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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/15/2008 11:42:50 AM | message detail
An item that appears in the Home-Run Contest, where the goal is to do lots of damage to Sandbag, then send it flying as far as you can. It also appears in the regular game. If you smash it, a storm of confetti and items will burst out. Sandbag doesn't feel pain, though; in fact, it's happy to be of service.

Help Archive Contest Results! Please visit this link and go nuts: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45766338

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.

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Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Cybat | Posted 10/15/2008 11:44:05 AM | message detail
woo Sandbag
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The Mana Sword | Posted 10/15/2008 11:44:10 AM | message detail
sandubaggo-kun
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Kleenex - Not on his computer.
GameZACKS | Posted 10/15/2008 12:16:00 PM | message detail
sandbag will flopppppp

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LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS
Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/15/2008 12:18:14 PM | message detail
I think Sandbag will flop.
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Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness
Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/15/2008 12:47:19 PM | message detail
Ramza cut because Albion was making a sandwich.

Man, the more I think about this, the harder it is to keep from laughing. Not a good thing when you're trying to follow this in the middle of a deadline at work.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITS
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/15/2008 12:47:45 PM | message detail
Oh man the 500 post was supposed to be Magus > A lame bag with eyes of sand.
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Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me
hellfire104 | Posted 10/15/2008 12:48:20 PM | message detail
So.....Bye bye Ramza My rank should climb about 100 tomorrow. :P
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Contest Point Total: 85 Rank: 98%tile, Tied for 351
This Pick: Dante > Hogger
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 12:48:23 PM | message detail
Ramza cut because Albion was making a sandwich.

close enough
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
ffmasterjose | Posted 10/15/2008 12:49:09 PM | message detail
Who or what is Albion? *doesn't want to seep through hundreds of posts*
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85/108 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Dante > Ramza Beoulve | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 12:49:24 PM | message detail
<- Albion
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
ffmasterjose | Posted 10/15/2008 12:50:02 PM | message detail
By the way, that first link doesn't work anymore. Topic purged.
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85/108 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Dante > Ramza Beoulve | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
Biolizard28 | Posted 10/15/2008 12:50:16 PM | message detail
MyWorldIsCrono (#011)
<- Albion

I thought you couldn't suck any worse, then I realized that you don't have the display above the posts...
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Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism.
ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST!
ffmasterjose | Posted 10/15/2008 12:51:31 PM | message detail
Yeah, that threw me off for a second there. User name above the message is where it's at.
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85/108 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Dante > Ramza Beoulve | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/15/2008 12:51:56 PM | message detail
I love my side display. It's not a bad thing.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITS
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/15/2008 12:53:15 PM | message detail
Yeah, Username goes above the post.
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Always.
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 12:53:42 PM | message detail
I have no idea what you guys are talking about o.O
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
nintendogirl1 | Posted 10/15/2008 12:54:52 PM | message detail
Far more importantly though, in the last hour, 9 of Dantes 12 updates have been over 50%.
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BRING IT ON!
linkhatesganon | Posted 10/15/2008 12:54:55 PM | message detail
He was actually jerking off while watching some sort of weird anime I'm possitive
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/15/2008 12:56:37 PM | message detail
OH NOES another Ramza cut, you are not allowed to go to the bathroom Albion until Hogger's lead is OVER 9000!
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Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me
Zenithian Legend | Posted 10/15/2008 12:56:53 PM | message detail
Probably see the next 480 posts relate to how this contest is fixed, rigged, cheating, etc...

course they'd all be right.
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Detroit Red Wings 2008 Stanley Cup Champions!
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 12:57:44 PM | message detail
ya ya ya
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
Nameless2000 | Posted 10/15/2008 12:57:47 PM | message detail
I have no idea what you guys are talking about o.O

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/settings.php

You can choose if you want usernames beside or above their posts.
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inb4Nameless2000
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/15/2008 12:59:29 PM | message detail
Hmm... now that I think about it, this certainly doesn't make me any less confident in Sandbag.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITS
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:00:16 PM | message detail
Hogger has Eyes

Sandbag has eyes

OH GOD
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/15/2008 1:00:52 PM | message detail
*sighs*

Well, you gave it a good shot, Ramza. It was good to see you again. Better luck next time, if there is a next time.
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Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship
Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06%
paulg235 | Posted 10/15/2008 1:01:12 PM | message detail
L-Block and Cube don't, but they still get votes.
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The Gamer In Me
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:04:46 PM | message detail
Rallying the way I'm doing isn't as much of "lol no life" as you guys are all hinting at. Is it that hard to just post and delete the post to bump a topic every 5 minutes to keep it on the main page?
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/15/2008 1:07:09 PM | message detail
Once again I agree, I don't see how that's any different of "having no life" then refreshing a site every 5 minutes just to see how a poll have changed.
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Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me
linkhatesganon | Posted 10/15/2008 1:12:36 PM | message detail
He's going to a WoW forum.
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Please, don't insult me - Vlado about British blood
SSBB FC code - 3007-9626-4713
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:13:23 PM | message detail

linkhatesganon (#030)
He's going to a WoW forum.



And posting on a wow forum is different from posting on another forum.. how?
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/15/2008 1:14:02 PM | message detail
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/15/2008 1:14:18 PM | message detail
Because in doing so, you're trying to manipulate poll results?
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Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism.
ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST!
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/15/2008 1:14:20 PM | message detail
Oh, I don't care about the rallying. I've rallied before (ribbit ribbit), so I guess I'm no more or less pathetic than Albion. I just wish he wouldn't troll this topic all day.
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITS
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
BDawg | Posted 10/15/2008 1:14:29 PM | message detail
It looks like "THE DANTE SPARDA?!" showed up for the after school vote. Not that I like him that much but it's better than looking at these other three.
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Should I start running now?
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:15:32 PM | message detail

PartOfYourWorld (#034)
Oh, I don't care about the rallying. I've rallied before (ribbit ribbit), so I guess I'm no more or less pathetic than Albion. I just wish he wouldn't troll this topic all day.



Actually, I'm more responding to people then trolling after my initial post about rallying.
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:19:54 PM | message detail
600 vote lead yaaay
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 10/15/2008 1:20:09 PM | message detail
Once again people complain about rallying and blissfully ignore the fact that their hero Phoenix Wright needed exactly the same thing to beat Bomberman last year.

Grow up Board 8.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/15/2008 1:23:11 PM | message detail
You have to take other things into consideration, Turtle. People are much more likely to become upset when the person who gleefully claims responsibility for the rallying is about as annoying as you!
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Yoblazer: NO LIMITS
Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world!
Biolizard28 | Posted 10/15/2008 1:27:34 PM | message detail
Wii_TuRtLe (#038)
Once again people complain about rallying and blissfully ignore the fact that their hero Phoenix Wright needed exactly the same thing to beat Bomberman last year.

Considering that most of the people who play PW already knew about the contest, I'd say it's just a tiny bit different.

Grow up Board 8.

no u
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Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism.
ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST!
wavedash101 | Posted 10/15/2008 1:38:34 PM | message detail
Turtle's natural states are whining and hypocrisy
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vcharon | Posted 10/15/2008 1:43:28 PM | message detail
I'm a huge WoW fan, and I think this is downright pathetic. Not the rallying per se... but what you are rallying for. Hogger is a joke entry, I don't give a crap what game he is from, he's still a joke and meant to be fodder. This is exactly the sort of thing that's wrong with this contest as it is. Ramza and Laharl are far better characters... then again, it's hard not to be.

Why didn't you guys rally in someone worth something, like Illidan? He actually would have been the favorite for second in this match had he been here instead I think. Seriously, anyone but freaking Hogger.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:44:40 PM | message detail
Hey, don't ask me. Board 8 didnt have any Hogger noms, I nominated OVerlord Saurfang myself.
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Albion Hero
http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png
Ngamer64 | Posted 10/15/2008 1:49:01 PM | message detail
Albion is correct on this one; Hogger was one of only two characters to not collect any B8 nominations.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/2008_Nominations

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vcharon | Posted 10/15/2008 1:53:21 PM | message detail
Well, I kinda meant "you guys" as the other WoW people.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 1:54:20 PM | message detail
hogger was nommed for the lulz, though. I even saw a 4chan topic about rallying him
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Albion Hero
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/15/2008 2:02:19 PM | message detail
* 2 characters accomplished the frankly incredible feat of making it into the bracket despite never being a suggested option [during the nomination process]: Hogger and Sandbag

There's hope for Sandbag yet.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
HaRRicH | Posted 10/15/2008 2:05:35 PM | message detail
Also, I thought earlier that the WoW-forums weren't rallying for Hogger since nobody specifically mentioned them yet; I only heard what Albion was doing. Poor logic on my behalf. Carry on Albion, though I do think spending a lot of the day altering poll results is a bit desperate on your part.
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NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2
Remember these games!
MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/15/2008 2:06:59 PM | message detail
I'm just the most vocal rallier. Nevest for instance has some topics I've seen on different boards, but he's not bragging about it.
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Albion Hero
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Yesmar | Posted 10/15/2008 2:11:18 PM | message detail
I'm not saying that Hogger isn't benefitting from massive rally votes (or possibly cheated votes based on Blizzard's history), but if this was the sole reason behind his comeback and lead increase wouldn't he be hurting Dante as well? It is very very weird that different characters are switching trends between the ASV and the morning vote, but it has happened in the past. I'm not saying that Hogger's lead is "legit" or non-rallyed, but I think there's a decent chance he would have a lead normally now, albeit a very slim one.
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