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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 594

consolefreak | Posted 10/12/2008 12:24:53 PM | message detail
Halo 2 had a similar distinction before-hand and GTA4 has had a similar distinction since then, but none of them were as passionately looked forward to on GameFAQs than SMS. It was the first true Mario game to come in six years, the sequel to the revolutionary Super Mario 64, a blockbuster that the Gamecube desperately needed another of, and the first of three huge Nintendo series getting controversial innovations. The Nintendo-bias here and the lack of Microsoft/Rockstar-fans in comparison made SMS more anticipated here.

Probably, but the fact that Halo 3's hype was so huge outside of gameFAQs did lead to an enormous influx of Halo fans on gameFAQs.
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80/96. Today : Kirby > Boss. Tomorrow : Chief > Raiden
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 12:25:02 PM | message detail
Except you shouldn't be looking at MC/Kirby... you should be looking at Raiden/Kirby.

I think Raiden is the guy to look at tomorrow. If he can do well, he's going to hurt Big Boss enough for Kirby to slip through.

MC vs Big Boss is not a factor.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 12:25:08 PM | message detail
Raiden's group is stronger... Lucas is bar far the biggest fodder in either group and Kain is a lot stronger than Jinjo I'm sure.

I especially like how most of you thought Kirby was stronger than Big Boss before this match started, and yet you're still convinced he's stronger than Raiden too. Funny how that works.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:25:14 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#095)
Raiden got 17% against Crono Zero and HK-47 BEFORE MGS4. No way he doesn't come close to 30 against Chief and 2 turbo fodders.



He also nearly lost to Sam Fisher

SAM ****ING FISHER.
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GameZACKS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:26:05 PM | message detail
I think Raiden is the guy to look at tomorrow. If he can do well, he's going to hurt Big Boss enough for Kirby to slip through.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about anymore... I suggest you go back and figure out what my post was in response to.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:26:14 PM | message detail

vcharon (#103)
Raiden's group is stronger... Lucas is bar far the biggest fodder in either group and Kain is a lot stronger than Jinjo I'm sure.

I especially like how most of you thought Kirby was stronger than Big Boss before this match started, and yet you're still convinced he's stronger than Raiden too. Funny how that works.



Raiden is no big boss. He doesn't get the benefit of looking like Snake.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:26:37 PM | message detail
He should still have no trouble breaking 30% with a weaker MC, 2 turbo fodder characters and an MGS4 boost to look forward to. From what I can tell, MGS4 should do for Raiden what KH2 did for Sora.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:27:34 PM | message detail
I'd be SHOCKED if he gets 30%. Mid 20s is best he can get. A game he's not even main character of won't boost him enough to get 30%
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Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 12:27:59 PM | message detail
The match I'm looking at is Raiden vs Big Boss. Guess that caused me to misread things. Whoops.
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Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude.
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 12:29:25 PM | message detail
Liquid is also not Snake, but he still managed to look quite impressive against Luigi, who is clearly much stronger than Kirby is. If Raiden's boost is enough to make him equal to Liquid, then yes he's no Big Boss, but he's still possibly a contender against Kirby.

This is all speculation. The majority of you were wrong about today's match; I am in the group that was not.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:30:21 PM | message detail

vcharon (#110)
Liquid is also not Snake, but he still managed to look quite impressive against Luigi, who is clearly much stronger than Kirby is. If Raiden's boost is enough to make him equal to Liquid, then yes he's no Big Boss, but he's still possibly a contender against Kirby.

This is all speculation. The majority of you were wrong about today's match; I am in the group that was not.



Did Liquid really impress that much over last year? He beat Alucard, whos a perennial midcarder, and I'd expect Alucard to put up similiar numbers to Luigi this year.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:31:07 PM | message detail
Contender against Kirby?

What?

Raiden and Big Boss are going to be splitting, along with Big Boss not getting Naked Snake next round. Kirby advancing seems like a no-brainer to me unless Raiden completely jobs tomorrow.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:31:48 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:33:46 PM | message detail
http://dmeik85.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/mgs3_0201.jpg

Say Big Boss gets a face pic zoomed in from this picture for round 2

Who advances?
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 12:34:07 PM | message detail
I was obviously talking about 1v1 or Raiden being in BB's place this match.

But yeah, go on with your bad self, xenophobia is an awesome thing.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/12/2008 12:35:25 PM | message detail

He also nearly lost to Sam Fisher

SAM ****ING FISHER.


He almost lost because he got a MGS4 picture that at the time was completely unrecognizable and looked like a robotic dinosaur coffee maker. He still looks like one, but at least people will now recognize that it's Raiden this time.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:36:21 PM | message detail
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n152/Gamefun101/untitled2-1.jpg

Or If this is Big Boss' face picture. I wouldn't completly deny the fact he may look like Snake next round, too. If so, GG kirby
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transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:37:54 PM | message detail
you guys are so hostile lately. it's just contest stats, man.

Raiden should boost as much as anyone from MGS4, so it'll be interesting to see the percentages tomorrow. Raiden is the absolute barometer by which MGS4 should be judged.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 12:39:13 PM | message detail
Raiden is the absolute barometer by which MGS4 should be judged.

Not Ocelot? Raiden also had the (admittedly potential) problem of unrecognizability.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 12:39:52 PM | message detail
anyway, Raiden's threepack vs. Kirby's threepack gogogo I want to see what people think before they get a chance to spin it in 9 hours

I'll go with MC > BB, Kain > Jinjo, and SFF-free Lucas > Layton > SFF'd Lucas...so, yeah, Raiden's four-way looks like a tougher one to me.


He had Halo 2 in 2005. It makes sense that he would do better. But then he really dropped off in 2006.

Halo 2 came in 2004 -- it had eight-ten months between its release and MC's next match.


Riku got 45% on Yoshi, and beat Ryu Hayabusa comfortably last year. That's about where I'd stick Pikachu on the strength list.

Come again? No no. Hayabusa beat Riku and Roxas combined in the first round, then lost to Riku in the second round by .52%...as in just over half of a percent.
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GameZACKS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:40:03 PM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:40:13 PM | message detail

Karma Hunter (#119)
Raiden is the absolute barometer by which MGS4 should be judged.

Not Ocelot? Raiden also had the (admittedly potential) problem of unrecognizability.



Raiden is more important, cuz Ocelot was a well liked and popular character pre MGS4. Raiden was generally unliked.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:41:04 PM | message detail
Come again? No no. Hayabusa beat Riku and Roxas combined in the first round, then lost to Riku in the second round by .52%...as in just over half of a percent.

And its pretty obvious that Ryu was SFF'd by Nightmare and Snake in that match, too.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2008 12:41:08 PM | message detail
Yeah, Ocelot's the one I'd watch for. Raiden was cool in MGS4 and all, but Ocelot was basically the co-star of the game.

And I'm stayin' out of these arguments. They're making my head hurt. I'll just say MGS4FAQs, post the chart and the stats in the next post, and be done with it!
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ZFS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:41:58 PM | message detail
Amazing show from Big Boss here. He wrecked this match and it doesn't look like he's dropped off a whole lot over the course of the morning and day. For as much as the pic helps him here, I have to between that between this and Liquid, there's a definite Metal Gear boost, as opposed to some wild drop from Luigi and Kirby. This same pic last year was worth 25% against Mario/Magus/Phoenix Wright -- it's worth nearly double that against Kirby/Jinjo/Lucas this year. The only thing that makes me scratch my head is Snake.

Gotta see Raiden tomorrow. I had high expectations for him before seeing Boss today, so we'll see how close he can get to the Chief.

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kept you waiting, huh
transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:42:02 PM | message detail
I thought about Ocelot, but he's also a question mark because lol which one is which. Raiden is the guy who's gone from being a dweeb to being a cyborg. if Raiden doesn't do well, it'll show that the picture never mattered.
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GameZACKS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:42:16 PM | message detail
I'm still pissed I haven't been able to play MGS4 yet... I feel so out of the loop not knowing anything that happened in it. Darn you L-block....

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:42:33 PM | message detail
Then Raiden is a terrible gauge for MGS4 boost. Ocelot is the best gauge because we have a comfortable idea of where's he's been since his first appearance.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2008 12:42:54 PM | message detail
And yeah, Riku/Leon in round 1 isn't obvious. Leon got 45% on Bowser in 2006, Riku got 45% on Yoshi the same year. I doubt they're that far apart. If anyone's thinking Ramza's going to hinder Riku in round 2 as much as Dante's going to hinder Leon, I don't know what to tell you.
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ZFS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:43:25 PM | message detail
along with Big Boss not getting Naked Snake next round.

Where are people getting this idea?

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kept you waiting, huh
transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:43:38 PM | message detail

I'll go with MC > BB, Kain > Jinjo, and SFF-free Lucas > Layton > SFF'd Lucas...so, yeah, Raiden's four-way looks like a tougher one to me.

I meant excluding MC and Big Boss, sorry. Raiden/Kain/Layton vs. Kirby/Jinjo/Lucas.

more or less, I want to see if people think Big Boss is outdoing what Master Chief will do tomorrow.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:43:49 PM | message detail
Like I said, Raiden in MGS4 compared to MGS2 seems like Sora in KH2 compared to KH1, and we all saw what Sora did with KH2.
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/12/2008 12:43:50 PM | message detail
The only thing that makes me scratch my head is Snake.

Get on submitting Old Man Winter Snake to counter the de-boost Traitoraitch Emm
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:44:13 PM | message detail
If Ramza is in round 2 (Not a given), he won't be as much of a factor as Dante/Leon SFFing, but he SHOULD take a couple votes at least.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2008 12:44:32 PM | message detail
Obviously the 2008 Random FFIX Boost(tm) explains Snake's match.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:44:35 PM | message detail

ZFS (#130)
along with Big Boss not getting Naked Snake next round.

Where are people getting this idea?



Yeah if its up to you, I'm sure you'll do anything in your power to get Naked Snake in round 2 >_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2008 12:45:29 PM | message detail
*salutes Big Boss*

I'm not even entirely sure Raiden being there next round will stop Big Boss. It'll be interesting to see. Though I was talking to someone last night (maybe yoblazer?), and he was saying Big Boss would benefit here from being the guy who the "No thanks, Nintendo" guys will vote for here. In the next round, the scenario is flipflopped for Kirby. Kirby and MC/Big Boss/Raiden. Who's going to suck up the "No thanks, mature games!" vote!

Seriously though, Kirby's going to be a unique character in that match.

And I'd say Liquid's got a great shot, not only at getting past Luigi and Bowser in round 2, but getting past X in round 3 at this point.
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transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:45:34 PM | message detail
speaking of Ocelot though, I hope we see a Liquid ocelot pic for that match. people will be scared about Kratos.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:46:49 PM | message detail
I hope Ocelot gets his young Ocelot pic. We've never seen that one iirc.
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transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:47:49 PM | message detail
sure we have.
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xyzzy
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:48:03 PM | message detail
Really? When?
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transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:49:11 PM | message detail
uhh maybe against Wily
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xyzzy
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:49:39 PM | message detail
Ah I don't really consider villain contest an actual contest <_<
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:49:55 PM | message detail
Didn't we get hand-gesture Ocelot last year?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2008 12:53:26 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Mewtwo | Ness | Pac-Man | Travis
PHV | 39.84% | 20.22% | 23.66% | 16.28% | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 40.45% | 18.16% | 25.42% | 15.97% | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 42.58% | 15.42% | 28.04% | 13.96% | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 42.70% | 18.16% | 25.47% | 13.67% | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 42.28% | 18.71% | 24.30% | 14.71% | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 41.86% | 20.05% | 23.32% | 15.61% | (22:00-24:00)

Mewtwo was pretty beastly all around, though the Power Hour was his worst time, which is very strange for a Nintendo character. He didn't vary too much throughout the match though. Ness had the Power Hour, and he didn't really drop off that much at night. That early morning vote was killer for him. Man, what happened there? It was Pac-Man's best time though, strangely enough. Travis actually did fairly decently during the late afternoon vote. He's obviously more of a night guy though.

Yesterday's stats:

Mewtwo – 50.00%
Pac-Man – 37.50%
Ness – 30.44%
Travis Touchdown – 26.09%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/12/2008 12:54:08 PM | message detail
We got young Ocelot against Wily, yeah. Last year was MGS1 art and MGS4 Ocelot.
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transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:54:16 PM | message detail
I'll say it again - the early morning vote is a really deep night vote on weekends.
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transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:54:38 PM | message detail
and yeah, 2007 r2 Ocelot is what he needs to beat Kratos.
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ZFS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:55:10 PM | message detail
speaking of Ocelot though, I hope we see a Liquid ocelot pic for that match. people will be scared about Kratos.

kratos is doomed

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2249/ocelotr1gx0.jpg

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2008 12:55:47 PM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#144)
Didn't we get hand-gesture Ocelot last year?



We got Old Ocelot in Round 1 and Liquid Ocelot in Round 2

ZFS (#125)
This same pic last year was worth 25% against Mario/Magus/Phoenix Wright -- it's worth nearly double that against Kirby/Jinjo/Lucas this year.

Gotta see Raiden tomorrow. I had high expectations for him before seeing Boss today, so we'll see how close he can get to the Chief.



Not to discredit a MGS4 boost, which I think exists, but I think today's picture is doing more for him than his face-shot last year in R2.
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