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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 596
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:25:59 PM | message detail |
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Division 7: Round 1 - Match 28 – Dante vs. Hogger vs. Laharl vs. Ramza Beoluve Moltar’s Analysis Dante Game/Series Known From: Devil May Cry 2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1 vs. Amaterasu, Little Mac and Matt 1st Place in Round 2 vs. Amaterasu, Ada and Balthier 2nd Place in Round 3 vs. Pikachu, Leon and Amaterasu 2nd Place in Round 4 vs. Master Chief, Luigi and Pikachu 4th Place in Round 5 vs. L-Block, Solid Snake and Master Chief Even the DMC fodder enemies are tougher than this fourpack Hogger Game/Series Known From: World of Warcraft 2007 Results: N/A augh Laharl Game/Series Known From: Disgaea 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1 vs. Kirby, L-Block and Nathan Hale augh Ramza Game/Series Known From: Final Fantasy Tactics 2007 Results: N/A augh Really? This is Dante’s fourpack? What’s up with him and horribly weak groups anyway? Last year, he had a free trip to the semi-finals. This year…at least his starting path is still easy. So Dante wins, and…Ramza for second? The last time we saw Ramza was back in 2003 when he lost to Kirby. We all know Laharl couldn’t even be a Tetris piece and Hogger can just get outta here stupid wow joke So yeah, this match doesn’t even deserve any more words. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Dante > Ramza Moltar’s Prediction is: Dante: 48% - Ramza: 23% - Laharl: 18% - Hogger: 11% Heroic Mario’s Analysis This match is all about Dante. How badly does he wreck this pack? Probably worse than what he last year -- 50%+ seems like a good bet. Second place has been somewhat debated (as much as a match with Ramza and "Hogger" can be argued), but I've never put any thought into it -- Ramza is the clear choice. There is an argument that Hogger could benefit from joke votes or whatever, but I doubt many people even know what it is, much less that it's supposed to be a "joke." You'd have to be hardcore into World of Warcraft -- and most of this site is the furthest thing from 'hardcore.' What's more interesting to me is how well Dante does. If he can put up a show here, he'll be the favorite to win this division after Chief's bomb (damn you sprite round Big Boss could have cruised outta here). With DMC4 under his belt (highest selling DMC game, takes on a MGS2 Snake kinda role), he might even be stronger than last year. The only thing that makes me second guess him breaking 50% is that it's a pack full of niche RPG characters -- those always tend to have core fanbases that will come out in mid-to-high teens to support their character. Gotta hope for a Hogger bomb. Prediction: Dante -- 51% ; Ramza - 20% ; Laharl - 16% ; Hogger - 13% Bracket: Dante > Ramza Vote: Dante Yoblazer’s Analysis One more day until the Great Sandy Showdown of 2008. Man, if you could smell my level of excitement, you might need to crack open a window, bwaha! We've still got one match standing between us and oblivion, however, and it's also a match where a wacky thing or two may happen. Shall we? Up today are Dante from the Devil May Cry series, Hogger from World of Warcraft, Laharl from Disgaea, and Ramza from Final Fantasy Tactics. Unsurprisingly, Dante is the obvious winner. The guy has grown from a decent midcarder to a Top 15 stud over the years, and there is no one else in this remarkably uneven group who can approach his strength. I don't think he'll hit 50% (even the big boys have had trouble getting up there), but the high 40s are certainly within range. Dante isn't the question, though. The question is who finishes in second. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/14/2008 8:26:14 PM | message detail |
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Match XXVIII: Dante vs. Hogger vs. Laharl vs. Ramza Beoulve Information: Name: Dante Game/Series From: Devil May Cry series 2007 Results: 1st in round 1, 1st in round 2, 2nd in round 3, 2nd in round 4, 4th in round 5 With a good bracket placement and with the exception of his round 3 match Dante pretty much dominated and looked good all the way until his fifth round loss. Also with the release of Devil May Cry 4 Dante may even look stronger than before. Name: Hogger Game/Series From: World of Warcraft 2007 Results: Did not enter While not a joke character as the same sense as L-Block Hogger is over-glorified in World of Warcraft and is often treated as an inside joke among players. A new patch has been installed on the World of Warcraft servers just recently so will the fans stop a while to vote for him? Name: Laharl Game/Series From: Disgaea series 2007 Results: 3rd in round 1 How does this guy keep finding a way back into these contests? Laharl must have a really small, but dedicated group of fans who will always nominate him no matter how badly he loses. The guy almost got doubled by L-Block before it became a fad. Name: Ramza Beoulve Game/Series From: Final Fantasy Tactics 2007 Results: Did not enter Before this contest Ramza was one of eight characters whose last appearance was in 2003, today the total has dropped to six (AiAi, Felix, Ken, Raziel, Kite, Mr. Resetti), we really need to get Ken Masters back into the contest. While being a lowly 14 seed Ramza’s match was highly hyped against Kirby and while he didn’t win he did get over 42% on the pink puffball, though that was before the Nintendo boost in 2005. A lot of time has passed since 2003 so Ramza might as well be a new character if we are trying to determine his strength stat-wise. Analysis: To finish off this division we have a match where one character is going to dominate over the three other characters. With the power of the joke characters very real it is rare for anyone to discredit any joke character of doing well, though in my opinion there is really only one result that I see. Like his first match last year Dante should have no problems taking first in this match. While he isn’t the main protagonist in Devil May Cry 4 Dante still plays a major role in that game and with the performance of Nero Dante is going to look forward to a nice boost himself. Just like his match last year Dante is up against two fodders and a character that is near the borderline of being a fodder. Dante should put up a similar performance. Ramza was from a time where Square was at its peak with the recent release of Kingdom Hearts and while Ramza was not in the game he probably did benefit from the larger influx of Square voters. Ramza has had a PSP remake released which explains why he has returned after being absent for so many years. It’s hard deciding his strength level though with a strong near-elite and weak fodder in his match the only way I see him failing to get second is if a certain joke character gets the rally he needs. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:26:25 PM | message detail |
| Of the three able-bodied lambs to the slaughter
(Dante havin a BBQ, aw yeah), Laharl is the one we've seen most. From
what we've seen, he hasn't been very impressive. Yes, he has a core
fanbase, but he doesn't have much else beyond that. While I won't say
his advancing is an outright impossibility (pretty damn close), it
would only be realistic if Dante gobbles up percentage like a demented
Noble 9 crusher and his other two foes bomb depressingly. No one
expects that, which means most of us feel the only two guys with a shot
at second are Hogger and Ramza. Let's talk about Ramza first. We've actually seen him before, back in an age when Kingdom Hearts and Master Chief were still in diapers. In 2003, Ramza faced Kirby and actually managed to hold his own, putting up an impressive 42.3%. Granted, the Kirby of 2003 isn't as strong as the one we've seen in more recent years, but it was a respectable result for the Final Fantasy Tactics star, regardless. He and his game may have aged, but he still has a core fanbase and his status as the main character of a surprisingly popular Final Fantasy title. Under normal circumstances, that would give him a unanimous edge over a guy with a description like Hogger's. Of course, these are not normal times, and Hogger is not a normal character. Hogger is a standard, one-shot enemy from World of Warcraft. That usually wouldn't grant one much cause for concern, but Hogger was nominated as a joke entrant in what is proving to be the year of the jokes. Apparently, the WoW guys think he's funny or something. The WoW fanbase and rally potential is his biggest upside. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on what's penned in your bracket), he also has some major downsides. Unlike L-Block, WCC, or even Sandbag, Hogger is not an instantly recognizable joke character at all. He's a normal looking character with a normal (yet kinda stupid) name. He isn't a part of any Internet fads outside of WoW. He is a complete product of the WoW community, and he will be relying on their support and nothing but to make it. Now, if Thrall couldn't pull it out in a similar scenario last year, I don't have much hope for Hogger. Believe it or not, even being a longtime, regular WoW player doesn't even guarantee you'll know about Hogger. Any faith I may have considered putting in him was instantly burned when I discovered that my brother, a guy who has put over 1,000 hours into World of Warcraft, didn't even know who Hogger was. Yeah, bad sign. If that's any indication, Hogger won't even be in Thrall's league, and will need Laharl and Ramza to both bomb and split RPG fanbase votes if he wants to advance. I don't see it. Bottom line: Dante kills, Ramza with a distant yet comfy second. Dante - 47% Hogger - 15% Laharl - 15% Ramza Beoulve - 23% Lopen’s Analysis Well, alright, this match has a pretty obvious first place... Dante with stylish combos, guns, swords, glory, and all that whoops those Strategy RPG freaks down, and also destroys this Slogger thing that is apparently from World of Warcraft. He wins this in style, beating all three at once, because Dante excels at owning multiple foes at the same time. Second place is supposed to be interesting, so some people say. Apparently this Slogger thing is a WoW joke character, or something? Well, let me just say I saw its picture... and no one is going to get it if they haven't played WoW. Also, from what I've heard, you only know what it is if you play Orcs horde Paladin while being debuffed with four stam to manas during a low level raid, or something. Okay, as all five of you who have played WoW on this site know, I'm totally BSing here as to why not every WoW player has come across this joke. But the moral of the story is true: Not every WoW player knows what it is, for whatever reason that is I don't know. Also, you've gotta figure even less still like the thing. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/14/2008 8:26:28 PM | message detail |
| Like I’ve said Hogger is one of those inside joke
characters among World of Warcraft fans and if he doesn’t want to end
up like Jinjo he’s going to need a huge rally by those players. Since
the 2004 games contest the only time I’ve picked anything Blizzard
related to win was Diablo over Kratos Aurion in 2005. At one point
during this match it was thought that the World of Warcraft servers
would be down during the day of the match while a patch was installed
which made a Hogger upset look much better, but we were wrong and by
tomorrow the servers should be up and many fans will be too busy
playing to go and vote for Hogger. If Laharl had any signs of strength he would have been able to stop L-Block before any momentum started and joke characters in this contest would be all but gone. With Ramza being stronger than him and the power of rallying no matter how small for Hogger I don’t see how Laharl can avoid last. Dante will easily take first and if no huge rallying takes place so will Ramza, though if there is rallying I can see Ramza holding his own with his newly released PSP remake. If the match was today the results could have been much different. charmander6000’s Bracket: Dante > Ramza charmander6000’s Prediction: Dante – 47.35%, Ramza – 23.64%, Hogger – 16.63%, Laharl – 12.38% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 81/104 Today's Match: Riku > Leon |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 8:26:54 PM | message detail |
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Considering his match with Crono happened 3 years ago, so what? He's
obviously not the same Zidane as the last two years, or he wouldn't be
putting 1% less on Link/Shadow/Luke than Alucard/Ness/Liquid. Yes, random FF9 boost in the last year for no apparent reason vs Link/Shadow SFF. Which theory makes more sense and even answers a few questions about what happened to Bowser last year? --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:27:23 PM | message detail |
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So what does that mean? That means that rallying might not even help it
that much. Think Kerrigan/Vincent. "HEY GUYZ VOTE FOR THE SLOGGER
MONSTER AT GAMEFAQS KTHX." "Dude that thing is lam-- OH GAWD IS THAT THE DANTE SPARDA!?"
That's right, Dante is just that awesome. Any rally attempts are
futile. An isolated joke character won't get the undying support of the
fanbase, assuming the rally can even get the job done vs Ramza. Ramza's no joke. Even though Kirby looked pretty weak this year, you can't underestimate 43% on Kirby. You've gotta assume Laharl hits him with a bit of the strategy RPG SFF, weakening him, but even then... Ramza's a low midcarder, you can't just rally anything to victory over him. Meanwhile, a non rallied Slogger will be so weak (WoW doesn't have much support around here as the polls will tell you... Arthas is largely WC3 driven, I think) I doubt he can even beat Laharl while rallying his heart out. Specially with Dante hitting him with rally SFF. Lopen's Prediction THE DANTE SPARDA!? - 53.12% Ramza - 23.01% Laharl - 14.04% Slogger - 9.83% Transience’s Analysis I loathe this match. it's two strategy RPG characters and the World of Warcraft version of the Midgar Zolom. the fourth guy is of course Dante, and I think he's going to absolutely rock this pack. people will be calling for Dante to walk out of his division, and the really crazy might call him the favourite over Sonic should he get that far. Dante's got a joke pack here, and unless Ramza has a Vivi-like performance there's not much stopping him from taking half the votes. the talk of this match has Ramza vs. Hogger, but I think most reasonable people expect Hogger to be awful. even World of Warcraft players expect him to bomb. Hogger could surprise, but whatever. the main thing going for him (it?) is that Ramza and Laharl share a bit of a fanbase; most Disgaea fans got introduced into the genre by way of FFT. Laharl probably hurts Ramza, but unless Hogger shows he can get 15%, I kind of feel like Laharl vs. Hogger will be the only matchup to even bother watching. Ramza's pretty old being on Zidane's level would be impressive transience's prediction: Dante with 53.44%, Ramza with 22.44%, Laharl with 15.01%, Hogger with 9.11% Ngamer’s Analysis Gracious, you're got to put Leon right up there with Sora and Squall in that small list of characters that actually impressed while finishing first. I suppose it's not all that crazy- this is the same Leon that scored a 40-30 on Vivi, and I'd certainly have expected Vivi to be stronger than Riku in this format... but not THIS much stronger, especially considering how the Magician and Seaweed-wearer ought to have had more in common with Mr. Kennedy. Maybe everything RE will just keep gaining steam until RE5 hits? I didn't realize hype levels were this high. Enough of that- on to two of the more exciting battles of R1 in my opinion! First comes Hogger, and tomorrow, the Sandman strikes. Let's try to get a bead on this Dante poll to start. Last Known Values: Dante - 33.17% (2007) Ramza - 22.31% (2003) Hogger - new Laharl - 11.23% (2007) |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:27:39 PM | message detail |
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Darn that SB and his slight delay before starting this Contest! This
match should haven taken place yesterday or the day before- Blizzcon
was just ending and Blizzard fans worldwide were hitting up all the
fansites to get the latest info, while at the same time WoW players had
no choice but to sit around bored downloading the 1.2 GB Wrath of the
Lich King pre-patch and waiting for the servers to come back online.
That 1 or 2 day delay could very well cost Hogger this match- Blizzard
fans know all the big news already and won't be refreshing the fan
pages, and WoW came back online about 5 hours ago and all the players
are going to be too busy trying out the new content (I guess it was
just about the most game-changing patch so far) for the next 48 hours
to do anything silly like vote in popularity polls. What a shame! Well,
for my bracket at least. Ramza was the guy I bet against, and I thought I was doing so with good reason. That disasterous loss to Kirby back in '03 certainly left a bad taste in my mouth, but now that I go back and look, it wasn't THAT awful. Sure Kirby scored 57% on him, but Ramza actually ended with a very respectable 22 in those final stats; needless to say, it's pretty difficult to think of a scenario that would land Hogger a spot above the fodder line. Square's been hit (Squall, Sora) and miss (Kefka, Riku) so far this season, but that crazy performance by Kain must have me really feeling the FFFEAR right now, because all of a sudden I'm feeling surprisingly confident in picking against my bracket to take Ramza here. As for the other two in the poll, what is there to say? Dante's a stud normally and even better in this format who should be blowing the rest of these chumps out, especially with that awesome pic. No way he pushes for 50% though like he did last year- these chumps aren't QUITE as chumpish as Ammy/Little Mac/Matt, plus anti-favoriteFAQs. Laharl is just really really bad and needs to stop making brackets. Still, he ought to improve on that nasty 11% value from '07, now that L-Block won't be ruining him. Soooo I guess that means I'll be preding... WAIT, HOLD THE PRESSES! A WoW-playing friend of mine from Europe just IMed me; he says that in Europe the pre-patch was 1.62 GB and that servers are still down while people install it, and that no servers on the continent will be back online for another 11 to 12 hours. Then I talked to an American WoWer, who said that he's been trying to log into his server every five minutes since 4pm today but that it's still down. He thinks most US servers will remain down overnight and probably many won't be back up until tomorrow morning. All of a sudden those millions of bored WoW players are back on the menu! Could this be the perfect storm for offsite joke vote rallying? Exciting! I'm going to have to change my pick to... Dante - 45.45% Ramza Beoulve - 21.89% Hogger - 18.74% Laharl - 13.92% Yeah, still think Ramza's got too much in his favor to bet against here. That being said, would not be surprised at all if Hogger took him behind the woodshed tonight. This will be a very interesting first 15 minutes IMO! Ngamer Says: Dante > Ramza Guest’s Analysis - Luis_Sera Well here’s an easy match to call, but when you’re left with slim pickings for round one matches, then I guess you have to expect it! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:28:25 PM | message detail |
| I really can’t see anything other than Dante >
Ramza here. Dante placing first here is painfully obvious. The only
other previous entrants we have are Ramza and Laharl, and they lost to
both Kirby and Vyse and respectively in previous character battles.
Ramza we haven’t seen since 2002 I believe, and despite the re-release
of FFT, I have no reason to believe he has gotten significantly
stronger. Laharl was debated over L in early 2007, but those days are
long gone, and since I had L over Laharl then, I’m certainly not going
to have him over Ramza now. Laharl is very much definitive fodder,
whereas Ramza is something of a cut above that. Joke entrants have done well on the whole this contest, but I don’t think Hogger will be among their number this time around. The joke is by no means as obvious as L or WCC, and Blizzard votes alone won’t be taking him above Ramza. This is all about whether he can pip Laharl for 3rd. Laharl is amongst the weakest of our perennial entrants, but he has somewhat of a dedicated fanbase, so the portion of the vote that he’ll pick up is set relatively in stone. It just so happens then that I think this portion of vote is below that which I believe Hogger will accrue. Dante’s 1st round four-pack in 2008 is probably weaker (somehow) than last years, but I think he’ll achieve a lower percentage, as seems to be the trend this year. We’ve had a lot of strong characters “disappoint” compared to their expected first round values, and I don’t expect Dante to be any different. He won’t reach 49% this time around. At least I think so >_< Hogger will get the prerequisite Blizzard support but Ramza will manage to siphon this new-found Square support to an easy victory. Not that he would have lost anyway. Dante: 47.76% Hogger: 15.85% Laharl: 12.05% Ramza: 24.34% Crew Consensus: THE DANTE SPARDA!? defeats Ramza |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:32:03 PM | message detail |
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Urg, inner Disgaea fanboyism is surging up again. Must force it down, I'll only end up disappointed. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:32:15 PM | message detail |
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Why is nobody talking about ramza and laharl sff --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:32:49 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#309) If Hogger isn't in in, Laharl better defeat Ramza to revenge Hoggers defeat! --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:32:57 PM | message detail |
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Because they're from completely different series and are completely different characters. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| smitelf | Posted 10/14/2008 8:33:49 PM | message detail |
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Thanks for the Cecil/Kain theories, btw :) I was kind of wtf-ing over that one, but it's slowly making more sense. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! Biden/Obama...er, I mean Obama/Biden '08! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:34:21 PM | message detail |
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Strategy RPGs are a niche genre that will attract same fanbase. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:34:37 PM | message detail |
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If you haven't wtf-ed at least three times over the course of this contest, you're less easily amazed than I am. >_> --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:35:14 PM | message detail |
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I don't buy genre LFF. It seems the weakest form of LFF you can bring up. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:36:05 PM | message detail |
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Because Scorpion and Ryu (SF) would totally not SFF. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:37:41 PM | message detail |
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Probably not that much, although fighting game characters would get it worse than most others. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 8:37:58 PM | message detail |
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I don't buy KP being a legitimate account. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/14/2008 8:37:58 PM | message detail |
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I don't buy genre LFF. It seems the weakest form of LFF you can bring up. I could buy genre LFF before Nintendo SFF for third-party characters. (Sonic, Mega Man) Haven't seen as much evidence for genre LFF, though... |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:38:49 PM | message detail |
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Hey, it's been a while since BT insulted me. Good times. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:39:32 PM | message detail |
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Fighting games and Strategy RPGs are both pretty hardcore gaming
genres, so I could see alot more LFF in them then say, rpg or action
games --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:40:16 PM | message detail |
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Besides, the entire point is moot. FFT is not niche; MGS needed a late
rally to win against it in the Games Contest. It's no on par with FF
main titles, but niche is too far. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:41:32 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#323) If anything, I'd see Ramza taking Laharls votes though. Because Ramza is from the more popular and received game, and people who played Disgaea probably also played FFT, though not the other way around --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 8:41:43 PM | message detail |
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Besides, the entire point is moot. FFT is not niche; MGS needed a
late rally to win against it in the Games Contest. It's no on par with
FF main titles, but niche is too far. Unfortunately for Ramza his name isn't Final Fantasy Ramza --- eat me |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 8:42:54 PM | message detail |
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Eh, I guess I could sort of see it. Still don't think it's a big deal or make either of them be threatened by Hogger. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 8:43:45 PM | message detail |
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I could buy genre LFF before Nintendo SFF for third-party characters. (Sonic, Mega Man) Haven't seen as much evidence for genre LFF, though... That basically is genre/platform SFF. SFF itself is overlap, so clearly 2 characters from similar games are going to have more overlap than say, Sonic the hedgehog and Leon Kennedy. Mega Man's popularity comes from platforming games on the NES/SNES, same place Yoshi got his from, which is why Mega Man/Yoshi was so lopsided. And since the Dreamcast died, Sonic games are mainly Nintendo games, not to mention Mario & Sonic Olympics and Sonic in Brawl. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 8:45:56 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#326) Didn't think it would make Hogger do any better, if anything it'll make him do worse since Ramza will sff Laharl down. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/14/2008 8:47:55 PM | message detail |
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I can buy genre-SFF/LFF for smaller genres in specific cases. For
example, I do think Duke/Gordon LFF'd each other last year because the
PC-FPS demographic here is likely pretty small. I know they both have
had some success on consoles, but that's not their main fanbase. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/14/2008 8:48:15 PM | message detail |
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That basically is genre/platform SFF. SFF itself is overlap, so
clearly 2 characters from similar games are going to have more overlap
than say, Sonic the hedgehog and Leon Kennedy. Mega Man's popularity comes from platforming games on the NES/SNES, same place Yoshi got his from, which is why Mega Man/Yoshi was so lopsided. That's...a good point, actually. Is there anyone besides platformers that ever gets lumped in with Nintendo? Or is it just Mega Man and Team Sonic? |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 8:53:14 PM | message detail |
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Round 1 Division 7- Match 4 Dante Bacon must love seeing Dante put up crazy numbers in the first round, because he once again has the weakest 4-pack by far Hogger A boss in WoW? Expect him to be a non-factor Laharl Once again Board 8 gets him in, once again he gets to lose to incredibly weak competition. Ramza Wow, he actually got a winnable spot. Analysis: Not much to say here. Laharl is weak-ass, and Hogger will more than likely be turbofodder. Ramza should have no trouble advancing here with the help of FFT's PSP remake. Dante should also have no trouble breaking 50% against these chumps. TuRtLe's Prediction: Dante 52%, Ramza 25%, Laharl 13%, Hogger 10% TuRtLe's Bracket: Dante > Ramza TuRtLe's Vote: Ramza --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:56:23 PM | message detail |
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c'mon dante make this party crazy --- Moltar Status: augh Dante/Hogger/Laharl/Ramza - Bracket: Dante > Ramza - Vote: Dante (81/104) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 8:56:48 PM | message detail |
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That's...a good point, actually. Is there anyone besides platformers that ever gets lumped in with Nintendo? Or is it just Mega Man and Team Sonic? The Chrono Trigger crew is a possibility. Though Magus/Link begs to differ. Then again, the more time goes by, the more I can't help but feel Link sucking in 2003 was because of all the Wind Waker pics. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| transients | Posted 10/14/2008 8:58:06 PM | message detail |
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let's get this dumb match over with --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 8:58:40 PM | message detail |
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" I can already tell. Looks like this is gonna be one hell of a party! " lets do this --- eat me |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:23 PM | message detail |
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Dante 32.43% 12 Hogger 8.11% 3 Laharl 24.32% 9 Ramza Beoulve 35.14% 13 TOTAL VOTES 37 Go Laharl! --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:23 PM | message detail |
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Dante 20% 2 Hogger 0% 0 Laharl 40% 4 Ramza Beoulve 40% 4 TOTAL VOTES 10 wat --- Moltar Status: augh Dante/Hogger/Laharl/Ramza - Bracket: Dante > Ramza - Vote: Dante (81/104) |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:27 PM | message detail |
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It's peanut butter Hogger time, peanut butter Hogger time, peanut butter Hogger time (Chorus:) Where he at 4x There he go 4x Peanut butter Hogger 4x Do the peanut butter Hogger, peanut butter Hogger, Peanut butter Hogger with a baseball bat 2x (Chorus) Now, break it down and freeze 4x (Chorus) Now tic tac toe (uh-huh) Tic tac toe (let's go) Tic tac toe (you got it) Tic tac toe (let's ride) (Chorus) Now, freestyle, freestyle, freestyle, freestyle, freestyle, your style 2x Where he at 4x There he go 4x --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITS Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:39 PM | message detail |
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woo goggogo Ramza --- Today's prediction: Leon 35.61% - Riku 33.30% - German name 18.35% - MacMillan 12.74% Status: Meh |
| Tediz247 | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:42 PM | message detail |
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Dante 16.67% 2 Hogger 0% 0 Laharl 41.67% 5 Ramza Beoulve 41.67% 5 TOTAL VOTES 12 --- That... was her final mission. And like a true soldier, she saw it through the end. ZSB [aX] |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:43 PM | message detail |
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c'mon hoggy! --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| transients | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:51 PM | message detail |
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Hogger looks pretty good. Dante, not so much, but it's early. --- zfs: man i'm reading an argument about whether or not midna is fat zfs: come on mgs4 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 9:00:53 PM | message detail |
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Dante 27.27% 9 Hogger 9.09% 3 Laharl 24.24% 8 Ramza Beoulve 39.39% 13 TOTAL VOTES 33 Go Ramza! --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/14/2008 9:01:21 PM | message detail |
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Ramza please stop dropping. Please. --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/14/2008 9:01:27 PM | message detail |
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oh god hogger what --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Lopen | Posted 10/14/2008 9:01:53 PM | message detail |
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Dammit Dante. WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO GAIN POWER!? --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/14/2008 9:02:11 PM | message detail |
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Heh, Hogger's doing well! --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/14/2008 9:02:21 PM | message detail |
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Dante 41.71% 166 Hogger 18.34% 73 Laharl 14.82% 59 Ramza Beoulve 25.13% 100 TOTAL VOTES 398 Let's-a go, Ramza! And BT, I can't help but think you're right about 2003. Link must have sucked it up in 2k3 with those WW pics. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 9:02:23 PM | message detail |
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Dante's looking great. No way he doesn't break 50% by the end of this abortion of a match. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 9:03:07 PM | message detail |
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So who gets the day vote... Dante? --- eat me |
