GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 594
| Yesmar | Posted 10/12/2008 11:47:54 AM | message detail |
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I maintain your idea of Sub-Zero beating MC because of an
mid-contest release is silly since it was such a minor game...I mean,
really, what MK game was it again? I've honestly forgotten. Compare
THAT to SMS, KH, or Halo 3. In all fairness, didn't the MK game come out *on the day of the match?* That would probably do something in a match that close regardless of how popular it is now. --- "Oh! Those no-good dirty rotten low-down yellow-bellied thievin' slime-sucking salamanders!!""--Diddy Kong |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 11:48:06 AM | message detail |
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Soul, don't get so defensive. My words were mixed up... the point is,
people expected Scorpion to beat Gordon down much worse than he did.
I'm arguing that Gordon Freeman didn't drop here, remember? Why would I
be badmouthing him. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 11:49:14 AM | message detail |
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Subby was probably close to Chief anyways. Armageddon coming out was just the straw that broke the camel's back. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 11:49:36 AM | message detail |
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Mega Man wound up third in the stats. So why did Mega Man drop? What, Mega Man Battle Network Mark 2 Omega Epsilon wore off? --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| XxSoulxX | Posted 10/12/2008 11:49:38 AM | message detail |
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Soul, don't get so defensive. I've been in a defensive mood since the start of this match and I blame Kirby for it. Sorry. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 11:49:51 AM | message detail |
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Haha, I kinda wanna agree there Soul...but then you have GlaDOS quotes against Falco quotes... "Can't let you do that GlaDOS!" --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 11:50:02 AM | message detail |
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BlAcK TuRtLe (#053) Marcus > Subby --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2008 11:50:38 AM | message detail |
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Now that I've seen what BB can do with this pic, I'd definitely take
him over a lot of upper characters. The Top 15 or so characters would
be safe, but anyone below that is fair game. I'm curious though, how do you think the match would have played out percentage-wise if BB had gotten either the old man pic or at least one where he doesn't look exactly like Snake? Factor in a MGS4 boost too, because I'm not denying he has boosted. How close does BB get to Kirby without today's pic, or does he still beat him? --- Moltar Status: augh Big Boss/Jinjo/Kirby/Lucas - Bracket: Kirby > Big Boss - Vote: Kirby (75/96) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 11:51:04 AM | message detail |
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He didn't drop off immediately. It was a slow decline that started with
KHF and ended with Snake in Brawl. Now with Mega Man 9 I'd expect him
to rough Sonic and Crono up and maybe even give Snake a match. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 11:51:37 AM | message detail |
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No chance in hell old man Big Boss beats Kirby. I'd probably swap their percentages, at least. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 11:51:42 AM | message detail |
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Master Moltar (#058) If he had Old Man pic, Kirby would win. --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 11:52:32 AM | message detail |
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I was actually thinking about taking Marcus > Sub-Zero. Gears 2
comes out in less than a month, and Marcus impressed last year while
Subby sucked it up. Then Scorpion failing against Gordon like that
makes me wish I had gone with my gut. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/12/2008 11:52:46 AM | message detail |
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Am I the only one who thought that what happened in the West Division
in 2002 was anti-votes against Sephiroth? From what I recall, Sephiroth
was THE target of FFVII/Square hatred in much the same way that Mario
was the target of Nintendo hatred. --- "Oh! Those no-good dirty rotten low-down yellow-bellied thievin' slime-sucking salamanders!!""--Diddy Kong |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 11:53:00 AM | message detail |
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I wanna see today's match...in the sprite round. Screw old, I want retro-tastic justice. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2008 11:54:34 AM | message detail |
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Lopen (#060) So Kirby/BB goes 56/44? That would be a great boost for BB if so. --- Moltar Status: augh Big Boss/Jinjo/Kirby/Lucas - Bracket: Kirby > Big Boss - Vote: Kirby (75/96) |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 11:54:40 AM | message detail |
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Look at Mega Man's other matches though. He dominated harder than
anyone else in the contest, and he also finished cleanly ahead of Samus
against Sephiroth. Not only that, but Sephiroth didn't look that bad
against Link all things considered. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 11:55:21 AM | message detail |
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You know, someone arguing for MM9 doing anything at this point, much less giving him the juice to match up with Snake
is not someone I think is worth debating releases and their
implications on the stats anymore. Have fun with your Dante > Chief
upset. I'd say he's better suited to be looking out for Kirby given
it's the sprite round. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/12/2008 11:55:50 AM | message detail |
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Although Big Boss's ass kicking today is all sorts of awesome, I can't
say I really support it. Half of his votes are probably from people who
don't realize who they're voting for. I don't like characters like Big
Boss being in the contest. I'd at least consistently give him an old
Boss pic. Yet Mario beat Cloud due to Super Mario Sunshine and got absolutely murdered the following year. By your logic, Mario should have beat Cloud even harder in 2003 because SMS had time to "digest" This. I think people are expecting a little bit too much from the Chief, I don't see him being as strong as last year. Halo 3's hype was astronomical last year, it brought thousands to the site. Kirby/Lucas/Jinjo or Raiden/Kain/Layton? Raiden/Kain/Layton IMO. Raiden should be pretty strong this year, and Kirby/Lucas/Jinjo is all Nintendo, plus Kain > Layton > Jinjo > Lucas. While Chief is clearly stronger than he was in 2006, there's NO WAY he is as strong as he was last year. If he beats Dante, I will be shocked. I won't, because of Leon/Riku having more in common with Dante. Though I agree Dante would beat the Chief in a fair setting, 4-ways or not. and I would dare say SMS was more hyped here in 2k2 than Halo 3 last year Was it now. I don't think any marketing campaign ever compares to Halo's. --- 80/96. Today : Kirby > Boss. Tomorrow : Chief > Raiden Those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak - Soviet adage |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 11:56:40 AM | message detail |
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Note the at least, Moltar. Personally I'd have Kirby breaking 50% and
Big Boss at around 30%, with Jinjo and Lucas getting the rest. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 11:57:45 AM | message detail |
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Though I agree Dante would beat the Chief in a fair setting, 4-ways or not. http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Chief_vs_Dante_vs_Luigi_vs_Pikachu_2007 This fair enough for you? --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/12/2008 11:58:30 AM | message detail |
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2002 is just strange. And I think it's important to note, the latter
rounds of that contest got way more votes than the earlier rounds.
Cloud, in losing to Mario, got more votes than any previous winner. It sort of reminds of L-Block....the contest picked up a lot of attention across the internet that year, I think. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 70/88 --- T-258 (129 way) Bracket: Cloud > Midna --- Vote: Cloud |
| LordOfDabu | Posted 10/12/2008 12:02:34 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, normalizing between years, Mario vs Cloud 2k2 was the 4th most
popular match to ever occur in these contests. An external link
definitely had a huge impact on that match. --- SlayerS_`BoxeR`: that is many tank? SlayerS_`BoxeR`: yes? |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 12:05:12 PM | message detail |
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Was it now. I don't think any marketing campaign ever compares to Halo's. Halo 2 had a similar distinction before-hand and GTA4 has had a similar distinction since then, but none of them were as passionately looked forward to on GameFAQs than SMS. It was the first true Mario game to come in six years, the sequel to the revolutionary Super Mario 64, a blockbuster that the Gamecube desperately needed another of, and the first of three huge Nintendo series getting controversial innovations. The Nintendo-bias here and the lack of Microsoft/Rockstar-fans in comparison made SMS more anticipated here. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:05:34 PM | message detail |
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Looking at past 1v1 Chief matches... he's a weird guy. Look at this Aeris match: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Aeris_vs_Master_Chief_2003 Then he goes and does about the same % on CRONO http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Crono_vs_Master_Chief_2005 --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/12/2008 12:10:35 PM | message detail |
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It's awesome how a picture can help a character so much. I wonder how many Brawl players think this is Solid Snake. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/12/2008 12:11:08 PM | message detail |
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And Dante can't beat Chief if Leon is there. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
| transience | Posted 10/12/2008 12:11:41 PM | message detail |
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Naked Snake last year still got doubled up by Mario. this is clearly a different Big Boss. MGS4 is crazy. and you can't blame it on Kirby, it just doesn't work that way. it isn't like Kirby is suddenly fodder. anyway, Raiden's threepack vs. Kirby's threepack gogogo I want to see what people think before they get a chance to spin it in 9 hours --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:12:17 PM | message detail |
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He had Halo 2 in 2005. It makes sense that he would do better. But then he really dropped off in 2006. Hmmmmm --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/12/2008 12:12:32 PM | message detail |
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Yeah Raiden isn't doing much. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2008 12:12:41 PM | message detail |
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Good god, I'm not touching any of these arguments with a 20-foot poll. Just...good god guys. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:13:35 PM | message detail |
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And Dante can't beat Chief if Leon is there. Except Leon WON'T be there. Once again, was ANYBODY watching Pikachu last year? He went from losing to Leon by 10% to beating him outright once Dante was thrown into the mix. Why would Riku, someone I'd peg to be at the same level as Pikachu, not be able to do the same thing? --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:14:55 PM | message detail |
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BlAcK TuRtLe (#078) "Sub-Zero (2006c) has a strength of 28.01 against Base Link." Its not like Subzero was a chump in 2006. --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| The Real Truth | Posted 10/12/2008 12:15:01 PM | message detail |
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Leon isn't losing to Riku. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:17:34 PM | message detail |
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Master Chief (2006c) VS Zero (2006c) Master Chief has a strength of 27.47. Zero has a strength of 28.52. Zero wins with 51.84% of the vote! A win of 4,757 with 129,207 total votes cast. Using Master Chiefs 1v1 strength in 2006, he'd nearly beat Zero 1v1, and would most likely own him now. 2006 Chief is not as weak as people think he is. --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 12:17:36 PM | message detail |
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BT pretty much summed up the Dante/Riku/Leon situation perfectly. What were people thinking when they took Leon there? --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:19:08 PM | message detail |
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Lopen (#085) The thing is, Riku isn't very strong. He's not Pikachu, I don't think he's strong enough to capitalize on it. --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:19:15 PM | message detail |
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anyway, Raiden's threepack vs. Kirby's threepack gogogo I want to
see what people think before they get a chance to spin it in 9 hours Kirby's pack is stronger... I don't really think you can even try to make the case otherwise. You have two meaningless fodder characters in each match. MC's are probably slightly stronger and have more variety in fanbase, but it shouldn't be all that significant. Then you have Kirby and Raiden. Kirby would destroy Raiden... and that's pretty much all you need to know. Unless of course Raiden has massively boosted this year, which we won't really be able to tell. --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:20:35 PM | message detail |
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Riku got 45% on Yoshi, and beat Ryu Hayabusa comfortably last year. That's about where I'd stick Pikachu on the strength list. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2008 12:20:39 PM | message detail |
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Riku isn't strong? Since when has Riku not been strong? Him vs. Leon would be a debatable 1 on 1 match. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| consolefreak | Posted 10/12/2008 12:21:15 PM | message detail |
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http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Chief_vs_Dante_vs_Luigi_vs_Pikachu_2007 This fair enough for you? This year, Isaac. That is after DMC4 and the insane Halo 3 hype. --- 80/96. Today : Kirby > Boss. Tomorrow : Chief > Raiden Those who speak do not know, those who know do not speak - Soviet adage |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 12:21:41 PM | message detail |
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Kirby's pack is stronger... I don't really think you can even try to make the case otherwise Absolutely not. MC >> Kirby Kain > Jinjo (not hard) Layton > Lucas (not hard) If Raiden gets in the low 30s I think he could be a HUGE threat to Big Boss next round. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:21:56 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#089) Riku (2007c) VS Leon Kennedy (2007c) Riku has a strength of 24.27. Leon Kennedy has a strength of 27.70. Leon Kennedy wins with 56.19% of the vote! A win of 16,849 with 136,069 total votes cast. And thats with Leon being SFF'd round 3. --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/12/2008 12:22:59 PM | message detail |
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Absolutely not. MC >> Kirby Kain > Jinjo (not hard) Layton > Lucas (not hard) If Raiden gets in the low 30s I think he could be a HUGE threat to Big Boss next round. Except you shouldn't be looking at MC/Kirby... you should be looking at Raiden/Kirby. --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:22:59 PM | message detail |
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| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 12:23:01 PM | message detail |
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Raiden got 17% against Crono Zero and HK-47 BEFORE MGS4. No way he doesn't come close to 30 against Chief and 2 turbo fodders. --- I want adventure in the great wide somewhere... I want it more than I can tell! - Belle http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3949/beautyandthebeast21024uh9.jpg |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/12/2008 12:23:06 PM | message detail |
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Solid Snake = Big Boss Damn, haven't you guys played the game! --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 76/100 Today's Pick: Master Chief > Kain Highwind |
| Lopen | Posted 10/12/2008 12:23:13 PM | message detail |
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Note I mean a huge threat to weakening Big Boss, not to necessarily defeat Big Boss. (though it could happen !!) --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| Dilated Chemist | Posted 10/12/2008 12:23:37 PM | message detail |
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Well, actually to be fair... Solid Snake >= Big Boss --- [Multiple Scorgasms] Score: 76/100 Today's Pick: Master Chief > Kain Highwind |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2008 12:23:37 PM | message detail |
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Anyone smarter want to try and argue for Dante>Leon? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 12:24:19 PM | message detail |
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Master Chief - 52% Raiden - 26% Kain - 16% Layton - 6% Anyone who disagrees that it won't be something similiar to this is wrong. --- Master Chief > Sonic ...... Believe http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
