GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 596
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:59:54 AM | message detail |
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Are we assuming BB gets a Naked Snake pic in every round now? Someone submitted a MGS4 face shot for Big Boss next round. Wouldn't be surprised if it got picked, but with how popular MGS4 seems to be here, I don't know if it'd hurt him that badly. Not to say Naked Snake isn't the best scenario for him, but still. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| MasaHikoTron | Posted 10/14/2008 8:01:06 AM | message detail |
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leon be dominatin --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 10/14/2008 8:41:32 AM | message detail |
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This sort of thing can be annoying though, I'm personally most
baffled at the Tifa placement. Seriously, what was he thinking there. He wanted to give about 4 people false hope of Nana advancing. --- 81/104 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Leon Kennedy > Riku | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 8:44:40 AM | message detail |
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Nah, he's a Ratchet & Clank fanboy, I'm sure. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/14/2008 8:45:36 AM | message detail |
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The same kirby who got 48% on him by a second tier MGS character? Second-tier? Only because Solid Snake is first-tier; Big Boss is the star of MGS3 and is featured in the current GotY-runner-up while looking a lot like Solid. By all means, that's not an insult to Kirby. People are only taking it this way because we didn't expect BB to pull through like this. Plus, if it comes down to Kirby and Chief being really close, bracket voters will give Chief the win, since I'd bet at least 70% of the brackets have Chief first, with Kriby having barely any. By the time their match comes, do you realize most people here will have lost their brackets to L-Block? Many of us will have also been reminded of taking Shadow to the Division Finals and other such upsets, too. Bracket support will be largely ignored from then on (and, in fact, is probably start dying down soon since many people are being decimated this early in the contest). About today's match: holy moly. Leon, you impress me...though Dante's probably beating you down again, especially since he now has DMC4. Still, maybe Leon can hang on this time. He's crushing Riku and Ramza will probably share the match with him. I'll wait until the end of the match to say much more, but Riku better come back as much as he can here if he wants to have a decent shot next round. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 8:58:47 AM | message detail |
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I don't care how much of a drop-off Leon had in relation to Pikachu
last year, Riku's no pikachu. Dante > Leon should be considered the
heavy favorite for the next round. You don't lose to someone by 17% and
then beat them, without any SFF holding you back originally, or a more
significant overlap than Dante/Leon. 3 PS2 Capcom characters last year
(yes Leon was also on GC), and Pikachu. He stuck out like all hell.
Riku isn't going to be given that same benefit with Ramza there, or
Laharl. That's a split in the RPG vote right there, and one less person
Leon has to worry about siphoning his votes. Not to mention Riku is a
PS character as well. Pikachu had the perfect storm, and I seriously
doubt Riku's going to be able to replicate it. --- eat me |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/14/2008 8:59:44 AM | message detail |
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In some defense of Leon last year, I think Pikachu might have
underperformed for some reason in the second round. If you crunch the
numbers, Leon went from getting around 55-56% on Vivi to getting 60% on
him. On the other hand, Pikachu's numbers against Tidus stayed mostly
the same. Now either Tidus avoided LFF while rSFFing Vivi at the same
time, or Pikachu just fluked out an underperformance for some reason. Take that, people complaining about him advancing due to fanbsase split! --- ""This is my chance to avenge my father's death. This time, he won't walk away.""--Ike |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/14/2008 9:10:57 AM | message detail |
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Or Isaac was hurting Pikachu --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 9:14:53 AM | message detail |
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Which would be the blatantly obvious rational behind the match. It's
not like they're both stars of RPG's on the same handheld or anything
nope, not at all. Not to mention that Leon probably benefitted from the
"sore thumb" theory just a round before Pikachu did, thus enhancing the
effects. Sharing the poll with two other RPG characters + Mistah
Kennedy might just do that to you. Anyone expecting another miracle out of Riku is deluding themselves. --- eat me |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/14/2008 9:21:39 AM | message detail |
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Or Isaac was hurting Pikachu I'm talking about the second round. --- ""This is my chance to avenge my father's death. This time, he won't walk away.""--Ike |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/14/2008 9:22:49 AM | message detail |
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If standing out like a sore thumb is the rational here, there is
potential for Kirby to stand out something major if he makes it there.
He would be up again some combination of Big Boss, Master Chief, Dante,
Leon, and maybe Riku (who would be the worst for Kirby in this
situation)... ...in fact, if that worked for Pikachu, it could work for Kirby next round even better since there's no doubt BB and Raiden share a fanbase. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 9:28:19 AM | message detail |
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The Kirbster might not even need the sore thumb effect to get past the
next round, thanks to BB and Raiden having just about as much overlap
as anyone could possibly ever have. It's pretty funny how BB is still
being given the benefit of the doubt in advancing next round while Leon
is being thrown under the bus. Pretty hypocritical standpoint for
anyone who believes that imo. Anyway, the sore thumb can only help out
Kirby even more, which is pretty much why I'm confident in his ability
to take win next round. I have MC > Kirby at the end of the MC/Kirby/Dante/Leon/Riku/BB/Raiden/Jesus mess, but wouldn't be too surprised to see Kirby > MC, Kirby > Dante, or Dante > Kirby as well. I'm pretty confident Kirby finishes somewhere in the top 2, and that Leon doesn't finish at all. But honestly, so many different things can happen there it's pretty ridiculous. --- eat me |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/14/2008 9:51:12 AM | message detail |
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It's pretty funny how BB is still being given the benefit of the
doubt in advancing next round while Leon is being thrown under the bus.
Pretty hypocritical standpoint for anyone who believes that imo. To be fair, Big Boss is heavily favored over Raiden in the SFF-department while Dante is heavily favored over Leon. BB and Leon each have a lot of room between them and Kirby/Riku though, I'm with ya on that. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/14/2008 9:53:26 AM | message detail |
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We haven't seen Ramza since 2003 so I decided to make a list of what
was the last contest each character has been in. (excluding this
contest) SC2k2 Abe Akira Yuki Aya Brea Bub Chop Chop Master Onion Dirk the Daring Gabe Logan Goemon Iori Yagami Kane Kazuya Kyo Morrigan Mr. Driller Ms. Pac-Man Pitfall Harry Q*Bert Serious Sam Servbot Strider Tina Armstrong Ulala Total: 22 SC2k3 AiAi Felix Ken Masters Kite Mr. Resetti Raziel Total: 6 SC2k4 Earthworm Jim JC Denton Kain Max Payne Protoman Ryo Hazuki Sly Cooper Tanner Terry Bogard Total: 9 Sp2k5 Albedo Andross Ansem Dr. Robotnik Dr. Wily Ghaleon Giygas Kuja Lavos Luca Blight M. Bison Master Hand Mithos Mother Brain Nemesis Officer Tenpenny Ramirez Sigma Sin Ultros Total: 20 SC2k5 Carl Johnson Conker Jin Kazama King of All Cosmos Manny Calavera Yuri Hyuga Total: 6 SC2k6 Alyx Vance Amy Rose Carmen Sandiego Celes Chere Chun Li Claire Redfield Cortana Ivy Valentine Jade Joanna Dark Kairi Kasumi Lenneth Valkyrie Marle Nidoran F Princess Daisy Roll Sheena Fujibayashi Soma Cruz Terra Branford Total: 20 SC2k7 Ada Wong Aeris Gainsborough Agent 47 Agent J Akuma Axel Bidoof Bomberman Daxter Diablo Haseo HK-47 Jak Lara Croft Little Mac Matt Midgar Zolom Nathan Hale PaRappa the Rapper Prince of All Cosmos Prince of Persia Princess Peach Pyramid Head Rayman Ridley Rikku Sam Fisher Sarah Kerrigan Serge Simon Belmont Spyro the Dragon The Boss Thrall Tingle Toad Tommy Vercetti Vaan Vergil Viewtiful Joe Vyse Yuna Zelos Wilder Total: 42 We should rally for Ken next contest. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 81/104 Today's Match: Riku > Leon |
| Water Sitar | Posted 10/14/2008 10:08:07 AM | message detail |
| Yeah, I think Ken is the best character to bring back. |
| vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 10:08:38 AM | message detail |
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Deserving characters from that list: Ken Masters Raziel Kain Max Payne Jin Kazama Chun Li Terra Branford Ada Wong Aeris Gainsborough Akuma Axel Diablo Prince of Persia Pyramid Head Rikku The Boss Tommy Vercetti Vergil Yuna I'll agree with Ken deserving a rally. I'll admit I put Kain/Raziel on this list perhaps out of favoritism, but whatever. The others are all legitimate and possibly interesting to see what they can do. Pyramid Head beat Chris... obviously he probably couldn't do that again, but it'd be nice to see him in this format without Horror SFF. Max Payne... the movie is coming out soon, could impact him somewhat, maybe. Most of the others sort of speak for themselves. They are certainly more worthy than the ton of crap entries we've seen this year. --- :> |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/14/2008 10:09:59 AM | message detail |
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I'm glad to see Abe was mentioned; I'm playing through Oddworld: Abe's Exodus now and miss the guy! Also, somebody should compile a win-loss record of all those snubs and compare it to the records of the characters this year that have been in at least one other contest before -- no newcomers this year. Out of all of the ones you listed, I think there have only been about eighteen victories total from them (not counting second-place finishes from last year)...I'm pretty sure Link has twenty-eight, Cloud has eighteen, and Sephiroth has twentyeach before this contest. That's not counting the rest of the returning characters we have this year. Pretty wild. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 10:11:43 AM | message detail |
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Lara Croft deserves a chance to come back. Obviously shes not very
strong and all, but she's still stronger and better to have in then
alot of the turbo fodder we have this year. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 10:12:23 AM | message detail |
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That sounds like a pretty big job... but it's safe to say none of them have the terrible record Guybrush does. --- :> |
| vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 10:12:54 AM | message detail |
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Lara does, must have missed her. My mistake. --- :> |
| H__RR____H | Posted 10/14/2008 10:14:17 AM | message detail |
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I'd like to see Ridley again now that he has two boss-fights in SSBB,
just to see if it affected him at all to be a boss in a bigger game
than he's ever been in before...and -- BT be damned -- Protoman both
out of favoritism and the off-chance Zero really messed him up. I'd
probably replace those two with Kain/Raziel. Otherwise, vcharon has the
list about the way I'd have it. --- Lobby Hero http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3079/lobbyheroauditionflyerssv6.jpg |
| The Mana Sword | Posted 10/14/2008 10:15:54 AM | message detail |
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Dunno if this is worth mentioning but apparently Gamespot is running
some kind of Capcom character battle right now the format is pretty
silly but the results thus far are moderately interesting. This one's actual a supposed to be a "who would win in a fight" thing, but still. http://www.gamespot.com/character-battle/15/capcom --- Kleenex - Not on his computer. |
| BagFries | Posted 10/14/2008 10:18:17 AM | message detail |
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To be fair, Big Boss is heavily favored over Raiden in the SFF-department while Dante is heavily favored over Leon. BB and Leon each have a lot of room between them and Kirby/Riku though, I'm with ya on that. Yeah, difference is one is guaranteed significant fanbase overlap, the other not so much. --- eat me |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 10:19:08 AM | message detail |
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| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 10:21:26 AM | message detail |
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According to that battle.. 1. Ryu 2. Dante 3. Ken 4. Nero 5. Leon Kennedy Mega Man isn't even top 5 o.O --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/14/2008 10:29:32 AM | message detail |
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I'm not convinced about this whole "Kirby might slip by" due to
Raiden-BB SFF (or rather, "LFF") thing next round. Considering BB
>>>> Kirby and Raiden << Chief, one has to at least
consider the MGS vote to approach/exceed 50%, and no matter the split
then, at least one of them gets by. I understand that LFF compensates
for this otherwise obvious +50% stock in the vote, but they'll still be
getting in the 40s together at least. Furthermore, I think the consensus here (rightfully so) is that BB >>> Raiden and Chief >> Kirby. In this case, the poll ending in Master Chief > Kirby is highly unlikely. You'd have to give Big Boss + Raiden like 35% or something. In short, if Big Boss gets another MGS3 pic, color me surprised if both Chief and Kirby advance. But that's not going to have nearly the impact that Dante-Leon SFF will have. After all, Leon went from beating Pika by 9% to losing by 10%. And Ramza, if he makes it, will be hurting Riku more than anyone else, though I don't think that'll even be necessary. I understand that Ramza will have a smaller impact than Dante, but I'm saying Ramza's just bonus. Riku has no reason for a Pikachu-level increase. --- 90/108. Today : Dante > Ramza. Tomorrow : Sonic > Magus Those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak - Soviet adage |
| BDawg | Posted 10/14/2008 10:54:05 AM | message detail |
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That list of 2006 snubs brings back the horror, THE HORROR. Oh yeah and
hi there Soma Cruz among female fodder. Really Chun Li is the only one
of that list that deserves to come back, and even then it isn't really
a major travesty or anything. --- Should I start running now? |
| TestIcicles | Posted 10/14/2008 10:56:36 AM | message detail |
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At this point if I won the guru (not gonna happen), I'd probably choose
Ken or Chris Redfield for the rally nom. That or one of the general
classes from Diablo 3... or Prince of Persia if the new game is
sexgasmic. --- mmm test icicles |
| vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 10:59:19 AM | message detail |
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I'm pretty sure the list of '08 fodder/no returns will be just as "impressive" as any other year, perhaps moreso. --- :> |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/14/2008 11:02:07 AM | message detail |
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I'm rallying for Starfox 64 or Diablo 2. Haven't made up my mind yet. No idea for character. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| hellfire104 | Posted 10/14/2008 11:02:47 AM | message detail |
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MC > Mirby next round. BB will get a non MGS3, and he will lose. SFF to **** by a much stronger raiden. Even with the MGS3 pic, Kirby wins. --- Contest Point Total: 77 Rank: 98%tile, Tied for 396 This Pick: Leon Kennedy > Riku |
| vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 11:10:15 AM | message detail |
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... wait a second, Raiden is stronger than Big Boss now? --- :> |
| TRE Public Account | Posted 10/14/2008 11:11:50 AM | message detail |
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Mega Man isn't even top 5 o.O Mega Man can't hurt humans, right? A lot of the opponents are human so Mega Man won't do very well. --- To right the countless wrongs of our day, we shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise. What a wonderful world such would be |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 11:12:31 AM | message detail |
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TRE Public Account (#133) I doubt many people are really voting for "who would win in a fight" though, those things always turn into popularity contests no matter official rules --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| TRE Public Account | Posted 10/14/2008 11:21:08 AM | message detail |
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While true, the people who vote for more than a few matches are more
likely to be people who read the rules. Also through the GameFAQs
contest is a popularity contest, you still see people who take it as a
"who would win in a fight" contest. --- To right the countless wrongs of our day, we shine this light of true redemption, that this place may become as paradise. What a wonderful world such would be |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/14/2008 11:27:01 AM | message detail |
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I've honestly never understood why Mega Man is so strong here to begin with. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 11:33:19 AM | message detail |
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If I had to guess with no prior knowledge of the contests, I'd think Megaman would be top 20 character, but not noble 9. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 11:35:26 AM | message detail |
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Seems I'm safe with my bold prediction of Riku finishing closer to 3rd place finisher then Leon. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/14/2008 11:35:29 AM | message detail |
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Same. Unlike Mario or Sonic, he's never been the face of a system, and his best years are long behind him. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| TestIcicles | Posted 10/14/2008 11:36:29 AM | message detail |
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Pretty hilarious that Leon > Capt Mac was a better pick than Riku > Leon --- mmm test icicles |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 11:37:18 AM | message detail |
| Then again, I'd also not even put Crono in top 20
with no prior knowledge of the contests since I've never gotten what
makes him so strong yet other clasic RPG characters aren't, even if its
my favorite game. I was shocked in 2002 when he did so well. --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/14/2008 11:46:00 AM | message detail |
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The thing with Crono is that going off previous knowledge, the site
obviously loves Chrono Trigger and Square-Enix in general. I don't
understand Mega Man. There's no history of this site loving his games,
even his franchise kind of sucked it up in the series contest. --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 11:51:27 AM | message detail |
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MegatokyoEd (#142) Going by that knowledge, Kefka would be pretty strong too though --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Link The Hylian | Posted 10/14/2008 11:56:41 AM | message detail |
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Replace Layton in yesterdays match with Leon. Who wins and what are the percentages? --- "The PS2 had 12,000,000 pre orders. To give you an idea of how many people that is that's over half of the world population." - DifferentialEquation |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/14/2008 12:02:13 PM | message detail |
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Ken is the only character who's been gone since 2003 worth bringing back. Seriously, he got *****y draws both times. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 12:03:23 PM | message detail |
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Didn't he face both Samus and Sonic? Thats hardly any way to show strength --- Albion Hero http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/14/2008 12:10:59 PM | message detail |
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Also, fun fact: Soma Cruz is the only member of the 2005 male bracket to not have appeared in a contest since. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST! |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/14/2008 12:11:17 PM | message detail |
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*2006 oops --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. ALLEN LIED! PEOPLE LOST THEIR ABILITY TO CONTEST! |
| Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/14/2008 12:26:41 PM | message detail |
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IMO, Gabe Logan deserves another shot at this. He got a crappy draw, going against Sephiroth. --- Isaac and Princess Kumatora for SSB4! SSBB Mains: Zelda, Peach, Lucas, Ness Now we must duel, like two gleaming banjos on a moonlit stoop! -Dimentio, SPM |
| MasaHikoTron | Posted 10/14/2008 12:26:59 PM | message detail |
| If we ever have that video game contest, we're
getting in Persona 3 damnit >_> even if it equals to about
Xenogears strength I'll be happy <_< Also, the reason Crono does so well is because Chrono Trigger was a one of a kind RPG for the SNES. There's no other games like it, and it's easily one of the most popular ROMs out there, so obviously there's a strong fanbase out there. Sure it diminishes each year, but the fact remains. --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
