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vcharon | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:05 PM | message detail

Solidus and Sorrow are awesoms.

Also, Pit/Ryu cut.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:06 PM | message detail

I still don't understand why people are blaming this on Zero. He's got 35% here and he will increase as DDD and Pit drop off overnight. Compare this fourpack to last year's and it's definitely tougher. I'd take all 3 of these guys over Jak/HK/Lloyd, and Ryu is a high midcarder as well. This is NG2 boost, and I think a great comparison will be next round as it has characters of very similar strength to Snake/Ryu/Riku/Nightmare

ZFS | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:37 PM | message detail

Somebody is going to submit a Snake sprite (seriously, did you see that Kefka picture?), and Bacon's going to use it because it fits the round's theme.

Comparing Snake's MGS1 / MG1 pic to Kefka is no good. Kefka's in a no win situation with his pics -- no, lettuce really isn't that better of an alternative -- and the one that was chosen was probably the only other that fit there.

It's a different situatiion with Snake. An MGS1 pic very much fits the "theme" (sans the whole "first appearance" thing, but I'm sure he's not going to adhere to them that strictly) and looks better to boot. Not saying it'll happen, but it's hard for me to see Snake getting it with all the other, better options he'll have to choose from

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:39 PM | message detail

Oh boy.

Cmon Zero and DDD. Show em who's boss!
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:41 PM | message detail

red sox 777 (#398)
Zero won't need all that big a lead before the ASV. Looking at Link/Crono/Vincent/Zero last year:

Gain from 3 PM to end:

Link: +0.68%
Crono: -1.16%
Vincent: -0.11%
Zero: +0.62%

Zero's ASV looks quite impressive when you consider that he gained nearly as much at 12% as Link gained at 45%.

Ryu is best during day, and none of those characters are what I'd call day monsters.
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transience | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:42 PM | message detail

Zero's day vote is decent. he's not like Mega Man.

Ryu's is better though.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:45 PM | message detail

Zero has an alright day vote but you do not bet against the Xbox day vote. He needs a substantial lead.
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Lopen | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:57 PM | message detail

Sorry, but even Link's ASV doesn't compare with that of the X-Box. He will need that cushion... oh yes... and he will get no such thing! Hayabusa takes charge when the NPH ends...!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2008 9:36:59 PM | message detail

Solidus would only be over the line for having "Snake" in his name. And even then it might not be enough. We need Grey Fox up in this contest anyhow.

(or screw it let's go all out and get Liquid Ocelot in who's up for some split-face photoshoppin')

And see, that's what I meant on not trusting erratic updates.
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transience | Posted 10/5/2008 9:37:20 PM | message detail

then again, Riku beat Hayabusa pretty well in the day. that's no fault of his but I wouldn't say his day vote is godly or anything.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/5/2008 9:38:19 PM | message detail

Oh Ryu's day vote is better, no doubt. I'm just saying he won't be pulling any huge comebacks tomorrow.
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:38:20 PM | message detail

transience (#410)
then again, Riku beat Hayabusa pretty well in the day. that's no fault of his but I wouldn't say his day vote is godly or anything.

Kingdom Hearts is like the king of day vote though. Not really fair to compare it to KH.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:38:32 PM | message detail

That's because Riku is Kingdom Hearts, the series with the very definition of childish fanbase.

ZFS | Posted 10/5/2008 9:39:46 PM | message detail

Hayabusa should have the advantage with the day vote, I would think. Probably rather decisively, but Zero does seem to hold up better than Mega Man does.

We need Grey Fox up in this contest anyhow.

let's do this

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Kept you waiting, huh

BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:39:50 PM | message detail

Just look at Axel/Mega Man to get somewhat of a comparison for trends here. Zero is very balanced with his voting trends, he's just always stuck against day vote kings like Sonic, Mario and Luigi.

HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:40:40 PM | message detail

And Zero is being stuffed
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/5/2008 9:40:56 PM | message detail

THAT is what Zero needs. A couple more updates like that and he'll be fine.
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vcharon | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:03 PM | message detail

Huge Zero stuff there, whoo for rally.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:13 PM | message detail

Sweet, killer increase by Zero.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:17 PM | message detail

Oooh...Grey Fox. Noice one there KP.

I think some kind of new MGS character rally needs to happen. For sure.

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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:23 PM | message detail

That was a 41% update after constant 35-36%

nothing odd about that
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transience | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:24 PM | message detail

whoa. nice update.
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CP724 | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:28 PM | message detail

wtf

Master Moltar | Posted 10/5/2008 9:41:57 PM | message detail

HeroicTronBonne (#421)
That was a 41% update after constant 35-36%

nothing odd about that

not at all considering it was all ryu dying
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2008 9:42:13 PM | message detail

That was mostly just Ryu H dropping off...

...except everyone dropped off except Zero. Ryu H's fall was particularly precipitous (he was likely on track to lose that update as well), but considering that votals are supposed to be falling right now I think we know what to think of this.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:42:19 PM | message detail

I predict a Zero spike n_n

Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2008 9:42:42 PM | message detail

The Bird is attacking Ryu.

OF COURSE!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/5/2008 9:43:09 PM | message detail

That one was all Ryu. Fell off the map.

I'm getting tired of these almost-upsets. Isaac, Gordon, Ike, And now Ryu.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:43:24 PM | message detail

The Bird for 2009!

HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:43:24 PM | message detail

I predict next update will be a big ryu update

they can't just let the zero stuffers have all the fun, afterall!
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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2008 9:43:53 PM | message detail

I think some kind of new MGS character rally needs to happen. For sure.

No real need to bother. The main character of MGS5, whoever it is, will fit the bill nicely.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2008 9:44:13 PM | message detail

I hate those goddamned birds as much as I hate The Dog.

They can choke on a bowl of ****'s.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/5/2008 9:44:15 PM | message detail

...why aren't we looking directly at Hayabusa/Zero 2k5 to see who wins the day-vote?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2068&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Looks like Hayabusa barely won out three years ago. I don't think Zero's done much in the past three years to keep fresh with the ASV and Hayabusa is hot again with NG2 now, so I would expect him to win more now...how much, I I dunno, but I think Hayabusa can come back at least 500 votes if necessary, perhaps more.
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KleenexTissue50 | Posted 10/5/2008 9:44:25 PM | message detail

The main character of MGS5

raiden time
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:44:31 PM | message detail

I'll agree to support a new MGS character if we never nominate Raiden or The Boss again.

HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:44:42 PM | message detail

HaRRicH (#433)
...why aren't we looking directly at Hayabusa/Zero 2k5 to see who wins the day-vote?

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=2068&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

Looks like Hayabusa barely won out three years ago. I don't think Zero's done much in the past three years to keep fresh with the ASV and Hayabusa is hot again with NG2 now, so I would expect him to win more now...how much, I I dunno, but I think Hayabusa can come back at least 500 votes if necessary, perhaps more.

Vastly outdated. Xbox day trends weren't much to speak of back then
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/5/2008 9:45:14 PM | message detail

Because Hayabusa is much better in the daytime now than he was back then. The X-Box is no longer hated on this site.

KamikazePotato | Posted 10/5/2008 9:45:52 PM | message detail

And...stall?

Going to bed, these voting patterns hurt my head.

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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2008 9:46:01 PM | message detail

Raiden is Guile now.

In which he's a Douche Family Man.

poor Raiden :/
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vcharon | Posted 10/5/2008 9:46:30 PM | message detail

Not much change there. None at all with Pit/DDD.
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ZFS | Posted 10/5/2008 9:46:44 PM | message detail

raiden time more like big boss time

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Karma Hunter | Posted 10/5/2008 9:47:09 PM | message detail

I'll agree to support a new MGS character if we never nominate Raiden or The Boss again.

I would think two characters that would decimate Protoman would be a shoo-in for your criteria!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/5/2008 9:47:14 PM | message detail

Stall. Small lead increase of like, 2-3 votes.
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transience | Posted 10/5/2008 9:47:14 PM | message detail

power hour never makes sense. gotta wait til 1am to see a more natural trend.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/5/2008 9:47:23 PM | message detail

Uh, Xbox day trends were very strong back then too- look at MC/Frog and MC/Crono. Xbox has become stronger in general, not just the day vote. I do agree that the start time change makes comparisons difficult though.
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Lopen | Posted 10/5/2008 9:47:38 PM | message detail

Uhhh... X-Box's day vote was still godly in 2005.

In 2004 Chief overturned 2500 votes against Frog with his day vote. Yeah.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/5/2008 9:48:00 PM | message detail

That one was all Ryu. Fell off the map.

Yep. Check out the number of votes both of them got for each update (starting from the 00:10 mark):

Ryu: 414, 425, 348, 345, 308, 343, 258, 290
Zero: 457, 388, 380, 379, 339, 322, 333, 303
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HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/5/2008 9:48:20 PM | message detail

Lopen (#446)
Uhhh... X-Box's day vote was still godly in 2005.

In 2004 Chief overturned 2500 votes against Frog with his day vote. Yeah.

Not like it is today. Not as many people on Gamefaqs were up with Xbox as they are now.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/5/2008 9:49:16 PM | message detail

Yes, and that also makes the Xbox night vote stronger too, does it not? Strength =/= trends.
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Lopen | Posted 10/5/2008 9:49:56 PM | message detail

That just means X-Box's overall strength is higher, not that its trends change.
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