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wavedash101 | Posted 10/13/2008 12:16:45 AM | message detail
MS controls the franchise, not Bungie. They can say whatever they want, but Chief will be in more games. Its not they really wrapped up his story leaving him hanging like that at the end of 3 anways.
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The_Ocelot2 | Posted 10/13/2008 12:19:41 AM | message detail
I really don't think Microsoft is going to hand off development of Halo 4 to anyone but Bungie and if Bungie is making it, you aren't playing as Master Chief.

Either way, we're getting off topic. I gave my reason for why Chief isn't going to do as well this year.
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Tohoya | Posted 10/13/2008 12:26:22 AM | message detail
All this talk about the "OMG it's a dragoon" votes has me thinkin we should nominate Black Mage from FF1. He'd probably be a solid midcarder, don'tcha think?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2008 12:31:59 AM | message detail
So is Kain and Raiden really strong, or is MC really weak?

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Lopen | Posted 10/13/2008 12:32:28 AM | message detail
Red Mage would be a cooler experiment. We've already got Vivi, anyway.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2008 12:34:29 AM | message detail
Fighter would be the best. Because it's so cute...

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3&pos=33
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vcharon | Posted 10/13/2008 12:42:30 AM | message detail
Mostly, this is all MC being weak. Kain is secondary with being a lot stronger than people thought. Raiden is doing about as expected, percentage wise at least.
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transience | Posted 10/13/2008 1:03:33 AM | message detail
my god, Kain is winning updates on Master Chief.

what is going on
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/13/2008 1:12:05 AM | message detail
Zack Fair is a monster confirmed
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/13/2008 1:25:38 AM | message detail
Master Cheif is a pile of ass = confirmed.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/13/2008 1:25:42 AM | message detail
Let's try this:

Kratos
Master Chief
Revolver Ocelot
Vivi
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transience | Posted 10/13/2008 1:36:46 AM | message detail
forget that, what about this

Big Boss
Kirby
Raiden
Master Chief

(Chief > uhh Ocelot)
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MasaHikoTron | Posted 10/13/2008 1:38:44 AM | message detail
I'm so glad Chief is choking.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 10/13/2008 1:44:33 AM | message detail
Any chance of Kirby > Chief next round? ;__;
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MasaHikoTron | Posted 10/13/2008 1:46:50 AM | message detail
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MasaHikoTron | Posted 10/13/2008 1:47:10 AM | message detail
So why is Kain good but not the other FFIV guy?
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2008 1:48:58 AM | message detail
Kain is just to badass to not do well here.

I'm starting to think that Rydia might advance. TJF FTW!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/13/2008 1:52:40 AM | message detail
Because Cecil got stuck with Someone Named Zack, who sucked all his blood from him.

How I wish Rydia would advance. Not happening with Auron around though :/
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/13/2008 2:07:24 AM | message detail
so here's my quick observation:

The main character of a game has been known to perform far better than the fan favorite in GF contests (Cloud/Sephiroth or Vincent; Crono/Magus or Frog; Phoenix/Edgeworth; Luke/Jade Curtiss), except when there are something else that can draw vote for that fan favorite (Vivi/Zidane). Therefore, unless Zack is super awesome and/or Master Chief is super sucky, I would have to believe that Kain has something else going on for him to perform as beastly as this. As has been said before, the name "Highwind" is one possibility and the other one being his "Dragoon" look-a-like (like Vivi) getting votes from the rest of FF fans. It is highly unlikely that this is coming from Kain's strength alone tbqh (i.e. without TBF and Highwind Factor)

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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/13/2008 2:09:57 AM | message detail
So why is Kain good but not the other FFIV guy?

He's probably not, Master Chief is just far worse than expected.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/13/2008 2:11:42 AM | message detail
He isnt. He's getting the whole FF/Squeenix vote.
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Smurf FAQs | Posted 10/13/2008 2:15:10 AM | message detail
And MC's getting the whole Xbox vote, Raiden's getting the Sony vote. It's a no SFF match there's no real excuse here for anyone.
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/13/2008 2:16:40 AM | message detail
Kain cut Masterchief again, he's only 2000 votes behind he can do it ^_^

And Kain > Cecil makes perfect sense to me.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/13/2008 2:20:49 AM | message detail
Yeah, it's not like Kain hasn't done 10% better than Cecil against the same opponent before <_<
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/13/2008 2:22:29 AM | message detail
oh 'whoops' that's the wrong Kain never mind
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/13/2008 2:24:15 AM | message detail

vcharon | Posted 10/13/2008 2:35:27 AM (#163)
Kain is not Vivi... dragoon is not a very popular class in Final Fantasy. That's hardly comparable.

I believe in the pic factor. But if you're asking me if I believe if people vote for Kain because of his last name being the same as a FF7 character and an airship or if half of Big Boss' voters honestly thought he was Snake... then no, no I do not.




After yesterday, who doesn't believe in pic factor. I've denied it for years, but it's just canon at this point.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 10/13/2008 2:26:50 AM | message detail
I will repeat because this is relevant to the interests of my upset bracket

Any chance of Kirby > Chief?
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/13/2008 2:34:40 AM | message detail
Kirby failed to impress yesterday, so master chief doesn't really need a whole lot to beat him. If MC gets less percentage than kirby yesterday, I would say there's a good chance that upset will happen. In fact, if MC% is less than Kirby's by the end of the match, Kirby > Big Boss > MC or Big Boss > Kirby > MC train will start to warm up tbqh
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linkhatesganon | Posted 10/13/2008 2:57:13 AM | message detail
Can Big Boss advance even with Raiden LFFing him?
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/13/2008 3:04:47 AM | message detail
yeah if he got that snake with an eyepatch pic again. did you see yesterday? getting 48% in any 4-way match is no joke, especially with one strong midcarder in the match as well. not even vincent/squall can manage that >_>
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/13/2008 3:05:34 AM | message detail
*checks poll for the first time* Yikes.

Master Chief is totally cracking 50% >_>

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linkhatesganon | Posted 10/13/2008 3:15:29 AM | message detail
Yeah of course, it's desillusional to think that the pic didn't make any influence (*stares Vlado)

So...let's sabotage it! Let's use this pic for next round

http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/569/images/big_boss.jpg

Now I only I knew to use photoshop >__>
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vcharon | Posted 10/13/2008 3:50:46 AM | message detail
Rather static since last I checked. Chief is flopping back and forth with updates. Wins some nice ones, then he just sucks 5 minutes later. Raiden has pulled off from Kain a little bit... it was nice to see Kain do well, but I'm pretty sure the night vote was his strongest time.
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General_Zimbad | Posted 10/13/2008 3:55:09 AM | message detail
Hmm, its bad enough that Raiden is beating Kain; but seriously if he beats Chief, I get 1 point, and then I'm going to be like D: cause I'll have got 1 point two days in a row.
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greatone10 | Posted 10/13/2008 4:00:55 AM | message detail
It's a shame we got Layton as the fourth entry. Imagine if we got say Sub-Zero here. We could be having a 25-25-25-25 affair.
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greatone10 | Posted 10/13/2008 4:13:46 AM | message detail

linkhatesganon (#232)
Yeah of course, it's desillusional to think that the pic didn't make any influence (*stares Vlado)

So...let's sabotage it! Let's use this pic for next round

http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/569/images/big_boss.jpg

Now I only I knew to use photoshop >__>



http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9515/bigbossr2vj9.png

In all seriousness (since I really don't see Allen picking this), one has to wonder what this all means next round. Kirby and Chief aren't really looking great and the MGS crew is, but that just means Raiden could very well hinder Big Boss quite a bit. And even if Big Boss advances, there is no way he's winning in Round 3, because you know the sprite round will turn him into total fodder.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 10/13/2008 4:40:27 AM | message detail
This strength obviously comes from the last name "Highwind," which attracts the FFVII fanboys.

Obviously.
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Tarrot | Posted 10/13/2008 4:51:00 AM | message detail
Just random thinking, but I'm thinking Kain still has an outside shot at an upset. If Chief dominates the day-vote, he's probably going to hurt Raiden more than Kain (Raiden is from the same era, a closer genre compared to Chief than either Kain or Kain/Chief) and that if Kain gets rallied at all, he could make up the difference. I doubt he could pull a Frog level comeback, but I could see Kain, who in between losing updates here and there, is keeping relatively close to Raiden.
greatone10 | Posted 10/13/2008 4:53:23 AM | message detail
Old Square is hideous with the day vote. Kain's not doing anything.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2008 5:52:19 AM | message detail
SquareFAQs and MGS4FAQs at work here, folks! And MC's going the way of Crash Bandicoot to the garbage pile of failed mascots!

...This match makes me wish I had Ocelot going to round three now. It'll be interesting to see what he can do to Kratos in a few days. All things MGS4 have impressed so far.

Question: Would Snake actually benefit from an Old Snake pic at this point?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2008 5:54:52 AM | message detail
And I must say that this match makes me happy, with Kain and Raiden doing so well with the Chief flopping. He should be the lone day vote guy here (though if Layton is more day than night, I wouldn't be surprised, but he doesn't matter), so that ASV will be good to him. He's getting 36-37% max at this point though.
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greatone10 | Posted 10/13/2008 5:58:05 AM | message detail

LeonhartFour (#240)
Question: Would Snake actually benefit from an Old Snake pic at this point?



Neutral. I could see him doing slightly better with a young Snake picture, but I don't see it adversely affecting him very much.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2008 5:59:32 AM | message detail
Question: Would Snake actually benefit from an Old Snake pic at this point?

At this point I'd take melting art over the albatross that are SSBB pics everyone abandon the Nintendo ship
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2008 6:00:21 AM | message detail
By the way, with the Chief's performance here, anyone think Kirby could beat him out for first next round?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2008 6:04:49 AM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Big Boss | Jinjo | Kirby | Lucas
PHV | 45.09% | 13.39% | 35.60% | 5.92% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 50.29% | 9.70% | 34.63% | 5.38% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 49.68% | 8.21% | 37.46% | 4.65% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 46.28% | 9.59% | 38.63% | 5.50% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 48.49% | 8.61% | 36.83% | 6.07% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 49.73% | 8.41% | 35.56% | 6.29% | (22:00-24:00)

The night vote for Big Boss was beastly. Seriously, averaging 50% updates for about 8 hours is sick. Jinjo was board vote and not much else. Kirby did well with the morning and early afternoon vote. Neither he nor Big Boss did well with the Power Hour (relatively), mostly because of Jinjo, I'd imagine. Big Boss actually did well in the afternoon. MGS has been doing pretty well with the day vote so far this year. Liquid's been the only one who's really gone down with it, and then not that much.

Yesterday's stats:

Big Boss – 50.00%
Kirby – 43.34%
Jinjo – 16.48%
Lucas – 10.52%
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/13/2008 6:05:45 AM | message detail
Am I the only one who thinks http://www.square-enix.co.jp/ff4ds/swf/dl_images/3dcg_9s.jpg would be doing better here? Altair managed to tear up faces due to awesome design, so...

Also not seeing how people were laughing at an MM9 boost. If it is as hard as people claim, people will be coming to Game"FAQs" for help. Even if no new MM fans are created by the game, more of them will be coming to the site because of it.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/13/2008 6:09:52 AM | message detail
Its FAQs hits dropped off pretty quickly though.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/13/2008 6:32:10 AM | message detail
We're just not seeing terribly dramatic day/night shifts this year. I wouldn't even expect anything earth-shaking from MC himself today, and he's got about as favorable competition as he could have hoped for.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/13/2008 6:34:58 AM | message detail
I would laugh so hard if Kain starts catching on fire during the day vote. >_>
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hellfire104 | Posted 10/13/2008 6:36:14 AM | message detail
With these results, the next round will be; Master Chief, Raiden, Big Boss, Kirby

Raiden and Big Boss SFF each other. Master Chief > Kirby is easily the result.


Later in the round of 16; Sephiroth, Master Chief, Dante, Sonic

Master Chief looks weaker than expected and with Master Chief and Dante SFFing each other,
Sephiroth > Sonic will be the result.

Book it.


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Contest Point Total: 77 Rank: 98%tile, Tied for 435
This Pick: Master Chief > Raiden
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