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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/13/2008 9:56:20 PM | message detail
Ryu H gets like 3% of his strength if that from DoA. His strength is obviously all from the Xbox Ninja Gaiden's.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/13/2008 9:57:28 PM | message detail
His strength is mostly from Ninja Gaiden, yes. But he gets strength from Dead or Alive obviously too. If characters from Dead or Alive were popular enough to get in before, without any other games, then obviously he gets SOME support from Dead or Alive since he's by FAR the most played character in the game.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/13/2008 9:58:17 PM | message detail
Also, don't forget that Ryu was basically only known as a Dead or Alive character until Ninja Gaiden, since he hadn't had a game in about 10 years by the time Dead or Alive became popular. So alot of people probably think Ninja Gaiden is just an offshoot of Dead or Alive.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/13/2008 10:02:54 PM | message detail
Looking at votals of the first hour, its about the same as any other match, so seems 4chan didn't care to really rally for him at all. Its actually 2k less then yesterdays match in the first hour.
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Lopen | Posted 10/13/2008 10:02:55 PM | message detail
I will end you for this blasphemy.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/13/2008 10:40:53 PM | message detail
Who was 4chan supposed to rally behind, the seaweed guy?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/13/2008 10:41:20 PM | message detail

ffmasterjose (#056)
Who was 4chan supposed to rally behind, the seaweed guy?



Yeah, from what I heard they rallied to get him into the contest.
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vcharon | Posted 10/13/2008 11:28:46 PM | message detail
Resident Evil looks better than usual this year.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/13/2008 11:56:59 PM | message detail
RE5 hype.

Lord help me that statement was not completely made in jest.
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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 12:11:20 AM | message detail
Riku perplexes me. Sora looked quite good in his match, even with a pic that I was sure was bound to make him do worse...

Then again, I'm sure Riku will go up doing the day as usual. Still, he's well short of what I expected him to be able to do following in the wake of Sora's resounding victory.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/14/2008 3:45:12 AM | message detail
lol at the 3 tied updates between sieg and macmillan, each with 47 votes
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/14/2008 3:49:13 AM | message detail
Just wait till the kiddies get home!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 4:43:06 AM | message detail
REFAQs! Watch out, Ocelot! Wow, Leon's smoking Riku here. Man, I've got to play RE4 to see what the big deal is here. Good thing I didn't actually take Riku > Leon in my bracket, eh? I still say Riku's got a good shot next round because the exact same things happened both to Leon and Riku last year. It just ticks me off that someone who seems to be as strong as Leon is will be wasted in this bracket. Once again, great job of bracket placement, Bacon.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 4:48:05 AM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Kain | The Chief | Layton | Raiden
PHV | 26.01% | 34.32% | 10.55% | 29.13% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 27.28% | 32.70% | 9.85% | 30.17% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 26.33% | 34.97% | 10.02% | 28.68% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 25.24% | 37.39% | 9.26% | 28.11% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 24.21% | 39.70% | 8.82% | 27.26% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 24.88% | 38.13% | 8.87% | 28.12% | (22:00-24:00)

Man, the Chief is behaving like a Nintendo character here! Good Power Hour, bad night vote, pick it right back up in the morning! His ASV was a little subdued this year, but his during school vote was really strong, too. Perhaps Columbus Day did have an effect on him! Raiden was pretty consistent all around, and while Kain progressively slipped as the match went on, he held up very well. I'd go so far as to say that was the best performance we've ever seen out of a pre-FFVII Final Fantasy character, and he didn't even place! He actually held up fairly well during the day, even with the Chief's day vote.

LOL Kain's not a fan favorite

Yesterday's stats:

Master Chief – 50.00%
Raiden – 43.50%
Kain Highwind – 40.84%
Professor Layton – 20.33%
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 6:45:33 AM | message detail
So at the very least, hopefully people will shut up about Riku actually being a higher mid carder.
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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 6:54:15 AM | message detail
I think it should. I'm wondering how close Leon should be to being a top 25 member though... he's looking really strong here.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 6:55:29 AM | message detail
I'd say with this performance, he should be top 25 now... Its not easy to put up 43%, regardless of competition
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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 6:57:23 AM | message detail
I'm inclined to agree with that. It's sad we'll never really know how strong he is, since he'll be once again wasted on Dante.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 6:59:45 AM | message detail
I don't think its a given he won't make it past next round. I'd say right now Leon needs to be the favorite to advance, because even if Dante and Leon do SFF, Riku just looks too pathetic to take advantage of it.
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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 7:02:21 AM | message detail
My bracket actually has Dante > Leon (I'm not sure what I was thinking), so that'd be nice to see actually. I think I was banking on Ramza advancing and SFFing Riku enough to let Leon slip through.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:06:26 AM | message detail
Even if Dante does shave 10% off of Leon, then Ramza should SFF Riku for being Square, and Dante should SFF Riku a tiny bit for being popular PS2 games. I just don't see it looking good for Riku right now.
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Japago | Posted 10/14/2008 7:08:23 AM | message detail
I don't think its a given he won't make it past next round. I'd say right now Leon needs to be the favorite to advance, because even if Dante and Leon do SFF, Riku just looks too pathetic to take advantage of it.

I wouldn't count it out though. Pikachu went from losing to Leon by 9% to beating him by 10%. I think it'll be close. It would be even closer if Hogger advances tomorrow instead of Ramza.

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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 7:11:05 AM | message detail
The biggest problem with Dante > Leon is Ramza... first of all he has to advance, which isn't exactly a given. He's a Square character sure... but let's face it, he's from FFT. FFIX has looked good in this contest... hell even FFIV has looked good. But I don't have much faith in him.

If he were say, Rikku... then yeah, I'd think Dante > Leon would be a near lock. Rikku might actually be able to beat Riku if he's really as pathetic as he's looking here.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:12:03 AM | message detail
SNF = Same Name Factor
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/14/2008 7:14:32 AM | message detail
Don't act like Rikku is a slouch. She's more than proven that her 2k5 match with Ryu was legit!!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:16:29 AM | message detail
If Hogger advances (which seems unlikely at this point seeing as how WoW patch day is today, so they'll be too busy playing new patch to vote for Hogger), then Riku does stand a much greater chance, maybe even being favorite.
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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 7:16:42 AM | message detail
Anyway, Hogger has next to no chance. I'll say he won't even break 10% and will end up behind Laharl. He's a joke only WoW players are going to get, and unlike I first heard here, his match is the day after the patch. So it went from being "everything is happening to make Hogger place" to "everything is happening to make Hogger not place".

Arthas had Warcraft players, who don't play WoW, to fall back on. That and his face is plastered all over this site in ads. Hogger will be pretty bad honestly, I think maybe even Tim level bad.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:18:18 AM | message detail

vcharon (#077)
Anyway, Hogger has next to no chance. I'll say he won't even break 10% and will end up behind Laharl. He's a joke only WoW players are going to get, and unlike I first heard here, his match is the day after the patch. So it went from being "everything is happening to make Hogger place" to "everything is happening to make Hogger not place".

Arthas had Warcraft players, who don't play WoW, to fall back on. That and his face is plastered all over this site in ads. Hogger will be pretty bad honestly, I think maybe even Tim level bad.



He won't be tim level bad, since at least he has an active fanbase thats pretty big on this site (WoW is one of the most popular game boards), but yeah, he isn't advancing due to the circumstances of the patch.
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consolefreak | Posted 10/14/2008 7:18:51 AM | message detail
I really don't see Riku beating Leon next round after this. It's not like Dante and Riku are entirely unrelated. And Ramza, if he makes it, will be hurting Riku more than anyone else, though I don't think that'll even be necessary.


It just ticks me off that someone who seems to be as strong as Leon is will be wasted in this bracket. Once again, great job of bracket placement, Bacon.

I gotta say the second round is looking pretty good though. You can make a case for 3 characters possibly advancing in pretty much every match, which is a very good thing.

This sort of thing can be annoying though, I'm personally most baffled at the Tifa placement. Seriously, what was he thinking there.


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vcharon | Posted 10/14/2008 7:20:54 AM | message detail
Tifa's placement is by far the worst. I think he must be some raging Samus fanboy pissed off that Tifa made her look like a joke (no offense =D).

But yeah, to waste a top 15 character by starting her off with Sephiroth from the very beginning is absurd.
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/14/2008 7:21:22 AM | message detail
And Ramza, if he makes it, will be hurting Riku more than anyone else, though I don't think that'll even be necessary.

But that's not going to have nearly the impact that Dante-Leon SFF will have. After all, Leon went from beating Pika by 9% to losing by 10%.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:22:00 AM | message detail
Especially after Tifa didnt even make it last year. This is 2 wasted years for her now, cuz she'll look pathetic this year with Sephiroth with her.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:32:08 AM | message detail
Seems Leon still has the day vote over Riku... Riku has to hope to stop the bleeding with ASV
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:35:17 AM | message detail
If he were say, Rikku... then yeah, I'd think Dante > Leon would be a near lock.

Rikku who nearly beat Knuckles despite being LFF'd? Sonic Team stinkin' it up in this format or not, that's pretty good.

But yeah, Riku isn't even looking to be as strong as Vivi here, which actually makes the Black Mage's performance against Snake make more sense. Unless Leon has had a boost, which looking at Chris Redfield's performance, isn't entirely out of the realm of possibility.

And seriously, don't count Riku out, despite how bad this is. Everyone counted him out last year after how bad he looked last year in round 1, and he still advanced. People seem to forget just how bad the Dante/Leon split was. He lost 10% between round 2 and round 3, and he'll lose at least that much next round, too. He ain't gettin' 30%+ with Dante in the poll with him. And I don't get why people are calling for Riku to be hindered by Dante and/or Leon. It won't be anywhere near significant. Ramza might hurt him a bit, but not nearly to the extent of Dante/Leon.

And as far as wasted bracket placement, Tifa, Auron, and Squall all come to mind, along with Leon here.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:36:07 AM | message detail
KH's power is in the ASV, not now. Riku will go up later. This time frame is actually more advantageous for characters who are more night oriented.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:38:01 AM | message detail
That better be true, cuz Riku can't handle updates like this in a time he's supposed to be doing well:

Captain MacMillan - 10.23%
Leon Kennedy - 48.83%
Riku - 24.31%
Siegfried Schtauffen - 16.63%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:39:28 AM | message detail
Sora didn't noticeably improve until the ASV and neither did Roxas. Same for Axel during that comeback against Frog. Should be the same for Riku.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/14/2008 7:44:37 AM | message detail
Even so, the sun is up, but Riku has like one update the entire match where he's been within 10% of Leon. I can't help but think this Leon is a lot stronger than even last year, where he was damn impressive.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:49:48 AM | message detail
I'm scared to see Chris next year seeing both his match and Leons match...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:50:58 AM | message detail
Again, this isn't Riku's time. Sora and Roxas didn't improve AT ALL until the ASV. That's just how KH rolls. But the KH ASV hasn't been that great so far this year. A noticeable improvement, but not a drastic leap like other years. Same for MC's ASV yesterday.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:52:37 AM | message detail
And if this is a stronger Leon than last year, he should probably stand up to Dante better, which would help his chances. Heh, if we get Kirby/MC/Dante/Leon in round 3, I'd say Kirby has a good shot at first.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:52:41 AM | message detail
At this point, Riku will be lucky to hit 28% when the match is over.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:53:24 AM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#091)
And if this is a stronger Leon than last year, he should probably stand up to Dante better, which would help his chances. Heh, if we get Kirby/MC/Dante/Leon in round 3, I'd say Kirby has a good shot at first.



The same kirby who got 48% on him by a second tier MGS character?
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/14/2008 7:54:50 AM | message detail
Why not? It's not like Chief didn't bomb too. If Raiden weren't there, I'd be considering Big Boss beating Chief next round.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:55:47 AM | message detail

WarThaNemesis2 (#094)
Why not? It's not like Chief didn't bomb too. If Raiden weren't there, I'd be considering Big Boss beating Chief next round.



Chief still got more % then Kirby did.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/14/2008 7:56:53 AM | message detail
By .04%, despite Kirby having two May-as-Well be Nintendo exclusives in his poll.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/14/2008 7:57:28 AM | message detail
Plus, if it comes down to Kirby and Chief being really close, bracket voters will give Chief the win, since I'd bet at least 70% of the brackets have Chief first, with Kriby having barely any.
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Japago | Posted 10/14/2008 7:57:31 AM | message detail
Why not? It's not like Chief didn't bomb too. If Raiden weren't there, I'd be considering Big Boss beating Chief next round.

This reminds me. Are we assuming BB gets a Naked Snake pic in every round now?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/14/2008 7:58:06 AM | message detail
Chief got a higher percentage because he won and another character wasn't sucking up 48% of the vote. The proportion between Big Boss and Kirby is practically equal to the proportion between MC and Raiden. Kirby's stronger than Riku, I'd wager, and Chief ain't the beast he was last year.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/14/2008 7:58:29 AM | message detail
With HM around, I wouldn't surprised if he already submitted a dozen Naked Snake pictures for BB.

But either way, the guy's screwed Round 3, even if he somehow advances again.
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