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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 593

Panthera | Posted 10/11/2008 9:52:47 PM | message detail
Wow I don't get why this was such an upset: Check out the guru: http://www.thengamer.com/guru/

Only THREE peopel picked this upset?


I bet a lot of people, whether guru or not, made up their minds about the bracket for the most part early on, before the user-submitted picture announcement was made. While with this performance, I have to wonder if Big Boss wouldn't have won anyway even with his ugly pictures, if you didn't think of this match when that announcement was made and it slipped your mind when you reviewed the bracket (since it doesn't really matter much to most characters), taking Kirby here seems logical. That's why I have Kirby winning here, at least. Definitely goofed on predicting how strong he (and Liquid) would be, but I maintain that picking Kirby is perfectly fine if you don't anticipate Naked Snake Big Boss
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/11/2008 9:53:01 PM | message detail
For whatever reason, I thought of this largely as a no-brainer until the bracket closed in favor of Kirby > BB. Haha, look how wrong my first impressions were here!


So, let's ask this: if we have BB/Kirby/MC/Raiden next round as expected, we can generally assume MC will have a standard pic of him. Let's say Raiden gets his ninja-look and BB gets his salute-pose from MGS3...does Kirby stand no chance even with this pic?

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/11/2008 9:55:24 PM | message detail
I can't see Big Boss advancing next round. Raiden sucks, but not nearly on the level of how much Lucas sucks. He'll be sapping Big Boss pretty hard. Unless something crazy happens tomorrow and Kain advances somehow.
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Panthera | Posted 10/11/2008 9:55:38 PM | message detail
So, let's ask this: if we have BB/Kirby/MC/Raiden next round as expected, we can generally assume MC will have a standard pic of him. Let's say Raiden gets his ninja-look and BB gets his salute-pose from MGS3...does Kirby stand no chance even with this pic?

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3664/r213thmatchly8.png


Master Chief and Big Boss break 50%. Each of them. Kirby and Raiden end at -12% and -18%, respectively
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/11/2008 9:55:56 PM | message detail
I'd vote for Kirby after seeing that. For sure.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 9:56:45 PM | message detail
I don't see Raiden effecting Big Boss much. If anything, He might end up under 10% cuz of Boss taking alot of his votes.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/11/2008 9:57:11 PM | message detail
Unless something crazy happens tomorrow and Kain advances somehow

That would make me want to take a **** on this whole division.

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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 9:58:20 PM | message detail
If Big Boss manages to evade Raiden LFF and last to the division finals, and if Leon can beat out Riku to get there and LFF Dante, we may very well see Master Chief>Big Boss in the division finals.

While I think the Boss is actually now probable to advance despite Raiden, I think most agree Riku's the favorite over Leon now though.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 9:58:25 PM | message detail
The Salute picture isn't that good for Big Boss. It's not instantly recognizable as "Oh hey, Solid Snake!" yet at the same time he's not getting owned by melting face either. The Salute pic is just about the fairest one I can think of for Big Boss, and if that mock pic turns out to be the actual one, I'd expect Kirby to move on without too much concern.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 9:59:28 PM | message detail
Kirby is completely safe in Round 2, sadly. Raiden will burden BB with a significant fanbase split, and Kirby is the lone Nintendo/cutesy option, anyway. It's Round 3 where I'm sensing trouble, especially if Riku is there instead of Leon (as is the general consensus).
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2008 9:59:47 PM | message detail
Uh, the salute is one of BB's defining moments as a character and is widely known by MGS fans. If he gets that he does even better than today.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:00:47 PM | message detail
And now the power hour ends. How fun it'll be to see Big Boss now...
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/11/2008 10:00:51 PM | message detail
No he doesn't KP, stop being stupid.

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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:01:18 PM | message detail
Uh, the salute is one of BB's defining moments as a character and is widely known by MGS fans. If he gets that he does even better than today.

No.
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transience | Posted 10/11/2008 10:01:30 PM | message detail
he won't go past round 3 - you've got sprites there.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:01:30 PM | message detail
I disagree, KP. I'd probably stand and salute, myself, for a solid minute if BB got the salute pic, but it's just not as appealing as today's picture. He looks absolutely amazing today.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/11/2008 10:02:07 PM | message detail
While I think the Boss is actually now probable to advance despite Raiden, I think most agree Riku's the favorite over Leon now though.

It blew my mind that Leon was the guru favourite to go to round 3 with Dante. Was nobody else watching the contest last year?
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:02:27 PM | message detail
Uh, the salute is one of BB's defining moments as a character and is widely known by MGS fans. If he gets that he does even better than today.

People who know defining moments from MGS probably aren't the same people who can't tell the difference between Snake and Big Boss... they're people who probably aren't voting based on the picture.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:02:36 PM | message detail
His salute pic might mean more to hardcore fans, but its not gonna help him as much as his picture saying "Hey, I'm Snake. Vote for me!"
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/11/2008 10:02:43 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'm in wishful thinking mode and have been since the start of the contest,

Salute overperformance is happening.

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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/11/2008 10:02:55 PM | message detail
If Big Boss manages to evade Raiden LFF and last to the division finals, and if Leon can beat out Riku to get there and LFF Dante, we may very well see Master Chief>Big Boss in the division finals.

Sprite Big Boss says no.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:03:26 PM | message detail
If we get Chief/Big Boss/Dante/Riku, can this Boss beat out Dante there anyway?

What pictures is the division final round? Would Boss be getting a Snake-like pic?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:03:53 PM | message detail
Its sprite round. So expect him to get a Solid **** lookalike.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:04:22 PM | message detail
It blew my mind that Leon was the guru favourite to go to round 3 with Dante. Was nobody else watching the contest last year?

*checks the Guru site*

...what in the
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2008 10:04:25 PM | message detail
A BB sprite would get crushed by...everyone else there easily
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:04:26 PM | message detail
Salute pic gets the American Patriotic peoples vote
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/11/2008 10:04:42 PM | message detail
If Boss gets a Solid **** picture and MC BADASS SFF's Dante then is Riku going through?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:05:40 PM | message detail
See guys, this is why 4way is better. We wouldn't be able to consider all these varibles and stuff in 1v1.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/11/2008 10:07:29 PM | message detail
This is all one big moot point. Kirby will be safe for the next round. Just look at his competition. Fanbase splits don't affect Nintendo characters exclusively, guys. Kirby will be aided by one in the next round, and he'll have the added benefit of being the only Nintendo vote.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/11/2008 10:07:50 PM | message detail
mc badass sff'ing dante?

this sounds like moltar logic for kirby taking second!
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:08:59 PM | message detail
and he'll have the added benefit of being the only Nintendo vote.

That only gets you so much. With Kirby being closer to DK then to Yoshi, he's going to need one hell of a split in order to place.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:09:14 PM | message detail
So the division finals are the sprite round?

See guys, this is why 4way is better. We wouldn't be able to consider all these varibles and stuff in 1v1.

4-way absolutely sucks compared to 1 on 1. 1 on 1 is tons more exciting and absorbing, and we've got boatloads of massively exciting potential matches there.

This contest is getting real fun, but it's no 1 on 1.
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Xcarvenger | Posted 10/11/2008 10:09:19 PM | message detail
How much do you people think Big Boss "Solid Snake" will win by if he faced Big Boss "Solid ****" 1 on 1 assuming no SFF?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:09:40 PM | message detail

PartOfYourWorld (#179)
This is all one big moot point. Kirby will be safe for the next round. Just look at his competition. Fanbase splits don't affect Nintendo characters exclusively, guys. Kirby will be aided by one in the next round, and he'll have the added benefit of being the only Nintendo vote.



...if this ends up like a 12-13% win by Boss, Kirby is done.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:10:46 PM | message detail
Lucas over 6%!
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/11/2008 10:10:50 PM | message detail
If Boss holds this lead, Raiden isn't going to be enough of a hindrance for Kirby to win assuming Boss gets another pic saying "HEY I'M SNAKE BUT NOT SNAKE".
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Xuxon | Posted 10/11/2008 10:11:47 PM | message detail
umm yeah dk and yoshi have done just as terribly, kirby isn't closer to dk than yoshi.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:11:48 PM | message detail
Looks like Jinjo's gonna be trying real hard to go below 10%.

Atta boy Jinjo, nice work ethic.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:12:48 PM | message detail
To be honest at this point, I'd be SHOCKED if Boss doesn't make round 3. Kirby is just sucking up the place too much.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:13:05 PM | message detail
In Kirby's defense, what few votes Lucas has would probably mostly go to Kirby here... and Jinjo uh... people say Banjo pretty much qualifies as a Nintendo character, so I guess JInjo would too... so we can throw Kirby most of those votes... yeah... and then Kirby looks better.... yeah... Kirby's got this next round...

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vcharon | Posted 10/11/2008 10:13:07 PM | message detail
Jinjo will be tanking faster than any character in the contest. Almost 3% loss in about an hour.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/11/2008 10:13:54 PM | message detail
Well, for those Kirby pickers in round 3, Luigi didn't do that bad against Dante last year, with Pikachu in the poll. kirby's got a chance without SFF for him to worry about.

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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:14:00 PM | message detail
Eh I doubt many people are voting for Jinjo cuz of Banjo Kazooie.
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:14:25 PM | message detail
Lucas over 6%!

And with his day vote, he should comfortably end up not being doubled by Jinjo.

Comfortably. Lucas is a beast!
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/11/2008 10:15:37 PM | message detail
Eh I doubt many people are voting for Jinjo cuz of Banjo Kazooie.


That's probably where most of his votes are coming from

because everybody loves Jinjo!
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:15:39 PM | message detail
Lucas over 6%!

or... he was
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:15:55 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 (#195)
Eh I doubt many people are voting for Jinjo cuz of Banjo Kazooie.


That's probably where most of his votes are coming from

because everybody loves Jinjo!



You'd expect them to. But alas...
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creativename | Posted 10/11/2008 10:16:03 PM | message detail
Although you really can't judge this stuff by trends, pretty much all of Jinjo's % bleeding has gone to Boss.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/11/2008 10:16:09 PM | message detail
umm yeah dk and yoshi have done just as terribly, kirby isn't closer to dk than yoshi.

Squall - 45%
Yoshi - 32%

Big Boss - 45%
Kirby - 35%

BB is still rising quickly and should finish with around 46/47%. Also, Kirby is leeching away Lucas' votes, which Yoshi was unable to do.

Pretty much, Squall's blowout on Yoshi is the exact same as BB's blowout on Kirby. Do you really think BB = Squall? Squall would massacre him.

Kirby is absolutely pathetic right now. Yes, I'd take him over DK, but I would have to think about it for a while.
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/11/2008 10:17:06 PM | message detail
Big Boss with Naked Snake pic = Top 15 CONFIRMED
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