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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 592
| BDawg | Posted 10/10/2008 6:31:45 PM | message detail |
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Psh Pac-man had a cartoon, I'm sure it was full of JOKES and stuff. --- Should I start running now? |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2008 6:33:44 PM | message detail |
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oh man cartoon SFF Pac-Man is so screwed --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| ZFS | Posted 10/10/2008 6:46:31 PM | message detail |
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I see the reaction to the Big Boss pic is as it should be --- kept you waiting, huh |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/10/2008 6:49:52 PM | message detail |
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At NGamer's behest, I have formed this page: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_vs_Square This details the Nintendo/Square rivalry across all contests, for your quick viewing pleasure. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/10/2008 6:51:37 PM | message detail |
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Pretty cool. Man, just look at 2005. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/10/2008 6:54:05 PM | message detail |
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Oh wait, forgot to include Link > Cloud 2006. Forgot that ended the 2006 contest. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| Yesmar | Posted 10/10/2008 6:54:55 PM | message detail |
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You know, I really wish that if Big Boss was going to get Naked Snake
pictures he would be listed as Naked Snake. I shouldn't have to guess
what picture he's going to get each round. --- "Oh! Those no-good dirty rotten low-down yellow-bellied thievin' slime-sucking salamanders!!""--Diddy Kong |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 6:55:30 PM | message detail |
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Yesmar (#157) Big boss = Naked Snake, though. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/10/2008 6:56:49 PM | message detail |
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He'd be stronger as Naked Snake, most likely, simply due to the name. Naked Snake vs. Mega Man X: Who you got? --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: 1st place, 57296 votes, 45.06% |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 6:58:10 PM | message detail |
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LeonhartFour (#159) Megaman X - 65% Naked Snake - 35% --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 7:08:53 PM | message detail |
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Oh, and Cloud ain't hitting 60%, too late. Ah well --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 7:18:43 PM | message detail |
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horrible cloud performance squarefaqs is dead unless voters have moved on to a ff character who's hair is more...black --- Moltar Status: augh Axel/Cloud/Midna/Miles - Bracket: Cloud > Midna - Vote: Midna (69/88) |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/10/2008 7:22:49 PM | message detail |
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...Barret? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| ZFS | Posted 10/10/2008 7:23:47 PM | message detail |
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only did 8% better than snake against weaker competition this smells
like striking distance with sephiroth added in who's with me --- kept you waiting, huh |
| Gaddswell | Posted 10/10/2008 7:24:37 PM | message detail |
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I read that as: voters have moved on to a ff character who's hair is more...block --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u205/MapleMasta/IkeClimbers2.jpg |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/10/2008 7:44:57 PM | message detail |
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Now that the real Zack is in the contest, the voters clearly no longer feel the need to vote for a clone of him! --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 70/88 --- T-258 (129 way) Bracket: Cloud > Midna --- Vote: Cloud |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2008 7:51:28 PM | message detail |
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Match XXIV: Mewtwo vs. Ness vs. Pac-Man vs. Travis Touchdown Information: Name: Mewtwo Game/Series From: Pokemon series 2007 Results: 3rd in round 1 Much to the board’s disappointment last year Mewtwo was stuck in an unwinnable position last year and despite that he was still able to have an impressive performance. In a match which contained three Nintendo characters Mewtwo was still able to have a respectable performance against Ryu. Name: Ness Game/Series From: Earthbound 2007 Results: 3rd in round 1 Ness was a part of the most debated four-pack in round 1 last year. When the match started it was expected of Ness to drop after the power hour, but with the amount that he was behind and his day vote not being as strong as expected left Ness with no option other than an early exit. Name: Pac-Man Game/Series From: Pac-Man series 2007 Results: 3rd in round 1 Pac-Man had the worst draw that he could have hoped for and for the third time in his last three contest appearances Pac-Man was up against a Mario character and worse yet it was Mario himself. Pac-Man was SFF into the ground much harder than before though he was still able to beat one character (lol Wander). Will Pac-Man be able to put the past behind him and do well? Name: Travis Touchdown Game/Series From: No More Heroes 2007 Results: Did not enter I’m not too sure who this character is though he’s the lead character from No More Heroes. Like many characters that I don’t know much about I’m not expecting this guy to do much in this match. Could this match be the fifth match in a row to have a character to finish below 10% of the vote? Analysis: The division ends with the most debated match of this division in round 1. First seems to be decided though the fight for second is still a heated debate. It’s interesting to see that the three returning characters all lost in round 1, but came in third and that all three of them are far from fodder. Despite not being in Brawl Mewtwo is still the huge favourite at coming in first in this match. While his opponents aren’t weaklings themselves Mewtwo’s performance against Ryu was very impressive despite having Bowser and Toad in the same poll. Pokemon’s strength in this format is still going strong though Lucario’s performance was very unimpressive. Lucky for Mewtwo he’s a more favourable Pokemon and one of the few that are stronger than fodder. While I said that Mewtwo’s opponents are not weaklings I ignored that Travis was in the poll. No More Heroes is on the Wii though it sold terribly and since I don’t see much of a cult fanbase anywhere I don’t think that the few fans of Travis will prevent him from going below 10%. Ness is the favourite to get second in this poll. The Earthbound fanbase is known to be very cultish and will vote for Ness over any opponent though that didn’t help him much in his match last year. While both Mewtwo and Ness are Nintendo I don’t believe that he will be SFF by Mewtwo because with the exception of the original Ness has never been anything special Mewtwo is arguably the worst character in Melee. That won’t stop Ness from suffering a little LFF however. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2008 7:51:56 PM | message detail |
| Pac-Man is a tough character to bet and with the
exception of 2005 I’ve always overestimated the guy. It’s known for a
fact that Pac-Man does not fare well against character from the Mario
series, but what about the rest of Nintendo? Pac-Man’s popularity is
unique in the fact that most voters of Pac-Man probably don’t have him
anywhere near their top 10 favourite characters (though somebody has to
remember the guy or else he wouldn’t get in the contest) and will only
vote for him if they don’t know or like the other options. This explain
why Mario characters, which are just as universally known as Pac-Man
though more liked would totally demolish him. Ness and Travis aren’t
universally well known and while Mewtwo and the Pokemon series are
there are people who won’t vote for a random Pokemon, even if they are
well known in the series. Mewtwo shouldn’t have a problem winning here though Ness and Pac-Man will be battling it out. With a lot of factors going against Pac-Man Ness should be considered the safe bet to win though with me favouring Pac-Man over Ness I’m going to kick it old school. charmander6000’s Bracket: Mewtwo > Pac-Man charmander6000’s Prediction: Mewtwo – 38.62%, Pac-Man – 28.37%, Ness – 25.26%, Travis – 7.75% --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 67/88 Today's Match: Cloud > Midna |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 10/10/2008 7:54:27 PM | message detail |
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Cloud's just a blonde haired Zack! --- 69/88 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Cloud Strife > Midna | http://www.thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=0 |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 8:02:36 PM | message detail |
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charmander6000’s Prediction: Mewtwo – 38.62%, Pac-Man – 28.37%, Ness – 25.26%, Travis – 7.75% One of the best predictions you've done yet. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2008 8:24:58 PM | message detail |
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One of the best predictions you've done yet. Because of Pac-Man > Ness or the percents that I predicted? --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 67/88 Today's Match: Cloud > Midna |
| Majin Lou | Posted 10/10/2008 8:25:47 PM | message detail |
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Travis has to get at least get 10 percent of the vote. He just has to. --- But the scars of memory never fade away. I can't stop loving you. Stop my tears. Stop my loving. Kill my memories. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 8:26:22 PM | message detail |
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charmander6000 (#171) Knowing how Travis will bomb --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/10/2008 8:29:44 PM | message detail |
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I'm thinking Travis is a lock for at least 10%. Look at his competition. They're practically the same guy. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:30:05 PM | message detail |
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Division 6: Round 1 - Match 24 – Mewtwo vs. Ness vs. Pac-Man vs. Travis Touchdown Moltar’s Analysis Mewtwo Game/Series Known From: Pokemon 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1 vs. Ryu, Bowser and Toad Mewtwo is back, and without Ryu and Bowser around, he’s looking to go far. Ness Game/Series Known From: Mother/Earthbound 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1vs. Liquid Snake, Alucard and Zidane Brawl Character #24, Ness was close to Round 2 last year, can he make it this year? Pac-Man Game/Series Known From: Pac-Man 2007 Results: 3rd Place in Round 1vs. Mario, Big Boss and Wander Geez, another third place Round 1 character. Unlike the other two, Pac got third by a mile. Travis Game/Series Known From: No More Heroes 2007 Results: N/A Travis made it! That’s so…moé Finally, after a string of easy ones, we finally get a match that requires some real thought! First up, we have Mewtwo. Last year, he was stuck in a rough fourpack with Ryu and Bowser. Most people knew he didn’t stand a chance, but when he came within a couple percent of Bowser, heads turned. If he’s as strong as that match suggested, then no other character in this group will be able to stop the Pokemon. Ness was also in a close match, but between two less popular characters. Liquid and Alucard aren’t slouches, but they’re no Ryu or Bowser either. Still, Ness has Brawl behind him (oh geez), and we all know how rabid the Mother fanbase is. Pac-Man is a very interesting contest character. Put him against an icon like Mario or Luigi, and he gets crushed. Put him against a not-so-mainstream guy like Ocelot or Kefka, and all of a sudden Pac-Man is looking good. Last year, he was in the same group with Mario and got destroyed. This year, the most mainstream character here (other than him) is a Pokemon…interesting. Travis is the fourth and final character here, and as much as I loved No More Heroes, and even though Travis will be getting the most important vote (my vote, of course), his chances of advancing here are low. I mean, it’s not like NMH was that popular (sequel announced though yessssssssssssssssssss). So I think Mewtwo has the best shot at first here. He’s a Pokemon, and we all know those darn things do well in this format. We’ve also seen Mewtwo stand up to Bowser, so there’s no way Ness or Pac-Man start giving him trouble. Also, if there’s any SFF between the other guys, he is most likely the one to benefit from it. Second place is a tough call between Ness and Pac-Man. On one hand, Pac-Man thrives on these kind of opponents, the one where there isn’t an icon to match Pac and voters blindly vote for him because “It’s freakin’ Pac-Man and I don’t care for whoever else”. Plus, he also has other fanbases to draw from as well besides Nintendo, which could tip the scales in his favor. On the other hand, his opponent is a popular Smash Bros. character, and even though Mother/Earthbound isn’t the biggest name here, Ness is still a known popular character thanks to Smash. Tie that in with his already hardcore fanbase, and that he’s more resistant to potential SFF than Pac-Man. I like my chances with Ness more here. Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mewtwo > Ness Moltar’s Prediction is: Mewtwo: 38% - Ness: 26% - Pac-Man: 23% - Travis: 13% Heroic Mario’s Analysis Have to make this quick today -- Mewtwo wins, Ness gets a scare from Pac-Man, and Travis continues the long line of niche characters doing especially poorly. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:30:22 PM | message detail |
| The big thing to keep an eye on in this one is
Ness and Pac-Man. I'm not sure how far away Pac-Man would be from Ness
under normal circumstances, but with SFF at play and a weakened
Nintendo this year, Pac's in a good position to pull something off. One
could argue that Pac-Man would hurt, too, but I'm not buying that --
there's no major icon here to sap that strength away, and the
competition here is poor (i'm voting for pac-man today what is going
on). I'm not biting on it, but I'm almost convinced it happens. We'll
see. The other thing is Mewtwo. There's already been some talk about him advancing to the quarterfinals, and if he puts on a good show here I expect there to be more jumping on that bandwagon. I think he'll do decent here, but nothing that blows anyone away. Prediction: Mewtwo - 36% ; Ness - 27% ; Pac-Man 25% ; Travis - 11% Bracket: Mewtwo > Ness Vote: Pac-Man (what a bad match) Yoblazer’s Analysis Woohoo, only one day to go before one of my most anticipated matches of the entire contest! Before we reach the epic Boss vs. Kirby showdown, however, we've gotta get through this match. It could be entertaining, and it might even throw us for a loop, but I'm not expecting too much. Our competitors are Mewtwo (Pokemon series, Melee), Ness (Earthbound, Smash series), Pac-Man, and Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes). I've found that it's tougher to write a buttload when the match is overloaded with a Smörgåsbord of SFF, and I'm pressed for time as it is, so let's spring through this one. Hey, at least I gave you Smörgåsbord! Smörgåsbord. Smörgåsbord. Smörgåsbord. Barring an upset that would make anything else we've seen this year appear expected, Mewtwo should have this win, and he should have it secured for miles (with like awesome Mewtwo brand barbed wire and ****). He's just as old school as Pikachu, is nearly as recognizable, and does not and has never received any stigma for being an annoying little rat thing. He's the "badass" Pokemon, would almost certainly remove Pikaface's entrails in a direct match, and may also be stronger indirectly. He also has years of extra exposure via Melee, and his first contest match last year was a doozy, as he wasn't too far removed from putting a scare in Bowser. I'm fully expecting Mewtwo to nuke his opponents here, confident that he'll snag up the ever impressive 40%+ along the way. The battle for second is between Ness and Pac-Man, but I'd be surprised if it turned into much of a battle. Ness certainly isn't much, but Pac-Man just sucks too ****ing much. He gets absolutely obliterated by anything Nintendo, and his only impressive performances came at the expense of relatively niche, mature characters against him he could his cartoony, casual advantage (Kefka and Ocelot). As such, he was a bit of an upset pick against Big Boss last year. How did he respond to the pressure? By getting more-than-doubled and barely putting up 10%. He's not going to magically shoot up to the mid-20s here, folks. He's too weak. He doesn't have any devoted fanbase. Mewtwo will suck the casual life out of him. Ness will lose some of his Nintendo/Smash support to Mewtwo, but he won't be hurt as badly as Pac-Man, and should stroll to an easy second place. Our last competitor, Travis Touchdown, is one I'll be keeping an eye on. He's from the niche and very modest-selling Wii game, No More Heroes, but that doesn't necessarily spell a recipe for disaster. Travis has been blessed with a trio of premium meth-pure Nintendo characters, and he should be arbitrarily boosted just because of this triple fanbase split. In addition to that, the guy looks cool, has an awesome name, and actually seems to have a bit of a devoted core fanbase. He won't place or anything, but he should do much, much better than some of the turds we've seen this year. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he beat Pac-Man. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:31:12 PM | message detail |
| In the end, however, the day belongs to Mewtwo.
He'll be going all crazy with his psychic attacks, extracting vengeance
for six years of snubs and bad bracket placement. Give em hell, badass
Pokemon. Mewtwo - 41% Ness - 26% Pac-Man - 17% Travis Touchdown - 16% Lopen’s Analysis Interesting match, this one. Let me give you my take. In first, Mewtwo... he proved himself last year... but not by as much as you think. In last, Touchdown. As we all know from Sackboy and Madden NFL, the football vote just doesn't mean much here, I'm afraid! Plus he looks like a jackass in that picture. Really, he does. Ness vs Pac-Man, who wins? Lookin at their records through the stats you're probably thinkin Ness. But how many times have we REALLY seen Pac-Man not behind a SFF screen in some way? Let me tell you how many times. One year, in 2002, when he ripped through a weak area of the bracket to be eventually taken down by Scorpion. I'm tellin you here, you don't wanna look at the stats, because Pac-Man is totally worthless to read through them. "Oh, but he'll get SFFed again here!" you claim. Nay. Only those of iconia can touch Pac-Man with the SFF. You think Ness and Mewtwo have it? They don't have it. They aren't old school enough... even Pikachu would be hard-pressed to budge this guy. Ness vs Mewtwo is the bigger potential SFF magnet, I think. They share SSBM, and they're closer to the same era of gaming. Plus, their games are kinda similar in some ways. Similar combat systems at least (well, assuming Earthbound was converted into a 1v1 fighting system.) RPGs. Thing is, that's not even why I have Pac-Man winning here. I just think he's the more impressive participant. Ness has two wins under his belt, neither of which compare to Ocelot or Kefka (50/50 is close enough to winning). Mostly Ness is about "looking good in defeat" whereas Pac-Man is actually about getting it done and winning in matches that weren't even supposed to be close. Trust me, with no real sources of SFF around... Pac-Man is going to surprise. Plus he's got the Pac-Man Jones vote... bad, bad Mr. Pac-Man Jones... Mr. Mr. Pac-Man Jones... bad bad Mr. Pac-Man Jones... Mr. Mr. Pac-Man Jones. *repeats ad nauseam* Oh, and as for why Mewtwo is going to be a little underwhelming? See Ness. Lopen's prediction: Mewtwo - 35.11% Pac-Man - 29.39% Ness - 27.05% Madden NFL - 8.45% Transience’s Analysis let's talk about Pac-Man. Pac-Man is a unique character. he is unlike anybody else because he has no real strength - his strength comes from being well-known and iconic but not because anyone actually likes the dude. the first real video game character gets votes against niche characters due to being so exposed, while other characters that trump him in that category destroy him. he's had three matches over the years with Nintendo icons - Luigi, Yoshi, and Mario - and he's gotten hammered each time. it would make sense that this format doesn't really suit him since most of his votes are out of being recognizable. but look at his competition here -- Nintendo, Nintendo, and Nintendo-lite. and it's not like we're dealing with icons here, we're dealing with Mewtwo, Ness and Travis Touchdown. what is your typical xbox fan going to vote for? how about your ps3 fan? or your pc fan? does anybody actually think that Ness is iconic, or that he's really popular and liked? maybe to the Nintendo base, but not much more. and let's not forget that the Nintendo base is split three ways here. Pac-Man is by far the most unique character here. Ness and Mewtwo overlap way more than they do with Pac-Man. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:31:27 PM | message detail |
| I could actually see Pac-Man taking first here. it
wouldn't surprise me at all. there's going to be a lot of apathetic
votes. Nintendo hasn't done well this year. Brawl's not boosting Ness
to heaven or anything. Earthbound and Pokemon are both Nintendo RPGs.
Pac-Man is going to get a lot of "who the hell cares?" votes here. it's
totally possible that he could bomb, but I'd bet on a well-known iconic
Yellow Thing over a fat kid with a baseball bat that's got a shared
fanbase. sorry, HaRRicH. too much Nintendo Pac-Man benefits greatly maybe gets first place transience's prediction: Mewtwo with 35.44%, Pac-Man with 31.25%, Ness with 24.98%, Travis Touchdown with 9.33% Ngamer’s Analysis Another day, another slightly (not hugely, just slightly) disappointing performance from an overwhelming favorite! The trend this year isn't NintendoFAQs, certainly, but as today shows it's also not SquareFAQs. And despite what some overly dramatic purists might be saying, I don't think its fair to call it JokeFAQs either. Sure WCC wowed us, but it's not as though whichever character has the strongest "joke appeal" or stands out the most from the traditional character options is seeing a significant boost in every match. If that was ever a theory, it was certainly disproven by Tim and Sackboy and Axel Steel, and most likely Travis will continue beating that now-dead horse tonight. If there's any trend at play in '08, it would appear to be anti-favoriteFAQs. Extremely odd occurrence, and something we'll definitely have to keep an eye on as these matches continue to play out... for the sake of our Oracles if nothing else! I doubt the flight from favorites does anything to hurt Mewtwo's showing in this next one, as there are probably plenty of casuals giving Ness and/or Pac-Man equally good chances of advancing into R2. Let's take a look at how things went last year for these three: Last Known Values Mewtwo - 23.73% (2007) Ness - 20.46% (2007) Pac-Man - 11.19% (2007) Travis - new Just looking at the numbers, you'd have to call that a disappointing showing for this whole batch of characters. But Mewtwo has a good excuse- he got close to the worst draw imaginable, and the uproar that went out across this board when we first saw it was justifiable. Even against those long odds, Mewtwo put on a nice showing, especially with the ASV where he went on a pretty much awesome tear for a few hours, making some serious cuts on both Bowser and Ryu. There shouldn't be anything in this new group to hinder his ASV appeal either, and in fact I'd be shocked if any of these three hindered him at any time during the day to keep this from being a wire to wire runaway victory for the King of the Pokemon. Pac-Man looked bad in '07, but again, he at least had a good excuse. The guy doesn't respond well to old school or iconic opposition, and considering Mario is the perfect example of both those qualities, we should have known he'd be in for a hurtin' come match day. Mewtwo didn't even arrive on the scene until '97 (and didn't hit it big until the first Pokemon movie in '99), and of course Ness wasn't even on gamers' radars until SSB in '99, and Travis is obviously extremely new, so I don't see any of these options having the old or iconic appeal needed to hold Pac back. He's also the only option for voters who don't want to support Nintendo, which is apparently on of the agenda for at least a decent number of voters this season. I really wanted Pac to get his classic sprite look for this match pic, but even with this colorful 3D version of himself I'm liking his chances to have a decent outing here. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:32:20 PM | message detail |
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Now, Ness also looked bad last time around, but unlike his co-contestants the Boy Wonder had no
excuse. He was the lone Nintendo/Smash/"kiddie" option in a sea of
mature PSX stars, and his failure to do ANYTHING with that huge
advantage was one of the most baffling things about the entire Contest
to me. Clearly his past 1v1 success was more a case of people being
apathetic about or flat out disliking his previous opponents rather
than people actually feeling strongly about Ness himself. However, you
could say the same thing (and indeed many have) about Pac-Man. What's
the difference? The difference is that there's an ELEPHANT in the way,
and his name is Mewtwo. I doubt Mew kills Ness within the Smash
fanbase, but honestly all he should need to do is tip the scales
slightly, and that would be enough to give Pac-Man the advantage. I see
it happening. Travis will be fodder, but like Axel before him, he's that good kind of fodder that I don't at all mind seeing in 128 character brackets. Really cool character design, has the Sword Factor working overtime for him, and heck, even his name is hilarious. He probably could have done better in a group without other recent Nintendo options, but no biggie, I still see him having enough appeal to crack into the double digits without much problem. Anything too far beyond that is probably out of his range regardless of opponent. So with Mewto a clear cut above the rest, Ness and Pac very close but the scales getting tipped in the favor of the old schooler, and Travis being able to avoid embarrassment, the end result has been potted and stirred and now I'll serve it to you. Mewtwo - 37.92% Pac-Man - 24.50% Ness - 23.61% Travis Touchdown - 13.96% Hm... not entirely comfortable with picking Mewtwo that high. But on the other hand, who's going to stop him? Ngamer Says: Mewtwo > Pac-Man Guest’s Analysis - KamikazePotato Man, excluding the Zidane match going with my favorites in debated matches hasn't worked out so well this year. Maybe my favorite characters only advance if I do a Guest Writeup for them. If so, thank you Moltar! Today we have another debatable match because of LFF. While intrinsic to the format, it seems like we've lost the ability to have debatable matches without some character sapping some other poor sap. This match's poor sap is Ness, trying his hardest to hold onto the casual Nintendo vote with Mewtwo in the poll. His fearsome opponent is Pac-man, one of the most unpredictable characters in the contest. Seriously, tell me with a straight face that you know what Pac-man is going to do. The guy lost to Lettuce Kefka, then beat Melty Ocelot, then nearly lost to Wander (while being SFFd by Mario, but still). Pac-man doesn't have an actual fanbase, and thus is one of the biggest 'apathy vote' characters out there. He could lose to Travis, or beat Ness comfortably. We really don't know. And speaking of Travis, he isn't doing much here. No More Heroes sold better than people realize, but he's up against stiff competition for a guaranteed fodder character. NMH fans like the guy, and he's got a freaking laser sword in his pic, but 2nd place is impossible. The most he can do is hope that Pac-man or Ness flops and then edge them out somehow. |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:32:49 PM | message detail |
| Mewtwo is a lock for first. He held up respectably
to Bowser and Ryu in the biggest case of wasted potential on 2007. The
match probably overrated him somewhat in the stats as Toad sapping
Bowser made him look better, so I doubt he breaks 40% here, but getting
2nd would absolutely shock pretty much everyone around here. Which leaves Ness. The poor guy, much like Kefka, always seems to be put in debatble matches. He's one of those characters that's just strong enough to be a low midcarder, which makes for some interesting results. Last year Ness disappointed, failing to capitalize on triple PS1 LFF and getting 3rd in a match many took him to get 2nd in. Pac-man is much weaker competition than Alucard and Liquid, but with Mewtwo hurting him, will he make it? This isn't the most high-profile match, which makes Pac-man's 'apathy vote' all the stronger. Problem is, all the argument for Mewtwo crippling Ness are very similar to Pikachu crippling Ike, which simply didn't happen. Ike didn't advance, but it was because Arthas turned out to be stronger than expected; Ike did better than most people thought he would, even decisively winning the ASV over Pikachu. Ike was favored over Pikachu in the SSB fandom, and so is Ness over Mewtwo (Mewtwo was terrible in his sole appearance). If anything, Ness rSFFs Mewtwo's SSB vote. As for the Pokemon and EB fanbases, Pokemon has already shown that it's somewhat seperated from the rest of Nintendo, and if you think that Earthbound fans of all people are going to abandon the game or any of it's characters, you don't know them well enough. Of course, there will be some LFF. It's impossible for there to be no overlap. However, it won't be a lot. Pac-man's apathy vote, while helped by this not being a high-profile match, is also hurt by the fact that the voters still have 3 other choices to choose from. In short, Earthbound rules and Ness should beat down Mewtwo if this were a perfect world. But not too much, Mewtwo is pretty cool. KP's Bracket: what does it matter, the thing is in flames KP's Vote: Ness (shocker of shockers) KP's Prediction: Mewtwo: 38.58% Ness: 26.32% Pac-man: 21.6% Travis Touchdown: 13.5% Crew Consensus: In a close one, Ness beats out Pac-Man for the second spot. Mewtwo takes first. |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 8:33:38 PM | message detail |
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I see this as being a possible nail biter that comes to the end between Ness and Pac Man. We haven't had any of them yet. --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/10/2008 8:34:00 PM | message detail |
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his only impressive performances came at the expense of relatively
niche, mature characters against him he could his cartoony, casual
advantage Holy crap. I don't think I've ever mangled a sentence that badly in my life. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 8:35:19 PM | message detail |
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lol... seems cloud has been stuffed last couple updates, someone wants to get him to 60% --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/10/2008 8:39:11 PM | message detail |
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What? The second night vote is Cloud's best time, and he sadly isn't getting to 60%. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 70/88 --- T-258 (129 way) Bracket: Cloud > Midna --- Vote: Cloud |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2008 8:48:00 PM | message detail |
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if Pac-Man's even close to Ness in the early going, I'd say Ness is in huge trouble. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2008 8:51:24 PM | message detail |
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also, I feel that this match is extremely unpredictable and that the
percentages people are guessing are going to be way off in some way. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/10/2008 8:52:52 PM | message detail |
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Whoa, I had no idea so many Gurus (62) have Pac-Man placing second. No
wonder the Oracle predictions weren't as lopsided as I thought they'd
be. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| paraboxx | Posted 10/10/2008 8:58:40 PM | message detail |
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Ness 35% Mewtwo 30% Pac-Man 25% Travis 10% Note: I am not exactly convinced this will happen. I am, however, convinced just enough to post this now so I can pretend I knew it all along later. |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2008 8:58:49 PM | message detail |
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At one point Pac-Man and Ness were going 50/50 in the bop before Ness really took off. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 67/88 Today's Match: Cloud > Midna |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 8:59:27 PM | message detail |
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travis domination let's do this --- Moltar Status: augh Mewtwo/Ness/Pac-Man/Travis - Bracket: Mewtwo > Ness - Vote: Travis (73/92) |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/10/2008 9:00:15 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo 37.5% 3 Ness 25% 2 Pac-Man 37.5% 3 Travis Touchdown 0% 0 TOTAL VOTES 8 --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/16hnm05.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2008 9:00:37 PM | message detail |
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uh oh. think this is over! WITH 23 HOURS 59 MINUTES TO GO --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| charmander6000 | Posted 10/10/2008 9:00:42 PM | message detail |
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Mewtwo 29.73% 11 Ness 27.03% 10 Pac-Man 29.73% 11 Travis Touchdown 13.51% 5 TOTAL VOTES 37 Let's go Pac-Man. --- Board 8 BOP: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB7%20BOP.xls Character Battle 2008: Points 67/88 Today's Match: Cloud > Midna |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 9:00:50 PM | message detail |
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so much for ness next match --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Master Moltar | Posted 10/10/2008 9:00:53 PM | message detail |
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pac with the board vote augh --- Moltar Status: augh Mewtwo/Ness/Pac-Man/Travis - Bracket: Mewtwo > Ness - Vote: Travis (73/92) |
| MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/10/2008 9:01:01 PM | message detail |
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OH GOD NESS IS LOSING THE BOARD VOTE TO PAC-MAN --- Demyx is better than Axel. |
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/10/2008 9:01:22 PM | message detail |
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That's seriously the best pic of Mewtwo I've ever seen. --- "A joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners." -Moltar Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/10/2008 9:01:31 PM | message detail |
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Yeah this is over. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/10/2008 9:01:31 PM | message detail |
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though I could see Pac having the bracket advantage here.. who knows.
still, for a Smash fave and Guru fave to be down in the early vote
against friggin' Pac Man.. yeah. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/10/2008 9:01:34 PM | message detail |
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MegatokyoEd (#196) Haha this'll just get worse Why did people think Ness stood a chance? o.O --- http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
