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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 10:21:48 AM | message detail
It's not the voter base at large that matters (to an extent). It's not even the board. It's the rallying that the board does, legit and otherwise, and any fool there saw there was a TON during that match. Again, stop talking.

It's called a discussion topic dude, either discuss or don't but quit being so dismissive because others don't conform to your way of thinking. Do you have any evidence there was a significant amount of rallying in that match? I don't remember any huge spikes going against trends and Knuckles won comfortably in the end anyway, why would there be rallies? There was a lot of excitement on the board but otherwise no, you don't even have to look past the votals which weren't anything unusual which a rallying match would have.

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__hiei__ | Posted 10/16/2008 10:21:51 AM | message detail
sandbag won't win anything anymore. he just won the european vote time which is by far the worst time for CT characters.
The Mana Sword | Posted 10/16/2008 10:23:33 AM | message detail
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/16/2008 10:29:14 AM | message detail
Gogogo Magus 1900 vote barrier ACTIVATED
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87/112 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Sonic the Hedgehog > Magus | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
The n00b Avenger | Posted 10/16/2008 10:29:45 AM | message detail
Sandbag can also win the after-school vote which is, you know, a nearly as bad time. If not worse depending on the opponent.

2000 votes is an uphill battle. But if anyone can lose it, it's a Chrono Trigger character! Or Kefka. One of the 2.
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The Real Truth | Posted 10/16/2008 10:31:17 AM | message detail
How people can think L-Block is hilarious enough to win a contest but not to get Sandbag over Magus just blows my mind.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/16/2008 10:31:40 AM | message detail
If this was Donkey Kong I'd totally be more worried. I'm pretty sure Magus is going to withstand Sandbag cutting him up...er, I hope.
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87/112 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Sonic the Hedgehog > Magus | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 10:33:54 AM | message detail
Magus is starting to slow down, if Sandbag can start 50/50 him before the ASV even begins its time to sound the warning bells.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 10:35:16 AM | message detail
Omg Sandbag cut.
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/16/2008 10:37:50 AM | message detail
get real people. Sandbag isn't even gonna start an expressive comeback
TestIcicles | Posted 10/16/2008 10:38:13 AM | message detail
People still don't think this match is over? Jesus... feel free to rub this in my face if by some insane miracle Sandbag actually comes back, but he's been done for hours now.

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consolefreak | Posted 10/16/2008 10:38:34 AM | message detail
So anyways, anyone with confidence in a Magus victory right now is a little bit cuckoo-nuts IMO. Not to say he can't win or is doomed or anything, but two points to keep in mind:

1. Kuja built a 440 vote lead against Master Hand (4 hours in)

2. Kuja lost to Master Hand by 5,500 votes

I'm not saying Magus needs a 5,900 vote lead here to be safe; between Sonic still being great in the Day (hopefully?), the 360 character eating some ASV, CT characters not being QUITE the Day Vote choke artists that Kuja is, and the nature of the format, he shouldn't need a cushion THAT gigantic. I am, however, saying he needs a lead of 2,000 before I'd start feeling any kind of confident in him.



The biggest reason by far that Magus never needed a 5,900 vote cushion though is that coming back from 400 votes down and finishing at +5500 votes is nothing compared to coming back from a 5,900 vote deficit.

In the first scenario, Kuja built a 400 vote lead overnight by getting around 51% of the vote. Finishing the match with 5,500 votes behind was accomplished by him getting around 46% for the rest of the day. That's roughly a 5% swing.

If Kuja had built a lead of 5,900 votes on Master Hand overnight (1-6 AM), that means he would've needed around 71.31% of the vote. Master Hand winning the match by even a single vote over Kuja would've required him to get around 55% for the rest of the day. That's roughly a 26% vote swing. Hardly comparable.

Just remember that Auron went one-on-one with Crono just two years ago and got nearly 46% on him. No sign of SFF there.

Seriously Leon, that doesn't prove anything, I think I've argued about this with you before. Sephiroth indirectly gets around 46% on Cloud, he gets this directly as well. Put the 2 of them together with Link or something and they both look a lot weaker.

Auron is awesome. You wouldn't expect him to get SFF'd too easily.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 10:39:32 AM | message detail
How people can think L-Block is hilarious enough to win a contest but not to get Sandbag over Magus just blows my mind.

L-Block is from a better game. And one of the main 'characters'
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Today's prediction: SNOIC 44.60% - Magus 24.90% - Sandbag 15.50% - Shepard 15.00%
Status: so very bad
Janus5000 | Posted 10/16/2008 10:50:41 AM | message detail
You know, Ganondorf can hit Sandbag over 11km in Melee.

Magus beat Ganondorf.

Honestly, what did you guys expect? ;D
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Yesmar | Posted 10/16/2008 11:23:04 AM | message detail
Why does everyone keep calling M. Hand a joke character? That just screams of revisionist history to me. Nobody thought that at the time (at least not in the way we saw CATS), and it just seems like an attempt to justify his performance. People voted for the Hand because he was the final boss of one of their favorite games. I really don't think there was any noticable joke voting going on there.

Here are the hourlies for Kuja/M. Hand. Pretty large vote swing there. We've seen bigger, but anything in double digits is impressive:

Time | Kuja M. Hand
01:00 | 53.67% | 46.33%
02:00 | 53.69% | 46.31%
03:00 | 52.75% | 47.25%
04:00 | 50.02% | 49.98%
05:00 | 48.73% | 51.27%
06:00 | 47.18% | 52.82%
07:00 | 47.19% | 52.81%
08:00 | 49.37% | 50.63%
09:00 | 48.82% | 51.18%
10:00 | 49.06% | 50.94%
11:00 | 49.46% | 50.54%
12:00 | 47.43% | 52.57%
13:00 | 43.06% | 56.94%
14:00 | 41.48% | 58.52%
15:00 | 41.97% | 58.03%
16:00 | 41.37% | 58.63%
17:00 | 42.56% | 57.44%
18:00 | 43.26% | 56.74%
19:00 | 43.19% | 56.81%
20:00 | 45.38% | 54.62%
21:00 | 46.82% | 53.18%
22:00 | 48.41% | 51.59%
23:00 | 50.92% | 49.08%
00:00 | 51.66% | 48.34%
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TRE Public Account | Posted 10/16/2008 11:35:50 AM | message detail
Why does everyone keep calling M. Hand a joke character? That just screams of revisionist history to me. Nobody thought that at the time (at least not in the way we saw CATS), and it just seems like an attempt to justify his performance.

I checked through the old stats topic and some people were definitely calling Master Hand a joke character before his match.

A couple posts here:
http://www.thengamer.com/stats/Pt101-150/Stats and Discussion Pt107/Stats and Discussion Pt107 Pg7.htm

You could probably find other examples. It is a glove after all. It's not really that odd that some people would consider him a joke entry.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 11:38:25 AM | message detail
Yeah this match is over. Good job Magus keeping Sandbag from advancing
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:39:57 AM | message detail
Well i don't consider Master Hand a joke character considering that any Smash Bros player would recognize him more as the boss of Smash Bros 64 and Melee instead of a joke character.

Also i'm rather surprised at Magus. I thought for sure Sandbag would have pummeled him to the ground considering that he was in one of the favorite minigames of Melee and Brawl.

Is the DS release of Chrono Trigger really boosting him this much despite the dialogue change he's getting in this remake?
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:40:12 AM | message detail
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/12/2005 9:18:40 PM | Message Detail
CATS is a joke entry. Adventure is a joke entry. Sand Bag would be a joke entry.


How prescient.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 11:42:38 AM | message detail
Is the DS release of Chrono Trigger really boosting him this much despite the dialogue change he's getting in this remake?

What dialogue change?
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Rasputin77 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:44:37 AM | message detail
OK - I think these contests are juvenile, and further perpetuate the image of GameFaqs as mostly being a giant playground for pubeless pre-teens.



... did I do that right?
transience | Posted 10/16/2008 11:44:44 AM | message detail
it'd take the hugest comeback ever for the Bag to take this now.

CT has shown three times now that it's not an early vote anymore. it seems like it's just better this year than usual.

come onnnn silly comeback for no reason
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 11:44:46 AM | message detail
whoa two big cuts in a row from Sandbag!




.. no, I'm just kidding lol
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Today's prediction: SNOIC 44.60% - Magus 24.90% - Sandbag 15.50% - Shepard 15.00%
Status: so very bad
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 11:45:29 AM | message detail

GrapefruitKing (#473)
whoa two big cuts in a row from Sandbag!




.. no, I'm just kidding lol



Yeah, only one big cut from sandbag
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 11:47:00 AM | message detail
By comparison, Arthas was up by 2400 at this point, and Ike had one of our most impressive comebacks ever, yet still didnt get it under 1000.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:49:28 AM | message detail
Didn't you see the little trailer of the fight you have with him at his castle?

After he says "The Black wind howls........ Okay give me your best shot...."

In the snes and psx version he would say "If you're prepared for the Void!"

In this new trailer he says "Come, if it is death you seek!"
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:50:33 AM | message detail
Uh oh.....2 fairly large cuts in a row for Sandbag. Is 2100 votes enough? You better win this one Magus.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
charmander6000 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:51:59 AM | message detail
The comeback begins.

Sandbag needs 19.18 votes per update to tie.

You can hang on Magus.
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transience | Posted 10/16/2008 11:53:15 AM | message detail
I think we'll need a late rally on the Bag's behalf to win this, and I'm not feelin' that.
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 11:53:15 AM | message detail
god damnit my post was supposed to be a joke
not a nightmare come true
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Today's prediction: SNOIC 44.60% - Magus 24.90% - Sandbag 15.50% - Shepard 15.00%
Status: so very bad
GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 11:54:58 AM | message detail
*gasp*
Fight, Magus, Fight!
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Today's prediction: SNOIC 44.60% - Magus 24.90% - Sandbag 15.50% - Shepard 15.00%
Status: so very bad
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/16/2008 11:55:29 AM | message detail
Gyaaaahhh! Sandbag's trying to come back!
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transience | Posted 10/16/2008 11:55:32 AM | message detail
Sandbag's not even going up... Magus is just dropping hard.

damn you Sonic, the new Cloud
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/16/2008 11:56:52 AM | message detail
I haven't even looked at the votals since two hours into the match. That's how over this thing is. Poor Sandbag and his unlucky bracket placement. Lamentable! Absolutely lamentable!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/16/2008 11:58:32 AM | message detail
From: HaRRicH | Posted: 4/12/2005 9:18:40 PM | Message Detail
CATS is a joke entry. Adventure is a joke entry. Sand Bag would be a joke entry.

How prescient.


Can't believe I said that...haha, awesome.

He's still a joke entry!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 11:58:32 AM | message detail
3 cuts in a row....and it's not even 3 PM yet. Fight back Magus!
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 12:00:02 PM | message detail
If it keeps going down that steadily... I'm scared
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Today's prediction: SNOIC 44.60% - Magus 24.90% - Sandbag 15.50% - Shepard 15.00%
Status: so very bad
Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/16/2008 12:00:41 PM | message detail
That's it Magus, job. You know it's what you're best at. ^_~
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/16/2008 12:00:57 PM | message detail
Well MH's protege has arrived game over Magus
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RPGuy96 | Posted 10/16/2008 12:01:16 PM | message detail
Sandbag's not even going up... Magus is just dropping hard.

And this is why the fact that there's other characters that are good with the ASV doesn't preclude Sandbag from making a comeback on Magus. Not saying you're guilty of this but I saw a lot of posts that said Sandbag couldn't come back because Sonic and the XBox character would be sucking up the ASV, which is wrong, because they're going to be taking percentage from Magus regardless of what Sandbag does.

Given what we've seen of the Brawl only types (Prince Marth, Ike, Meta-Knight), I'd expect Sandbag to make a pretty good run of this. I don't think he can win and I hope he doesn't, but he's got a chance.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 12:01:49 PM | message detail
So I guess it started. Thanksfully the lead was already above 2000, so The Bag needs to cut about 200 votes from Magus lead each hour to stand a chance, and Magus will most likely start winning updates in the final hours anyway.

In other words let the Bag enjoy the ride and Sonic's % go up.
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transience | Posted 10/16/2008 12:02:37 PM | message detail
yeah, I know. I'm just commenting how weird the trends are, because it seems like Sandbag's doing good with the day vote whereas he's just not sucking balls.

Sonic doesn't look too bad anymore. not great, but not awful either.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/16/2008 12:03:26 PM | message detail
Magus by the Hour Vs. Sandbag:

1:00 | 50.80%
2:00 | 53.09%
3:00 | 54.51%
4:00 | 56.38%
5:00 | 54.32%
6:00 | 52.35%
7:00 | 46.43%
8:00 | 49.37%
9:00 | 53.28%
10:00 | 53.63%
11:00 | 53.75%
12:00 | 54.17%
13:00 | 54.25%
14:00 | 53.70%
15:00 | 50.80%

Magus falls nearly 3%....how far will he fall this next hour now that the ASV is here?
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 88/112 --- T-300 (103 way)
Bracket: Sonic > Magus --- Vote: Magus
transience | Posted 10/16/2008 12:05:15 PM | message detail
100 votes in 25 minutes. wonder how close Bag can make this.

I could see this getting down to 500 votes before a stall.
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PegasusLover123 | Posted 10/16/2008 12:05:17 PM | message detail
To be honest i thought Sandbag would have been stronger than Hogger. But it seems that even if Sandbag gets most of the day votes, Magus seems to have enough of a lead vote to fend him off.

And Albion here's the site where the trailer showing this change is.

http://na.square-enix.com/ctds/

Click on magus and then click the sample there near his description.

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 12:10:19 PM | message detail
wel Sandbag seems to enjoy steady 20-vote cuts
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Today's prediction: SNOIC 44.60% - Magus 24.90% - Sandbag 15.50% - Shepard 15.00%
Status: so very bad
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/16/2008 12:11:15 PM | message detail
Oh Sandbag is much stronger then Hogger. Magus is no Ramza
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/16/2008 12:14:32 PM | message detail
ow 30 votes this time
TestIcicles | Posted 10/16/2008 12:14:50 PM | message detail

And this is why the fact that there's other characters that are good with the ASV doesn't preclude Sandbag from making a comeback on Magus. Not saying you're guilty of this but I saw a lot of posts that said Sandbag couldn't come back because Sonic and the XBox character would be sucking up the ASV, which is wrong, because they're going to be taking percentage from Magus regardless of what Sandbag does.


The point's still valid. Everyone knew Magus was going to go down with the ASV, the fact that instead of his % going to Sandbag, it's going to get syphoned off to two other characters, who are likely better than him with it. It allows Magus to suck a whole hell of a lot more without it having a serious impact.

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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/16/2008 12:15:13 PM | message detail
SONIC > SNAKE!
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