Snake never boosts to begin with.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:15:50 PM | message detail
The thing is, if Sandbag follows SSB trends, he's going to completely die overnight. That may not give Magus a big enough lead to survive the day vote, but Sandbag must have some joke tendencies at least. After Magus/Knuckles, Crono/Sonic, and Crono/Vincent, I won't feel safe about Magus at 3 PM tomorrow unless he has a 2000 vote lead.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:16:14 PM | message detail

MegatokyoEd (#262)
Honestly, Lucario wasn't even that bad. I'd still say he's above the fodder line based off his performance. We just expected way too much from him.



He nearly lost to Issac

ISSAC
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/15/2008 10:17:04 PM | message detail
Magus is owning now
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/15/2008 10:17:38 PM | message detail
He nearly lost to Issac

ISSAC


Who once got around 25% on Samus.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/15/2008 10:18:15 PM | message detail
If Magus can build a decent lead over night the 'bag is done. Less pronounced shifts + having to deal with an XBox character and Sonic for the day vote isn't going to be kind to him. I'd call Magus the favorite at this point, though obviously it's not over yet.

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Justin_Crossing | Posted 10/15/2008 10:18:56 PM | message detail
I still don't get why people say Issac instead of Isaac.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:19:23 PM | message detail

Fayt_Esteed (#269)
He nearly lost to Issac

ISSAC


Who once got around 25% on Samus.



http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Pikachu_vs_Tidus_vs_Isaac_vs_Serge_2007

This is a more realistic issac then the one when Golden Sun was brand new
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:20:10 PM | message detail

Justin_Crossing (#271)
I still don't get why people say Issac instead of Isaac.



lol its Isaac? Never heard it spelled that way before
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/15/2008 10:20:41 PM | message detail

Who once got around 25% on Samus.


When was the last time Issac was relevant? Oh right... when he got 25% on Samus. Not like she hasn't had MP2, MP3, bunch of handheld crap, and Brawl since then or anything.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/15/2008 10:21:19 PM | message detail
Don't quote me on this, but there must have been handheld LFF going on there.
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creativename | Posted 10/15/2008 10:21:33 PM | message detail
Why is anyone even considering Sandbag not handily winning the day vote over Magus? It's A CT character vs. a SSB character that the entire fanbase knows.

He will. Like I said earlier, Sandbag will smash Magus with the ASV. The question is, will Magus' first and second night votes be enough for him?

I don't think they will.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:22:15 PM | message detail
Going by Isaacs match last year, he was doubled by Tidus. You know who else Tidus doubled? Thats right, Tails.

Lucario is BARELY better then Tails.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2008 10:23:03 PM | message detail
I'm never on Albion's side. Let's just set that record straight.

And why are people so defensive about my Mega Man > Snake upset? It's no more outlandish than Master Chief beating Cloud.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/15/2008 10:23:50 PM | message detail
.....Alright, Which one of you chuckle****s tried rallying for Ramza at /e/ of all places

I go there to whack off, not to look at a weasel, a ***, a kid, and buttpants.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:23:54 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#278)
I'm never on Albion's side. Let's just set that record straight.



Axel?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:24:17 PM | message detail

Shoenin_Kakashi (#279)
.....Alright, Which one of you chuckle****s tried rallying for Ramza at /e/ of all places

I go there to whack off, not to look at a weasel, a ***, a kid, and buttpants.



XD
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2008 10:24:42 PM | message detail
I was on my own side for that one, and I'm trying to distance myself as much as I can from that upset pick.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:25:01 PM | message detail
Let's see, Magus' max lead on Knuckles was around 600, and he went down by 2800 or so at his worst (someone can check me here), but that was 1v1.

Yeah, I won't be sold on Magus taking second until he gets at least a 1200 vote lead or comes within 100 votes of Sonic. The second case may seem silly, but it would just give me confidence that Magus actually doesn't suck.
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Janus5000 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:27:36 PM | message detail
That last update's good enough for me to sleep on. Hopefully I wake up to a non-travesty.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/15/2008 10:27:45 PM | message detail
If Magus gets a 1,000 vote lead I'm tempted to say he has the match won. I can't see a character feared for being a joke being able to compete with the day votes of a 360 character and Sonic. Especially when the ASV and Morning vote have been proven to be severely diluted this year.

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/15/2008 10:29:01 PM | message detail
Okay, we're all thinking it so I'll just say it -

Magus v Knuckles. Go.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:29:07 PM | message detail
The thing that scares me is that CT's best time only lasts for another 2 and a half hours or so before it plunges into its horrible, horrible, deep night/early morning/Europe vote, where it is probably about as bad as during the ASV. This is also Nintendo's worst time fortunately, but I have no faith in Magus being able to add very much to his lead past 4 AM, especially with the low votals in the dead zone. CT has a bad habit of making half its total first night vote gains in the first hour.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2008 10:30:14 PM | message detail
What makes you think the ASV and morning are diluted? We haven't really had any polarizing characters go up against eachother, and Nintendo in general has been disappointing, and that's were half of the day vote characters come from.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/15/2008 10:30:19 PM | message detail
1v1, match is held tomorrow?

Magus. BRAWL DE-BOOST + CTDS HYPE = Magus victory.

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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/15/2008 10:30:29 PM | message detail
What's this "dead zone" with regard to voting trends, and how long does it last?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:31:19 PM | message detail
If magus keeps up these 30 vote updates most of the night, then he's got it in the bag
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:31:32 PM | message detail
Magus > Knuckles. Granted, from me, it's not saying much, as I'd probably have taken it the day after Magus/Knuckles on the hope of random variation changing the result...
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2008 10:31:52 PM | message detail
4am-7am I believe. Also called the Europe vote, it's a terrible terrible time for Chrono Trigger characters, since the original game never saw a European release.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/15/2008 10:32:04 PM | message detail
What makes you think the ASV and morning are diluted? We haven't really had any polarizing characters go up against eachother, and Nintendo in general has been disappointing, and that's were half of the day vote characters come from.

...god, why can't people get it through their thick, stupid skulls that weakening doesn't have an effect on your trends? If Nintendo is getting weaker they're going to be weaker at night and in the day, they're not just going to stay stable during the night and become weakened in the daytime.

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transience | Posted 10/15/2008 10:33:31 PM | message detail
hmm... this is one difficult match to predict. I think I like The Bag here.

it all depends on if CT still dies hard after a few hours.. I would expect so, and while the Bag is probably frontloaded I expect it to make a recovery in the daytime. Master Hand, aw yeah.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 10/15/2008 10:33:41 PM | message detail
I can't see a character feared for being a joke being able to compete with the day votes of a 360 character and Sonic. Especially when the ASV and Morning vote have been proven to be severely diluted this year.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2004&num=2
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 10:35:07 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#293)
4am-7am I believe. Also called the Europe vote, it's a terrible terrible time for Chrono Trigger characters, since the original game never saw a European release.



most of CTs popularity comes from the ROM though, so does it really do that bad in europe voting?
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/15/2008 10:35:56 PM | message detail
Master Hand, aw yeah.

That hand made a lameass contest into a lol-filled one.

^5 Bastard Hand!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:37:36 PM | message detail
Crono's percentage of Crono/Vincent votes by the hour (from memory, so rough numbers):

1:00 | 56%
2:00 | 54%
3:00 | 52%
4:00 | 51%
5:00 | 43%
6:00 | 41%

Crono finished a little under 49%. Granted, Vincent is very good at the dead zone, but still....he did substantially better there against Crono than during the ASV.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
Ngamer64 | Posted 10/15/2008 10:43:25 PM | message detail
Okay, we're all thinking it so I'll just say it -

Magus v Knuckles. Go.


I still take Knuckles over Magus 1v1 in a tight one, if it were held tomorrow. Wait a little longer for CT:DS excitement to set in and I'd probably have to reverse that. And Magus > Knux in a 4-way format with a little room to spare.

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