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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:43:45 PM | message detail
Also guys, with Kain almost matching Raiden update for update, I don't think he's gonna be falling below 20%... he might be for real.
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E_Gadd | Posted 10/12/2008 9:43:49 PM | message detail
Only a 12 vote gain for Raiden that time! That's two updates in a row where Kain's been really close!
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FFDragon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:44:08 PM | message detail
Today is my birthday, and thus a holiday.

Or Columbus Day. Your choice.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:44:13 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#050)

MyWorldIsCrono (#047)

BlAcK TuRtLe (#044)
It's a shame tomorrow's a holiday. No absolute ASV domination for Chief =(



It is?



Oh right, you Americanos have Thanksgiving 2 weeks before Christmas.

lol america



Oh, a Canadian holiday will have little effect on MCs ASV.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/12/2008 9:45:14 PM | message detail
BlAcK TuRtLe (#050)


MyWorldIsCrono (#047)


BlAcK TuRtLe (#044)
It's a shame tomorrow's a holiday. No absolute ASV domination for Chief =(



It is?



Oh right, you Americanos have Thanksgiving 2 weeks before Christmas.

lol america



Oh, a Canadian holiday will have little effect on MCs ASV.



Dude, it's Columbus Day here. No school.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:45:42 PM | message detail
lol Raiden nearly cut MC, only a 5 vote gain
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:46:15 PM | message detail
Ah I didn't realize kids got off for Columbus Day now... I never did in school.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/12/2008 9:46:21 PM | message detail
yessssssss

Kain broke 26
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/12/2008 9:46:34 PM | message detail
So Raiden goes from getting stalled by Kain to almost cutting Chief.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 9:46:59 PM | message detail
So we have 3 scenarios here.

1) Chief is as strong as ever, and Raiden beats Kirby/Luigi/Zero/Hayabusa comfortably. Kain is also a strong midcarder probably at Fox's level
2) Chief is now as weak as he was in 2006, meaning Raiden is doing about as expected, and Kain is at Kefka's level
3) Chief is between his 2006 and 2007 values and Raiden boosted a fair bit from MGS4. Kain is probably at Alucard's level.

My guess is 3, which is pretty much what I called before the match (well, except for Kain, he's just kicking ass and taking names.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/12/2008 9:47:08 PM | message detail
Ah I didn't realize kids got off for Columbus Day now... I never did in school.

Really? O_o. You're not that much older than me, I mean... we were both in school at the same time at some point, and I think I've always gotten Columbus Day off...

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E_Gadd | Posted 10/12/2008 9:47:30 PM | message detail
Raiden stalling Chief!

Looks like Big Boss stole all of Chief's GAMEFUEL
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/12/2008 9:47:55 PM | message detail
Ah I didn't realize kids got off for Columbus Day now... I never did in school.

Dood...
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 9:48:16 PM | message detail
#1 oh gawd please #1 time to die Big Boss.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:48:32 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 (#061)
Ah I didn't realize kids got off for Columbus Day now... I never did in school.

Really? O_o. You're not that much older than me, I mean... we were both in school at the same time at some point, and I think I've always gotten Columbus Day off...



I'm 6 years older I think? But yeah, I don't remember ever getting off for it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 9:48:58 PM | message detail
I think we had this discussion last year and some states take Columbus Day off and others don't. I forget what match it was, but some people were shocked at the voting trends because they didn't have a holiday.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/12/2008 9:49:42 PM | message detail
Yeah it depends on your state and school system in your area if you get off or not for it.
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E_Gadd | Posted 10/12/2008 9:50:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, I remember that Columbus day discussion last year too. I don't remember what match it was though.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/12/2008 9:50:46 PM | message detail
I'm 6 years older I think? But yeah, I don't remember ever getting off for it.


Yeah, so uh... maybe it's a regional thing?

This month is great for me... three weeks in a row with a day off and the week after next we have two half days.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:51:24 PM | message detail
Yeah sounds like its a state thing. In Maryland, I don't think I ever got off for it.
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smitelf | Posted 10/12/2008 9:53:16 PM | message detail
Today is Thanksgiving in Canada <_<
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:53:17 PM | message detail
BT, I think your 3rd option sounds the best. He SHOULD be over 2006 level due to Halo 3 and Xbox acceptence, but it just seems like he had all the luck in last years contest to be the monster he was.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:54:17 PM | message detail

smitelf (#071)
Today is Thanksgiving in Canada <_<



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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/12/2008 9:54:28 PM | message detail
Fourth Scenario:

Master Chief has boosted thanks to Halo 3 DLC and the announcement of that Halo 3 Recon game, so Raiden is on like Squall level and Master Chief is somewhere in the neighborhood of Samus
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 9:55:30 PM | message detail
Now we're cookin.
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Calintares | Posted 10/12/2008 9:57:08 PM | message detail
Let me see if got this right: every MGS character that we have seen have exceeded expectations, Liquid, Big Boss and Raiden. But not Solid Snake, at least not to the degree that his peers have. Does that make sense? I don't get it
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 9:57:23 PM | message detail
How popular are Layton's games? Someone give me an estimate of his ceiling on BL, I need to prepare a way to spin this.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 9:57:56 PM | message detail
While I'm still having some fun wrapping my head around this result, this does not mitigate the 360's rise on this site. Remember that Chief is a character who has two-thirds of his presence on the ORIGINAL Xbox, with his 360 outing probably being the most disappointing of all.

Characters like Altair will impress, but the HK-47's of the world aren't gaining any ground.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:57:59 PM | message detail
WEll supposedly his games sold kinda good I guess, I didnt expect anything except turbofodder out of him though
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/12/2008 9:58:01 PM | message detail
snake with the brawl de-boost is the only explanation
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 9:59:19 PM | message detail
But not Solid Snake, at least not to the degree that his peers have.

It's harder to gain strength when you're that much stronger, and Snake also has to deal with his SSBB factor not meaning as much due to Nintendo struggling.
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 10:00:07 PM | message detail
I'm sure Halo 1 and 2 are pretty much mainstays on the 360. The thing has backwards compatibility, after all, and Halo is DLC if that's not enough.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/12/2008 10:01:23 PM | message detail
How popular are Layton's games? Someone give me an estimate of his ceiling on BL, I need to prepare a way to spin this

Game, singular... in America, at least. He's a really big deal in Japan, I think... three games and they're doing a movie.

I posted in the last topic that the game was the top seller on DS for three weeks, but I don't know what the competition was... VGchartz is claiming 280,000 total sold in America.

He seems to me like he should be a Phoenix Lite, since his game should appeal to the same people... I dunno... 15% on BL?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 10:01:52 PM | message detail
Let me see if got this right: every MGS character that we have seen have exceeded expectations, Liquid, Big Boss and Raiden. But not Solid Snake, at least not to the degree that his peers have. Does that make sense? I don't get it

The majority of what put Snake from being the ass of the Noble Nine to being the closest guy to Samus is his Brawl announcement and hype. If you take that away, and he's still at Mega Man's level, that's pretty damn good for an MGS4 boost.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 10:02:40 PM | message detail
In fact, Snake looking roughly around where he was last year despite everything Nintendo looking like it's lost a step is a pretty big testament to how much he's actually benefiting from MGS4. There's a BIG difference between pre-Brawl and post-Brawl Snake.
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 10:05:26 PM | message detail
15% is his ceiling, huh?

Little Mac (2007c) VS Master Chief (2007c)

Little Mac has a strength of 15.16.
Master Chief has a strength of 37.79.

Master Chief wins with 79.94% of the vote!
A win of 95,297 with 159,137 total votes cast.

I'm likin this. Master Chief constant confirmed! Raiden and Kain monsters confirmed.
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Calintares | Posted 10/12/2008 10:06:05 PM | message detail
Does that mean that the Brawl boost definitely is dead? if so, what does that mean for Sonic? Brawl was supposed to be the game that would save him from falling further into obscurity
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 10:08:16 PM | message detail
Does that mean that the Brawl boost definitely is dead? if so, what does that mean for Sonic? Brawl was supposed to be the game that would save him from falling further into obscurity

It *would* spell his doom against Chief except for the "augh Halo 3 was terrible" de-boost

Won't stop Auron from taking him to town, though. Between Sonic characters sucking in this format and Brawl not meaning as much, I'm not exactly sure what Sonic has to cling to in that match.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2008 10:08:47 PM | message detail
Other than for my Oracle, I just adore this match.

Kain is doing spectactular.

And we've got the good ol' lovable choking/flopping Chief back, at least somewhat :) Yeah he'll skyrocket in the day, but not like gaining 10% or anything (though he will get some 50% updates probably). The choker Chief is definitely the one I prefer, rather than the beast Chief we got last year.

I was expecting Chief>Sonic, but would be happy to see that be wrong. Course, there's still the SonicFAIL factor to consider, so we could see a rather lowly battle between those two. <shrugs>
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 10:09:36 PM | message detail
Master Chief (2007c) VS Raiden (2007c)

Master Chief has a strength of 37.79.
Raiden has a strength of 18.96.

Master Chief wins with 74.91% of the vote!
A win of 76,565 with 153,659 total votes cast.

Just throwing that out there.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2008 10:09:37 PM | message detail
Won't stop Auron from taking him to town, though. Between Sonic characters sucking in this format and Brawl not meaning as much, I'm not exactly sure what Sonic has to cling to in that match.

I think Sonic goes into that match as a heavy favorite if Magus goes with him.

Auron/Magus/Sub-Zero

That's a very favorable split for Sonic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 10:10:33 PM | message detail
The thing is with Chief though, even if he is alot weaker, he's still almost guaranteed to still make it to round 4.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2008 10:10:35 PM | message detail
Of course, if Sandbag makes it, Auron goes all masamune.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2008 10:10:55 PM | message detail
Won't stop Auron from taking him to town, though. Between Sonic characters sucking in this format and Brawl not meaning as much, I'm not exactly sure what Sonic has to cling to in that match.

He has Sephiroth SFF to cling to, sadly :(
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 10:11:11 PM | message detail
I'd say Raiden was underrated in those stats to begin with, and of course he has a ton to gain.

But no I'm not seriously trying to spin this into making MC not having lost a step... though the potential is still there... can't wait for next round!
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 10:12:04 PM | message detail
Yeah, it looks like Sonic dodges a bullet this year because Auron will have Magus and then Sephiroth to deal with.
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creativename | Posted 10/12/2008 10:13:02 PM | message detail
Oh, he meant the previous round.

Yeah, seeing Auron>Sonic would rule.

And I'm not sure if Magus would even have much effect on Auron there. I'm not a big believer in old-school Chrono Trigger/new-school Final Fantasy SFF.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 10:13:11 PM | message detail
The thing is with Chief though, even if he is alot weaker, he's still almost guaranteed to still make it to round 4.

Unless Kirby ends up beating him. I still say my Dante > Chief division finals is looking pretty damn good.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 10:14:41 PM | message detail
And I'm not sure if Magus would even have much effect on Auron there. I'm not a big believer in old-school Chrono Trigger/new-school Final Fantasy SFF.

I've kinda flip-flopped on this a bit. If Crono/Zidane wasn't SFF, that means Shadow and Link must have had a LOT of overlap, or Link is now at around Mario's level.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 10:14:47 PM | message detail
I don't even think Magus can save Sonic - remember how close Sub-Zero got to the hedgehog before the Brawl announcement. Yes, Sonic will stand out. But you've got to have more than that after a certain point.
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