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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 593

Calintares | Posted 10/12/2008 6:11:48 AM | message detail
Last match, the block received 44 325 votes, last year, the block received about that number inn all it's matches except the last two. the important questions are: 1. are those 44 000 likely to abandon the Block for anyone else? and 2. Will it be as easy to create a huge band-waggon for L-Block this year as last year, it needs it if it is to top the elites of the contest.
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 6:35:40 AM | message detail
Kirby is starting to eat up some percentage now. Doesn't look like Boss will be hitting 50%.

Jinjo is nearing 10%.
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MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2008 6:45:47 AM | message detail

Lady Ashe (#383)
If you honestly thing Magus has a chance of losing to Sandbag you might want to check yourself in to an asylum.



check yourself first since this doesnt exactly have anything to do with sandbag.
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Dedede/Pit/Ryu/Zero - Bracket: Zero > RyuH - Vote: Zero (53/64)
MarioSuperstar | Posted 10/12/2008 6:47:02 AM | message detail
though if Magus wins anyway i wouldnt put it on Sandbag being weak... i mean after looking at Big Boss here.
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Dedede/Pit/Ryu/Zero - Bracket: Zero > RyuH - Vote: Zero (53/64)
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/12/2008 7:26:18 AM | message detail
Gah, that's quite the % bleed Big Boss is doing.

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/12/2008 7:29:27 AM | message detail
Let's go Jinjo get below 10%.

In the end it looks like BB and Kirby percent difference will be below 10%.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 75/96 Today's Match: Kirby > Big Boss
ToadYoshi | Posted 10/12/2008 7:49:21 AM | message detail
I propose that statistically Jinjo = CATS.

Yes now we have 2 good characters in the contest.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2008 8:04:21 AM | message detail
At least Kirby is finally kicking it up with the morning/day vote. Jinjo fell to where I expected it, and Lucas continues to just be...'haha oh wow;.

BB reached 49% overnight? WOW! No point in even calling him BB for this match, this is Snake we're seeing here. A slightly weaker Snake because some people are actually not voting him because he's only Big Boss, but its Snake nonetheless.

I doubt this has a big effect on Round 2 unless BB gets Snake's face for a pic. Though I'm curious to see how an MGS4 face pic of BB would fair next round.
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Big Boss/Jinjo/Kirby/Lucas - Bracket: Kirby > Big Boss - Vote: Kirby (75/96)
Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2008 8:10:49 AM | message detail
Thanks, Moltar.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2008 8:15:51 AM | message detail
the more i remind people the better i feel about taking kirby to go far

so no prob
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Big Boss/Jinjo/Kirby/Lucas - Bracket: Kirby > Big Boss - Vote: Kirby (75/96)
ffmasterjose | Posted 10/12/2008 8:37:12 AM | message detail
There's an MGS4 picture of Big Boss? o_0
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 10/12/2008 8:50:11 AM | message detail
So...here's the question.

One-on-one, how strong would you take MGS3 image (this one, I assume is from MGS3) Big Boss to be?

Over Luigi? Over Zelda?
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 8:51:35 AM | message detail
Hard to say at this point... obviously Kirby is slicing him up during the day, but the match is long over...

I think he's over Luigi though, for sure. Zelda would be close one on one.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 8:58:37 AM | message detail
You would take Zelda over Luigi? Look how close he was to Ganondorf last year in round 2.

Man, sometimes it seems like half the people in this topic don't follow past matches at all, or conveniently ignore matches that go against their picks. That's the only explanation I can find for Leon being the favourite to come second in round 2.

As for Master Chief, am I the only one who thinks he's going to come back to earth now? He really has nothing going for him this year. Last year he had the release of his biggest game, this year I can't see him beating Dante.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/12/2008 9:02:52 AM | message detail

ffmasterjose (#411)
There's an MGS4 picture of Big Boss? o_0



MGS4 SPOILERS










































Yes, he appears in a long scene at the end of the game. He has an awesome model too.







































END SPOILERS
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Big Boss/Jinjo/Kirby/Lucas - Bracket: Kirby > Big Boss - Vote: Kirby (75/96)
vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:05:42 AM | message detail
To her credit, Zelda performed very well even while being SFFed by Mario this year. I highly doubt Luigi could have placed ahead of Knuckles in that match. But just like your Ganondorf/Luigi note... a bit unfair I think.

The new and improved top 25!

1: Link
2: Cloud
3: Sephiroth
4: Mario
5: Samus
6: Snake
7: Sonic
8: Mega Man
9: Crono
10: X
11: L-Block
12: Squall
13: Vincent
14: Tifa
15: Ganondorf
16: Auron
17: Ryu
18: Bowser
19: Dante
20: Zelda
21: Sora
22: Big Boss
23: Luigi
24: Yoshi
25: Kratos

Others that could be:

Zack
WCC
Sandbag


Sigh. Anyway, I'm pretty confident with that, sort of... in a not really at all kinda way.
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:07:15 AM | message detail
NN order was copy/pasted so don't yell at me about it plz.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 9:16:45 AM | message detail
The TRUE top 25 (1v1)

1. Link
2. Cloud
3. Sephiroth
4. Mario
5. Samus
6. Snake
7. Mega Man
8. Crono
9. Squall
10. Sonic
11. Vincent
12. Auron
13. Ganondorf
14. Tifa
15. Luigi
16. Ryu
17. Yoshi
18. Bowser
19. Dante
20. Master Chief
21. Ryu Hayabusa
22. Zero
23. Sora
24. Zelda
25. Kratos
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:18:38 AM | message detail
The TRUE top 25 (1v1)

...

20. Master Chief


Yeah, right. He'd have a better chance of being on my list, which is more based on this format.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:20:47 AM | message detail
Anyone who doesn't have Master Chief in top 20, in any format, is a fool
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:22:42 AM | message detail
Until he proves he's worth anything in that format, he doesn't deserve to be on the list. He lost to Frog and handily to Sub-Zero.

Isn't this list coming from the guy who just told ME I didn't look at past results? Well if that isn't the big fat pot calling the kettle black.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:24:45 AM | message detail
And that was back during Xbox days when Xbox was a joke and hated on Gamefaqs, obviously its way different now. This isn't the Chief that we saw back then, and if you think it is, then no wonder you still aren't giving him credit.
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:27:03 AM | message detail
But aren't you just assuming this without actually basing it actual results from this contest?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 9:32:37 AM | message detail
Pikachu got killed by Fox in 2003! Clearly he's completely useless in a contest setting!
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:34:32 AM | message detail
Good job on completely evading my observations there.

For the record, I don't discredit MC at all. If he does well here, I think he's definitely a member of the top 25 (in THIS format) despite his prior chokejobs. In solo play though, he's never proven himself to be anything but one of the most gigantic chokers in the history of the contest.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:34:49 AM | message detail

vcharon (#423)
But aren't you just assuming this without actually basing it actual results from this contest?



No. Plus, its non factor since we're staying with this format regardless, since Bacon has no reason to go from a format that works for his needs, since we have higher hits then ever, so why ever argue about 1v1 since we aren't going back to that, no matter how much a vocal minority whines. So MC is a top 10 character now.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:35:18 AM | message detail
I think he's definitely a member of the top 25 (in THIS format)

He's a top 7 in this format.
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:36:53 AM | message detail
... I didn't try to argue about 1v1 format, BT brought it up. My list is based off this format. You're probably right, MC should already be in the top 20 with this format. But top 7? Come off it fanboy. He's not done that much yet.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:36:56 AM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:37:33 AM | message detail
Actually, He's #9. Last year, only these characters finished higher in Xstats:

L Block
Link
Cloud
Seph
Snake
Mega Man
Mario
Samus
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Yesmar | Posted 10/12/2008 9:37:55 AM | message detail
I really hope that no one goes insane over a MGS4 boost if Raiden really surprises us tomorrow.

We have to keep in mind that he was fairly unrecognizable in his pictures last year, and could very well have been suffering a Zero Suit Samus Effect, but now that MGS4 has come out, people should recognize who he is.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:39:00 AM | message detail
I'm the fanboy, and you're saying a guy who handidly defeats noble niners like Sonic and Crono in this format is merely top 25?
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Lady Ashe | Posted 10/12/2008 9:40:47 AM | message detail
Thanks again, Moltar. Those spoilers are appreciated.
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GameZACKS | Posted 10/12/2008 9:42:54 AM | message detail
Not to mention it's questionable how high of a % MC can really bring in. He can still be a beast in this format, and have a hard time hitting the high 40's. The entire reason he's thought to be such a beast is the format, lack of anti-votes, etc. etc. His downfall has been him performing down to the level of his competition. It's pretty clear that it's tough as hell for MC to nab 50% in a match, not that he can't do it, but that's why he's so amazing in this format. I didn't take him to go as far as he did last year because of H3 hype, the number one reason behind that line of thinking was how greatly he'd be benefitted by the format.

MC could get in the 50's tomorrow, or he could get 41%, and either way I wouldn't be too worried about him. Obviously it'd be much more reassuring to see him in the 50's, but I don't think a poor performance tomorrow spells his downfall.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:45:32 AM | message detail

GameZACKS (#434)
Not to mention it's questionable how high of a % MC can really bring in. He can still be a beast in this format, and have a hard time hitting the high 40's. The entire reason he's thought to be such a beast is the format, lack of anti-votes, etc. etc. His downfall has been him performing down to the level of his competition. It's pretty clear that it's tough as hell for MC to nab 50% in a match, not that he can't do it, but that's why he's so amazing in this format. I didn't take him to go as far as he did last year because of H3 hype, the number one reason behind that line of thinking was how greatly he'd be benefitted by the format.

MC could get in the 50's tomorrow, or he could get 41%, and either way I wouldn't be too worried about him. Obviously it'd be much more reassuring to see him in the 50's, but I don't think a poor performance tomorrow spells his downfall.



If he gets low 40s, what do you expect the other characters to get? Tomorrows match to me is more his totally pathetic competition, then getting 50% cuz of noble nine status. I could see other top non noble 9ers getting 50% tomorrow too, like vincent and Squall
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vcharon | Posted 10/12/2008 9:46:28 AM | message detail
MC will not hit 50% tomorrow. Bank on it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 9:47:48 AM | message detail
Once again, Master Chief will not be NEARLY as strong as he was last year. Last year was a perfect storm for him that won't be repeated. He'll still get out of this division, but he will be losing to Dante.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:48:12 AM | message detail

BlAcK TuRtLe (#437)
Once again, Master Chief will not be NEARLY as strong as he was last year. Last year was a perfect storm for him that won't be repeated. He'll still get out of this division, but he will be losing to Dante.



.......

XD
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:50:15 AM | message detail
You mean the same Dante that he embaressed twice last year, is gonna BEAT the chief? Now I see why people think you're a joke, BT.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:55:58 AM | message detail
Oh and back to the people who are dumb and think Chief isn't cracking 50%

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Master_Chief_vs_Yuna_vs_Vercetti_vs_PaRappa_2007

Yuna > Raiden
Vercetti > Kain
Parappa > Layton

And he still put up 45% against them.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 9:57:47 AM | message detail
BT, I encourage you to look into my MC argument from last night:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/detail.php?board=8&topic=45920336&message=503481336


Once again, Master Chief will not be NEARLY as strong as he was last year. Last year was a perfect storm for him that won't be repeated. He'll still get out of this division, but he will be losing to Dante.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2921
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2924

He won by ~5.5% the first time and ~9% the second time. Granted, DMC4 is out and Halo 3 hype is done, but it stands to reason that MC is still in a nice position.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 9:59:03 AM | message detail
Also, last year every match, MC outdid the oracle, and people STILL don't believe in him. They'll all get burnt again, sadly. People need to realize MC is a monster now.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/12/2008 10:00:49 AM | message detail
I called Chief's path correctly last year, and I'm going to call it correctly again this year as well.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 10:01:07 AM | message detail
And also, the fact that 360 is now very popular on Gamefaqs, even moreso then last year(Ryu proves this), should offset the Halo 3 hype, and make him about equal to last year.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 10:03:02 AM | message detail
I called Chief's path correctly last year, and I'm going to call it correctly again this year as well.

Arrogance like that is why you currently have a Disney sig.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 10:04:12 AM | message detail
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/12/2008 10:04:45 AM | message detail
Master Chief is the most well known characer in mainstream gaming now, and he's going to go the way of Mario, being the face of a brand. He ain't going anywhere as long as Xbox brand stays strong.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/12/2008 10:04:49 AM | message detail
Personally, I think his sig is wonderful!
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/12/2008 10:07:05 AM | message detail
It wasn't a diss of the sig, yo! It was a diss of how he got it!
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voltch | Posted 10/12/2008 10:10:16 AM | message detail
Big Boss,when he gets an old boss pic next round and raiden to lff him he'll be going down.

But BB got a great pic when he killed off Magus,so does this mean Magus ain't as crap as we thought?
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