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Janus5000 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:17:12 PM | message detail
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Suddenly Magus looks a lot less like a jobber. <_<
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:18:02 PM | message detail
Do you really think BB = Squall? Squall would massacre him.

We have no idea how Squall would do against this Big Boss, but I think "massacre" is really pushing it.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:18:17 PM | message detail
I'm waiting to see Sandbag bring in 15% of the vote and Magus dominate him personally.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:18:47 PM | message detail
Pretty much, Squall's blowout on Yoshi is the exact same as BB's blowout on Kirby. Do you really think BB = Squall? Squall would massacre him.

It's like 56 - 44 Big Boss > Kirby right now
Squall beat Kirby 55 -45 that one time


woah

obviously it's not totally comparable, but Big Boss is looking really good here.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/11/2008 10:18:50 PM | message detail
except nearly all of lucas votes would go to kirby, and the majority of jinjo's would too. it'd still be a clear loss 1v1 probably, but not like this. and dk absolutely sucked, there's no way kirby is that weak.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:19:13 PM | message detail
This match is definently making me feel more comfortable about Sonic > Magus
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:19:25 PM | message detail

We have no idea how Squall would do against this Big Boss, but I think "massacre" is really pushing it.


He would crush Big Boss. Big Boss is proving to be a midcarder, mayber upper. But that's still leagues below Squall.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:19:42 PM | message detail
I'm waiting to see Sandbag bring in 15% of the vote and Magus dominate him personally.

You will be waiting a looooooooooooong time!

(Presumably until a future contest in which Magus and Sandbag are also paired up in the first round and Magus has received many remakes and academy awards and Smash has faded into obscurity and fewer academy awards)
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:20:42 PM | message detail
Also

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2874

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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/11/2008 10:21:04 PM | message detail
It's really judgmental to say Squall would 'blowout' Big Boss if Big Boss had this picture.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:22:03 PM | message detail
It's really judgmental to say Squall would 'blowout' Big Boss if Big Boss had this picture.

Considering how badly Snake pummeled Squall's ass the last time around, anyone who thinks Squall would 'blowout' Big Boss with this pic is kidding themselves.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/11/2008 10:22:07 PM | message detail
So... for fun, where does this put Phoenix though Big Boss and Magus?
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:22:25 PM | message detail
I will be very surprised if Sandbag gets near 20%. 15% sounds about right, maybe a bit less.

Don't know why everyone thinks he's the favorite in his match. He's nowhere near as recognizable as the Cube or L-Block, and will only cater to Brawl fans (which spells disaster if you've been following this contest at all).
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:23:03 PM | message detail
If Big Boss had this pic.. I could see Squall beating him maybe 53-47
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:23:36 PM | message detail
Don't know why everyone thinks he's the favorite in his match. He's nowhere near as recognizable as the Cube or L-Block, and will only cater to Brawl fans (which spells disaster if you've been following this contest at all).



Sandbag is way more recognizable than the Cube, you're crazy.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/11/2008 10:23:46 PM | message detail
Ooh, Big Boss with a 52.7% update!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:24:25 PM | message detail

Gaddswell (#216)
Ooh, Big Boss with a 52.7% update!



And the night vote begins.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:24:54 PM | message detail
Soul, you're stating things in a way that make Resident Troll Albion seem humble. Sandbag... not nearly as recognizable as Weighted Companion Cube? Are you serious?
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:24:59 PM | message detail
except nearly all of lucas votes would go to kirby, and the majority of jinjo's would too. it'd still be a clear loss 1v1 probably, but not like this. and dk absolutely sucked, there's no way kirby is that weak.

I don't know about this at all. Like I said, these are diehard Lucas voters - you can't just give Kirby that %. Plus this looks a hell of a lot more like Kirby SFFing Lucas rather than an LFF situation. SFF and LFF are not the same thing - you can have SFF without LFF in a 4-way, and that might be the case here.

Even if it isn't, you definitely can't give all Lucas' votes to Kirby. A comfy majority maybe, but with what Boss is winning by, it wouldn't be hugely lopsided.

As for Jinjo's votes, Kirby would probably get a better proportion of them than the 43% or so that he's getting against Boss right now, so a majority is likely. But a big majority? Doubtful.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:26:14 PM | message detail
Sandbag is way more recognizable than the Cube, you're crazy.

On the internet? Do you know how well liked Portal is? Do you want to know how many sites had some sort of Portal parody on it? Portal is a huge fad on the net, and many, many people are in on it.

Sandbag is an item in SSBB. Seriously, everyone thinks it will do well just for that reason alone. It has nothing else going for it.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:26:22 PM | message detail
Oh but yes, Kirby is easily ahead of DK.

But he's probably easily behind Yoshi too, so I dunno who he's closer to.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:26:56 PM | message detail
On the internet, Cube is more well known. On Gamefaqs? Sandbag is, I'd wager.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:27:57 PM | message detail

Sandbag is an item in SSBB.


Wrong. Sandbag is a character in SSBB. WCC is an item in Portal.

Let that sink in.

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Gaddswell | Posted 10/11/2008 10:28:28 PM | message detail
Sandbag was in Melee too...
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:28:29 PM | message detail
On the internet, Cube is more well known. On Gamefaqs? Sandbag is, I'd wager.

The internet caused L-Block to win last year's contest, not GameFAQs. The internet caused L-Block and Cube to win their first round matches this year. The internet won't give a **** about Sandbag.

So yes, good luck with that one.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:28:57 PM | message detail
Wrong. Sandbag is a character in SSBB. WCC is an item in Portal.

They're both items.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:29:44 PM | message detail
On the internet, Cube is more well known. On Gamefaqs? Sandbag is, I'd wager.


On nowhere is the Cube more well known.

everyone is crazy what the poop

The internet caused L-Block to win last year's contest, not GameFAQs. The internet caused L-Block and Cube to win their first round matches this year. The internet won't give a **** about Sandbag.

People who think it's funny to vote for inanimate objects caused those things. Those people will likely do the same for Sandbag, unless they mistake his eyes for signs of life.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:29:44 PM | message detail
On the internet, Cube is more well known. On Gamefaqs? Sandbag is, I'd wager.

This sounds crazy to me. No way in hell Cube is more well known than Sandbag on the internet. Such a high % of gamers know of Sandbag.

Cube may be a big fad among some portion of the internet, but among general internet users Sandbag is without question more known.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:30:48 PM | message detail
unless they mistake his eyes for signs of life.

Which may be our biggest mistake in hyping him.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:31:31 PM | message detail
This sounds crazy to me. No way in hell Cube is more well known than Sandbag on the internet. Such a high % of gamers know of Sandbag.

I know this isn't much, but during WCC hayday, it even became an ingame object in WoW for about a week that people could interract with.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:32:30 PM | message detail

People who think it's funny to vote for inanimate objects caused those things. Those people will likely do the same for Sandbag, unless they mistake his eyes for signs of life.


Then explain how Bidoof and Mudkips did so well?

No one is voting them based on them being objects. They're being voted because they are fads on the internet. Sandbag doesn't have any fads to his credit. All he has is being an item in Brawl and a guest appearance in Melee.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:33:23 PM | message detail
L-Block was an internet fad?

News to me.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:33:26 PM | message detail
This sounds crazy to me. No way in hell Cube is more well known than Sandbag on the internet. Such a high % of gamers know of Sandbag.

I want you to count the number of web-comics you know, and I guarantee you all of them has at least one comic about Portal.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/11/2008 10:33:52 PM | message detail
You can't say that he only had a guest appearance in Melee. Melee was his first game....
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:34:37 PM | message detail

TestIcicles (#232)
L-Block was an internet fad?

News to me.



He was, many sites had links to vote for him the final days of the contest last year.
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transience | Posted 10/11/2008 10:34:56 PM | message detail
they're being voted because they're inanimate objects. the strongest character from FF4 would be Evil Wall.

nominate evil wall woo
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:35:14 PM | message detail
Then explain how Bidoof and Mudkips did so well?

No one is voting them based on them being objects. They're being voted because they are fads on the internet. Sandbag doesn't have any fads to his credit. All he has is being an item in Brawl and a guest appearance in Melee.


L Block and WCC got their votes based on the inanimacy (since when is L Block a fad on the internet?)

Mudkip and Bidoof got combined joke / hey it's a Pokemon I like Pokemon votes. Bidoof didn't do well enough to even mention in the same post as these other guys/things, though.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:35:29 PM | message detail
It's hilarious how easy it is to make the argument of WCC > Sandbag, yet Soul is still making himself look foolish. Classic sowl.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:35:33 PM | message detail
L-Block was an internet fad?

News to me.


L-Block is a different case. It became a fad because of this contest. If the Block landed just about anywhere else in the bracket (where it didn't have to fight two of the weakest entrants ever to place), then Block would be just another low-midcarder/fodder character. But as luck had it, he won his first match and gained a lot of fans. Those were enough to make him win the second round (and some LFF from Kirby/DK), and from there it just snowballed out of control.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:35:34 PM | message detail
One of these years we should have a 128 inanimate object contest
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:35:36 PM | message detail
Suddenly Magus looks a lot less like a jobber. <_<

I am gonna be rooting hard for Magus there, and he does look less horrible now.

But still...this is a joke format, with joke characters (*and* a joke scoring system to boot!).

Sandbag is known by just about everybody, and he's an inanimate object. He'll probably be less powerful than Cube (although he could be stronger), but this format favors him too much. This format is all about the inanimate object. All he'll need is mid-20's to beat Magus, maybe even low 20's.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/11/2008 10:35:44 PM | message detail
L-Block was never a fad. The internet picked up on him because they found it funny he was advancing so far. You cannot say they wouldn't do the same with Sandbag.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:36:56 PM | message detail

MegatokyoEd (#242)
L-Block was never a fad. The internet picked up on him because they found it funny he was advancing so far. You cannot say they wouldn't do the same with Sandbag.



Problem is he won't be advancing far. He won't have enough steam by round 2 to beat out Auron and Sonic
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:37:01 PM | message detail
He was, many sites had links to vote for him the final days of the contest last year.

Then how can you say Sandbag won't get that same kind of support when he hasn't even been in a single contest? Honestly... did you not see what I was talking about there? You have the perception of a dead walrus.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:37:26 PM | message detail
He was, many sites had links to vote for him the final days of the contest last year.

So it was a fad after the fact. Sites saw an inanimate object doing well, and then rallied around it.

I want you to count the number of web-comics you know, and I guarantee you all of them has at least one comic about Portal.


At least three of the > 10 webcomics I read haven't.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:37:59 PM | message detail
L-Block was never a fad. The internet picked up on him because they found it funny he was advancing so far.

Which is exactly what I said in my post. Because he made it so far, he became a fad.

You cannot say they wouldn't do the same with Sandbag.

Sandbag doesn't have the luxury of fighting Laharl and Tanner in the first round.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:38:31 PM | message detail
what the hell is going on here someone explain this
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:38:42 PM | message detail
I want you to count the number of web-comics you know, and I guarantee you all of them has at least one comic about Portal.

...so? I mean...what? This shows nothing. I repeat, WITHOUT QUESTION is Sandbag more well known among general internet users.

People who know of Cube may care a lot about him than people who know of Sandbag do. And Cube is likely stronger on this site. But come on people, let's get real. This discussion is insane.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/11/2008 10:39:34 PM | message detail
It's not like L-Block struggled with Laharl. If Sandbag is equal to L-Block round 1 last year I think he can beat out Magus. I don't think he has a chance in round 2 though.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:39:43 PM | message detail
Oh, and for laughs... heres last years oracle percentages for L Blocks first match:

Kirby - 51.03%
Laharl - 19.04%
L-Block - 18.94%
Nathan Hale - 10.93%
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