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HaRRicH | Posted 10/6/2008 12:16:52 PM | message detail
Meh, I don't care much for Pit. Dedede's where it's at, and I don't even know how the experts use him (other than chain-grabbing, which I don't like to do).
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 12:17:43 PM | message detail
And here comes the after school vote

Nice knowing ya Zero.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/6/2008 1:07:43 PM | message detail
Really liking Vivi's chances next round if he doesn't bomb tomorrow. Triple Badass LFF and all that.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:10:02 PM | message detail
Yay my bracket has Vivi next round

woo feeling good
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/6/2008 1:10:38 PM | message detail
1000 vote lead
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:24:10 PM | message detail
It's funny that people think Ike had a chance to win after the fact, when they were calling for him to be killed before the match.

God, I hate you people.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/6/2008 1:24:54 PM | message detail
uhh what?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/6/2008 1:25:01 PM | message detail

Biolizard28 (#206)
It's funny that people think Ike had a chance to win after the fact, when they were calling for him to be killed before the match.

God, I hate you people.



Ike = fodder
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:29:37 PM | message detail
Then Arthas is lower fodder, if he couldn't stay 1000 votes away from an SFF'd Ike.

Do I have that right?
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MyWorldIsCrono | Posted 10/6/2008 1:31:00 PM | message detail

Biolizard28 (#209)
Then Arthas is lower fodder, if he couldn't stay 1000 votes away from an SFF'd Ike.

Do I have that right?



Who was also being sff'd by Spy

Fact is, Arthas = advances
Ike = fodder

Who will likely never get back in due to Blizzard rallying and The Lich King
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:32:19 PM | message detail
Who was also being sff'd by Spy

I'll stop reading right here. You're only trolling me at this point.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:32:46 PM | message detail
You're the one who started it by bringing up a 3 day old match for no reason.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:40:51 PM | message detail
Btw BL

weren't you the one who said "Derp" in response to me saying Pit would beat DDD, and DDD would only have 13%

You gotta respect your intellectual superiors more. How many points you got this contest? Like 50?
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vcharon | Posted 10/6/2008 1:43:52 PM | message detail
Ike is not fodder. Seriously, don't bring this anti-Arthas/Ike crap back in here again, wtf guys.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:46:13 PM | message detail
I'm only saying Ike is fodder cuz it pisses off BL.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:48:21 PM | message detail
HeroicTronBonne (#212)
You're the one who started it by bringing up a 3 day old match for no reason.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=45821486

HeroicTronBonne (#213)
weren't you the one who said "Derp" in response to me saying Pit would beat DDD, and DDD would only have 13%

You gotta respect your intellectual superiors more. How many points you got this contest? Like 50?


Because I simply can't assume that Dedede is more popular than Pit? Do you honestly think you're better than I am for making a good guess?
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satai_delenn | Posted 10/6/2008 1:48:54 PM | message detail
Hey, I come back and Pit's beating Dedede, things are great! All troops, move out!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:49:42 PM | message detail
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:51:28 PM | message detail
But it was obvious. When it comes to 2 very weak characters who only have brawl support, the more popular brawl character would win. And thats what happened. DDD is complete fodder even with Brawl, so I don't see how anyone would peg him for anything more then 15%
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:51:59 PM | message detail
You know, for all the Brawl bashing a few of you do when it comes to contest strength, you're still quick to rely on it when making predictions.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/6/2008 1:52:08 PM | message detail
Ike sucks so much ass Tanner would double him.

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vcharon | Posted 10/6/2008 1:52:11 PM | message detail
I'll admit that I would have thought Dedede would have done better here because he has Kirby games to fall back on besides Brawl. Pit has a really old game most people have not played.

My conclusion is that Dedede just really, really sucks but both are still well below the fodder line.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:53:17 PM | message detail
Well, how can I not rely on Brawl when it comes to 2 brawl newcomers? Obviously, when both characters are in the same game and both brawl newcomers, the more popular Brawl newcomer will win. And pit is the more casual friendly player. DDD would never do anything in this contest with Kirby game strength, just like Pit would never do anything just with Kid Icarus. So its all about whos more popular in SSBB.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:55:36 PM | message detail
HeroicTronBonne (#223)
Well, how can I not rely on Brawl when it comes to 2 brawl newcomers?

Because one had an existing fanbase and the other didn't?

DDD would never do anything in this contest with Kirby game strength, just like Pit would never do anything just with Kid Icarus.

By that logic, ALL of Kirby's strength comes from Smash.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:57:33 PM | message detail
Because one had an existing fanbase and the other didn't?

I'd venture to say that DDD's fanbase was hardly bigger at all the Pits beforehand. I'm not a big Nintendo fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I knew of Pit since I was a kid, yet never heard of DDD till he was announced for Brawl.

By that logic, ALL of Kirby's strength comes from Smash.

For many second and third tier series, the side characters strength mainly comes from Smash, not the main characters. Like do you think Falco would have any strength outside of Smash?
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Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/6/2008 1:57:50 PM | message detail
Ike sucks so much ass Tanner would double him.

Now that's way off base. It isn't Ike's fault he was tied down with SFF.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/6/2008 1:58:07 PM | message detail
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vcharon | Posted 10/6/2008 1:59:29 PM | message detail
I disagree with the fact that Falco's strength is reliant on Smash. Star Fox > Kirby in terms of strength... and Falco is just... well he's Falco, everyone knows Falco. Kirby is the only character from his game that can do anything because he's the only one most people know.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 1:59:38 PM | message detail
You want to come out behind your alt and post that with your main, or do you want to stop pretending you have authority over me, newbie?
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 1:59:56 PM | message detail

TestIcicles (#227)
Bio shut the hell up. You don't know what you're talking about. You use the most ass-stupid "logic" I've ever seen to determine matches. I don't know if you consistently miss the point of everyone's post because you're a moron, or if you're being intentionally dense. Either way, stop posting. Forever.



His logic is his favortism. He likes DDD more, so DDD must be stronger then Pit. He likes Ike more, so Ike must be stronger then Arthas.
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chaosarcher07 | Posted 10/6/2008 2:00:27 PM | message detail
I would think that Falco would have strength without Smash.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:00:47 PM | message detail

vcharon (#228)
I disagree with the fact that Falco's strength is reliant on Smash. Star Fox > Kirby in terms of strength... and Falco is just... well he's Falco, everyone knows Falco. Kirby is the only character from his game that can do anything because he's the only one most people know.



Falco wouldn't be putting up the votals he had round 1 without Smash, though.
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trannyscience | Posted 10/6/2008 2:00:51 PM | message detail
Pit and DDD are probably somewhere near the fodder line. tough to say when they're both exclusively Brawl characters and in the same match. of course they're going to look bad. this isn't Brawl sucking, it's two equal Brawl characters going against each other.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:02:05 PM | message detail

trannyscience (#233)
Pit and DDD are probably somewhere near the fodder line. tough to say when they're both exclusively Brawl characters and in the same match. of course they're going to look bad. this isn't Brawl sucking, it's two equal Brawl characters going against each other.



I fear what Lucas will get with a significantly stronger Brawl character there, and never appearing in an American game and isn't even liked in Brawl.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 2:02:43 PM | message detail
HeroicTronBonne (#230)
His logic is his favortism. He likes DDD more, so DDD must be stronger then Pit. He likes Ike more, so Ike must be stronger then Arthas.

Because Dedede doesn't have a leg to stand on, despite having a fanbase that existed before Brawl was even revealed, and Ike couldn't have possibly have resisted SFF through his own loyal fanbase and taking the majority of Smash votes.

Yeah, complete favoritism there, I tell ya.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 2:04:47 PM | message detail
Also, I'm not going to bother arguing with a 12 day old account, thanks.
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vcharon | Posted 10/6/2008 2:06:45 PM | message detail
But this is Brawl sucking. Not sucking in my opinion, but sucking when you compare the real vote totals to the predictions. The majority of people around here thought Brawl was going to be this huge factor when it turned out it was a small factor, almost a non-factor. The only Brawl characters that have done well are the ones that were in the first two games.

I'm not saying there's no Brawl boost, but it's very small and hardly noticeable. This match just proves it. Even with SFF, both of them added together don't come anywhere close to Ryu and Zero, who are solid midcarders sure... but nothing more than that really. I'd say that makes for fodder.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:06:59 PM | message detail

Biolizard28 (#236)
HeroicTronBonne (#230)
His logic is his favortism. He likes DDD more, so DDD must be stronger then Pit. He likes Ike more, so Ike must be stronger then Arthas.

Because Dedede doesn't have a leg to stand on, despite having a fanbase that existed before Brawl was even revealed, and Ike couldn't have possibly have resisted SFF through his own loyal fanbase and taking the majority of Smash votes.

Yeah, complete favoritism there, I tell ya.



Well both proved to be wrong.
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TestIcicles | Posted 10/6/2008 2:07:12 PM | message detail
Good, because I wasn't intending on arguing with a 12 year old.

burrrrrrrrrn

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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 2:09:47 PM | message detail
So because both proved to be wrong, that makes my logic pure favoritism?

And people are complaining about me.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:10:50 PM | message detail
Didn't you have Mega Man > Olimar as well?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2008 2:11:14 PM | message detail

Biolizard28 (#206)
It's funny that people think Ike had a chance to win after the fact, when they were calling for him to be killed before the match.

God, I hate you people.



Are you stunned?

I said from day ****ing 1 that 1v1, Ike/Arthas was debateable. Then Ike performed decently despite Pikachu being there, and now I would take Ike in a 1v1 situation. Stop trying to out-troll me, because the number 1 pre-requisite for being a good troll is being right.
Biolizard28 | Posted 10/6/2008 2:12:43 PM | message detail
HeroicTronBonne (#242)
Didn't you have Mega Man > Olimar as well?

I had Mega Man > Nero.

I was actually wondering why people would ever think Olimar could advance.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:13:33 PM | message detail
Okay good you weren't bad enough to have Olimar. Those are the people beyond hope.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/6/2008 2:14:49 PM | message detail
Also, let it be known that I bet against Brawl characters in most situations. The only one I didn't was Lucario, but I figured Altair would be fodder given the poor reviews Assassin's creed got.

Whoops.
HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:16:20 PM | message detail
Fire emblem 10 got mediocre reviews and it didn't prevent Ike from doing well
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KommunistKoala | Posted 10/6/2008 2:16:39 PM | message detail

HeroicTronBonne (#225)
yet never heard of DDD till he was announced for Brawl.



This may be the biggest fail I've ever seen
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/6/2008 2:20:03 PM | message detail

KommunistKoala (#248)

HeroicTronBonne (#225)
yet never heard of DDD till he was announced for Brawl.



This may be the biggest fail I've ever seen



Never played Kirby games.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/6/2008 2:34:21 PM | message detail
Bio, be quiet. We really don't need to bring Ike up again. He did better than expected. So did Arthas. That's all there is to it.

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