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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 586

_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 4:14:46 PM | message detail
I think Osfan is probably right though. In the eyes of Cnet and CBS... Why fix something thats not broken? To them, they get massive hits, which was the whole point of the contest. Its going up year after year, so its working as intended. Why bother changing the formula if it works for their needs? Its sad, but true =(
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Majin Lou | Posted 10/4/2008 4:14:52 PM | message detail
Oh, nice Tidus cut there.
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hailEC | Posted 10/4/2008 4:16:37 PM | message detail
I sincerely doubt that if Bacon wanted to put the running of the contest into the hands of someone else he'd have to approve it through CBS. It's really not any different than appointing new moderators, their role on the site would just be different. But yes, why would he do this? He wouldn't, he clearly doesn't care that much about it to go through the process of getting someone to run it.

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Guess how many teens | Posted 10/4/2008 4:18:52 PM | message detail
Contests generate more traffic generate more profit. And imo the way it is done now, is just not optimal, if done better(like always contests with two month breaks between them or something and more variation in contests it could generate a lot more profit to gamefaqs imo, so they'd be interested.).

And the idea of gamefaqs-site prizes like ngamer and I said could work very well, there's a lot of possibilities like bigger sigs, avatars, private boards, custom ranks, topics that break the post limit, .... that could be used for this since the boards are so basic.
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ZFS | Posted 10/4/2008 4:19:08 PM | message detail
Whoa. Tidus makin' a match of it.

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Kept you waiting, huh
hailEC | Posted 10/4/2008 4:20:23 PM | message detail
what you say
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/4/2008 4:20:41 PM | message detail
No, he isn't, unfortunately
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 4:22:15 PM | message detail
Contests generate more traffic generate more profit. And imo the way it is done now, is just not optimal, if done better(like always contests with two month breaks between them or something and more variation in contests it could generate a lot more profit to gamefaqs imo, so they'd be interested.).


The contests are bringing in more traffic than ever in their current form, though... setting up good matches or varying tournament types (like we need more non-character/non-game contests anyway) doesn't bring in the voters - L Block does.
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ZFS | Posted 10/4/2008 4:25:47 PM | message detail
hey all i know is it's closer now than it was when i went to bed last night

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Kept you waiting, huh
transience | Posted 10/4/2008 4:26:45 PM | message detail
a contest administrator's never going to happen and the contest isn't broken because a cube is beating an ape with a tie. just accept that this format is stupid and move on, I say.

Tidus should make this interesting.
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Guess how many teens | Posted 10/4/2008 4:28:03 PM | message detail
There will always be massive rallying for some character, just look at starcraft :P.
L Block generates more traffic yeah but even that will get old but I think that a lot of the users(I'm one of them) come here a lot more when it's contest season, no matter what the match is or what characters are doing good.

It's just fun and unique :)(the gamespot and ign contests failed bigtime compared to the gamefaqs ones)
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Lopen | Posted 10/4/2008 4:28:12 PM | message detail
You can't really say that, though. The site is getting more popular every year... and some matches way back in 2003 and stuff have HUGE vote totals.

A good old fashioned Link vs Cloud I think could draw in L-Block esque votals at this point
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Guess how many teens | Posted 10/4/2008 4:35:23 PM | message detail
Gah Tidus decide to comeback or die already >_>
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/4/2008 4:38:57 PM | message detail
I think Osfan is probably right though. In the eyes of Cnet and CBS... Why fix something thats not broken? To them, they get massive hits, which was the whole point of the contest. Its going up year after year, so its working as intended. Why bother changing the formula if it works for their needs? Its sad, but true =(

I really do not believe that CNet and CBS have that big a hand in day-to-day affairs of GameFAQs, that's what they have SBAllen for. They just handle the server traffic, advertising revenue and any major changes to the site as a whole. Oh, and handling the business costs and spending budgets and all that stuff while SBAllen just handles the site and makes sure it's good on a day-to-day basis.

If they have a hand in handling the surge in traffic during the contest, it would be from an advertising point of view. They make money based on click-throughs, not people voting once in an online poll. They likely time their big ads to coincide with the contest, but that's all.
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ZFS | Posted 10/4/2008 4:40:14 PM | message detail
time for the comeback

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Kept you waiting, huh
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/4/2008 4:41:23 PM | message detail
Poor DK, he's suffered more than anyone since Nintendo and Rare's divorce.

No kidding :(
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/4/2008 4:44:46 PM | message detail
Eh, I disagree that Contest Admin is something that's never going to happen. In alot of ways SB has been moving in the right direction since taking over- he gave us more control of the bracket by expanding the nominations to 15, he vastly improved the old nomination form to make the results more accurate, and how he's even put match pics in our hands, allowing us to create them all the way from match 1 to match 63.

Giving us some kind of input in terms of upcoming Contests types or formats or in setting the bracket is a logical next step. Now, to implement some cheating controls is admittedly a step beyond that, but again its something I could see happening if we keep heading in this direction.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2008 4:49:07 PM | message detail
Why wouldn't he be using the cheating controls CJay already had in place? Really, we haven't had any flagrant cheating matches.
_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 5:06:48 PM | message detail

Ngamer64 (#317)
and how he's even put match pics in our hands, allowing us to create them all the way from match 1 to match 63.



You realize this is only because Bacon is lazy and doesn't care to spend time on it himself, yes?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 5:07:26 PM | message detail
You realize this is only because Bacon is lazy and doesn't care to spend time on it himself, yes?

All the more reason to let us help.
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SonicRaptor | Posted 10/4/2008 5:12:20 PM | message detail
You realize this is only because Bacon is lazy and doesn't care to spend time on it himself, yes?

No, it's called giving out tasks so you don't have so much on your plate. The guy has to update the site, handle submissions, use the banhammer and all sorts of other tweaks he has on his to-do-list. That's really his only job is to handle day-to-day operations of GameFAQs.

It's an overloaded schedule that motivated CJayC to sell the site to CNet, I've always had appreciation for any admin that takes a load off their back (not sucking up here, the lesser the workload the more we can see quick tweaks that benefit all of us).

At least he's giving credit to those that choose to submit pictures, even though it seems most are pulling images off of Google Image Search and sending them in. That I'm not a fan of, personally.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 5:20:17 PM | message detail
Yeah, as much as we go BACOOOOON and stuff, the guy isn't lazy. GameFAQs takes a lot of work to keep updated.

Four-packs of fun!

Ike
DK

Marth
Diablo


Arthas
Pikachu

Captain Falcon
Meta Knight


And the winner of each four-pack faces the winner of the other. Note: Assume this is next year, with Diablo 2 and Wrath of the Lich King released.

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Bracket:
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 5:22:11 PM | message detail
And Tidus needs 14 votes an update to wins, so to stand a chance he needs to pick up the pace.

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Bracket:
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hailEC | Posted 10/4/2008 5:27:16 PM | message detail
DK > Diablo
Pika > Punch

Pika > DK (what)

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Biolizard28 | Posted 10/4/2008 5:40:35 PM | message detail
Ike > Diablo
Pikachu > Arthas

Pikachu > Ike
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 5:41:22 PM | message detail
Bio, these aren't four-way matches. It's one on one, so Arthas and Pikachu can't both advance.

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 5:41:54 PM | message detail

Biolizard28 (#325)
Ike > Diablo
Pikachu > Arthas

Pikachu > Ike



http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3259
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 5:42:37 PM | message detail
Ike
DK

Marth
Diablo


Arthas
Pikachu

Captain Falcon
Meta Knight


Ike (I have no faith in DK at all anymore)
Diablo

Pikachu
Meta Knight


Diablo
Pikachu


Pikachu
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KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 5:42:54 PM | message detail
Bio was working under the assumption of that poll - Spy + Diablo, I think.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 10/4/2008 6:13:52 PM | message detail
Bio is an Ike fanboy.

Ike
DK.

Ike would take that one. Like someone else said, I have no faith in DK in any match whatsoever.

Marth
Diablo

After Diablo 3? Diablo, no question.

Arthas
Pikachu

one on one and after WotLK? Arthas, but it would be close.

Captain Falcon
Meta Knight

Falcon.

Ike
Diablo

Diablo. Marth should be stronger then Ike, so it's a no brainer.

Arthas
Captain Falcon

Pikachu is much stronger then Falcon, so Arthas easily.

Diablo
Ike

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/4/2008 6:53:13 PM | message detail

SonicRaptor | Posted 10/4/2008 8:12:20 PM (#318)
You realize this is only because Bacon is lazy and doesn't care to spend time on it himself, yes?

No, it's called giving out tasks so you don't have so much on your plate. The guy has to update the site, handle submissions, use the banhammer and all sorts of other tweaks he has on his to-do-list. That's really his only job is to handle day-to-day operations of GameFAQs.



CNET's own fault. Lack of quality control is NOT a good thing.
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Keno316 | Posted 10/4/2008 7:55:32 PM | message detail
So...Block and Cube seem to be establishing floors around the 30%'s this year?
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vcharon | Posted 10/4/2008 7:56:36 PM | message detail
Block/Cube matches are just too eerily similar. The actual character is right behind the object, and stalled there indefinitely. Something just smells funny about that, but whatever.

This contest is a big joke now anyway. Yes, more whining, but again... whatever.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/4/2008 8:08:49 PM | message detail
Round 1

Division 5- Match 2

Banjo


lol fodder

Captain Olimar

He makes his first appearance since 2002 thanks to Brawl.

Mega Man

Damn you Mega Man 9!

Nero

Devil May Cry 4 character.

Analysis:

This one really reminds me of Ganondorf's fourpack last year. You have an elite character that is going to look monstrous, a weak piece of crap, and 2 slightly less weak pieces of crap that will probably be battling for second.

I'll keep it short and sweet because I'm tired and have to work at 7 am, but I can't see Olimar advancing here. Not only because of Banjo's presense, but by how badly Lucario did, and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl > Pikmen in terms of popularity.

TuRtLe's Prediction: Mega Man 62%, Nero 18%, Captain Olimar 12%, Banjo 8%
TuRtLe's Bracket: Mega Man > Nero
TuRtLe's Vote: Mega Man
charmander6000 | Posted 10/4/2008 8:26:56 PM | message detail
Match XVIII: Banjo vs. Captain Olimar vs. Mega Man vs. Nero

Information:

Name: Banjo
Game/Series From: Banjo-Kazooie series
2007 Results: 4th in round 1

While not Nintendo himself his fans were mostly Nintendo and being stuck against three other Nintendo characters caused him to get SFF hard. Banjo has a 360 game coming out next month though that will be a month too late for this bear.

Name: Captain Olimar
Game/Series From: Pikmin series
2007 Results: Did not enter

We haven’t seen this guy since the 2003 contest where he was probably SFF against Mario. Five years later Pikmin 2 has been released and Olimar is in Brawl. Just considering that he got SFF it’s highly expected that he’ll do better in this match.

Name: Mega Man
Game/Series From: Mega Man series
2007 Results: 1st in round 1, 1st in round 2, 2nd in round 3, 3rd in round 4

The original and before the one representing them all that is Mega Man. X is now in this contest will Mega Man become weaker? Mega Man’s path last year was quite obvious and it was expected of him to make it to round 4. This year he seems to have another obvious path, but will a joke character ruin his party?

Name: Nero
Game/Series From: Devil May Cry 4
2007 Results: Did not enter

As far as I know Nero is the main character of DMC4 and while he won’t be approaching Dante’s level the series is wildly praised on GameFAQs and many people are expecting him to perform well. Is this another case of the board overrating a character?

Analysis:

This is another match where one character stands tall and above his opponents. As for second place it is widely agreed that one character is the favourite though an upset can still very likely happen.

Mega Man should have no problem taking first here. Like I’ve said Mega Man is a step above the other characters. The only question is whether or not X’s appearance in the contest will cause Mega Man to drop. While there are many people who keep track of this contest many visitors still vote and most won’t know whether or not X is in the bracket. For the ones that do I don’t believe that there is that many people who would abandon Mega Man after supporting him for many years once X is in the contest.

Nero is the favourite to come in second. While Devil May Cry 4 isn’t as popular as the original one Nero would only need a fraction of Dante’s 2002 strength to win this match. Of course there is the possibility that we’re overestimating the guy, but Nero needs to fail really hard in order for him to lose.

If Nero was to fail it’d probably be Olimar who will sneak by him. All the way back in 2003 Olimar’s first and only opponent was Mario and he almost became one of the few characters to have fail to break 10% against an opponent. I’m pretty sure that Olimar was SFF pretty hard against Mario though being in the same match with two pseudo-Nintendo characters isn’t the best draw he could have hoped for. Also Brawl hasn’t really been giving the newer characters of the game much of a boost and out of the new characters I would think that Olimar would get one of the weakest boosts due to him not being much of a fan favourite.

I was one of the supporters of getting Banjo into a contest last year and after seeing him fail last year I wonder why he was brought back. It would be funny if Banjo was strong and come in second tomorrow, but with another Nintendo character and Mega Man being in the poll I think that will cause Banjo to come in last.

Mega Man will be in first while Nero will most likely be in second. I can see Olimar keeping up with Nero if the board has been overrating him, but the little guy has a lot of weight holding him back in this match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Mega Man > Nero

charmander6000’s Prediction: Mega Man – 45.73%, Nero – 23.36%, Olimar – 17.64%, Banjo – 12.97%
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 8:40:36 PM | message detail
Division 5: Round 1 - Match 18 – Banjo vs. Captain Olimar vs. Mega Man vs. Nero

Moltar’s Analysis

Banjo
Game/Series Known From: Banjo-Kazooie
2007 Results: 4thPlace in Round 1 vs. Fox, Wario and Capt. Falcon

Banjo’s back? Well that’s just a load of nuts & bolts

Olimar
Game/Series Known From: Pikmin
2007 Results: N/A

Brawl Character #18, it’s been a while since we’ve seen Olimar

Mega Man
Game/Series Known From: Mega Man
2007 Results: 1st Place in Round 1vs. KOS-MOS, Arthas and Diablo
1st Place in Round 2 vs. Yoshi, Knuckles and KOS-MOS
2nd Place in Round 3vs. Samus, Yoshi and Scorpion
3rd Place in Round 4 vs. Cloud, Samus and Ryu

Hey wait a minute, didn’t we already see Mega Man in action?

Nero
Game/Series Known From: Devil May Cry 4
2007 Results: N/A

Just a white-haired Dante mixed with THROUGH THIS ARM who screams KYRIE for half the game

Well, well, Division 5 starting off good with two debatable matches. I hope things keep up! (Yes I already know the second half is just two obvious matches but shhhh)

Anyway, Mega Man takes first here without breaking a sweat. The real question is who takes second. First up, there’s Banjo, who got rocked in his match last year between three Nintendo characters. So yeah, Banjo, just sit this one out.

The battle for second place is between Olimar and Nero. We last saw Olimar back in…*checks* 2003! Of course it was in a match against Mario, so that doesn’t say much. Still, without a good read on Olimar, and with BRAWLFEAR behind him, he has a good shot at second.

Then there’s Nero, star of Devil May Cry 4 which came out earlier this year. It was released for both the PS3 and 360, and sold well on both platforms. We don’t really know how well it was received on GameFAQs poll-wise, but Nero doesn’t have to be that strong to take second here anyway.

So with Mega Man dominating the Nintendo vote, as well as Banjo taking some too, Olimar isn’t looking good for Round 2. He would either have to snatch up everything else, or Nero is going to have to be extremely weak.

*looks at match pic*

oh hey didn’t know dante was showing up for this fight

Moltar’s Bracket Says: Mega Man > Nero

Moltar’s Prediction is: Mega Man: 51% - Nero: 22% - Olimar: 16% - Banjo: 11%



Heroic Mario’s Analysis

Time for an easy match.

Mega Man has first locked up here, and Nero shouldn't have any problems coming in second. I've never had to think much about this one since I saw the bracket -- it's three Nintendo characters and then a Dante proxy. Sure, Nero isn't going to be anywhere close to Dante's strength, but he should be well above the Olimars and Banjos of the world, especially when there's a much stronger character appealing to that fanbase also in the poll.

In Nero's corner, he's got main character status in the highest selling DMC game yet, DMC4. He's on both the PS3 and 360, which this site seems to be leaning more and more, and it was well received, particularly his new game mechanic. I think he'll be clearly above Vergil, but not up to Dante's level, somewhere in between sounds good for him, which is all he needs to beat fodder.

Olimar has Brawl, which should help him take third here over Banjo, but that's about all he can hope for. Mega Man is going to suck up all of that Nintendo vote, leaving Olimar and Banjo left to fight for scraps. Then split that vote between those two and they're not going to look so hot here. Nero should cruise past these guys pretty easy.

Prediction: Mega Man - 52% ; Nero - 23% ; Olimar - 14% ; Banjo - 11%
Bracket: Mega Man > Nero
Vote: Nero
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 8:40:57 PM | message detail
Yoblazer’s Analysis

Sorry, everyone, but I've gotta do a super speedy one today. Mega Man is a Noble 9er. Two of his opponents are known fodder, and both will almost certainly be hampered by a fanbase split with him on top of that (these are Banjo and Captain Olimar). The fourth guy, Nero, is brand new. We're not quite sure how he'll do, but he did star in a multiplatform million-seller (Devil May Cry 4), and he has an awesome picture in which he looks just like Dante. That alone should be more than enough, because Olimar and Banjo are just that pathetic.

Summary: Mega Man crushes everyone and nabs about the half the votes. Nero cruises into an easy second place finish. Captain Olimar and Banjo fight it out for scraps.

Banjo - 11%
Captain Olimar - 15%
Mega Man - 51%
Nero - 23%



Lopen’s Analysis

Okay, now some might say this match is debatable. I've gotta say no. First of all, let's go back... way back, to 2003. *gasp, I know, right? 2003 in serious analysis? You damn right. The key here to look at is Super Mario kickin the ass of Olimar with around 90% of the vote. Now, you say that's a SFF situation against MARIO of all people But look who's here with him this time... Mega Man, master of blasting faces off of Nintendo fodder... not quite to the degree of Mario, but enough to make him look like quite sufficiently like a joke.

Now, you're sayin... "BUT LOPEN, BRAWLFEAR!" Afraid not. Look at Lucario, and how he flopped, and Diddy, how he flopped. Now think to yourself... what do Lucario and Olimar have in common? That's right. No one outside of some crazy people on B8 gives a crap about either one in Brawl. A Brawl appearance alone won't get you fans... and I'd say Olimar is even less popular in Brawl. And, really, some people give a crap about Diddy and he flopped big time too.

Nero might be weak... I figure he'll probably be around Vergil's level, though. He was playable in DMC4... and I mean, he's no Dante, but I'm sure he probably has some fans. Vergil would kick the crap out of Olimar... hell, half of Vergil would kick the crap out of Olimar. Nero should have no problem winning this, considering I don't even remember who the fourth competitor is. (In fact, I'm so confident Olimar is going to look like a joke here I'm putting this mystery competitor over him)

Lopen's prediction:
Mega Man – 56.18%
Nero – 22.92%
Mystery Trash – 11.34%
Olimar – 9.56%



Transience’s Analysis

I am writing this while watching board 8 tear itself apart over a cube beating an ape with a tie. it's kinda put the contest into perspective for me, in a "why the hell do I bother?" way, and makes me wonder why I even write these things. but that's cool, I'll get over it in a few days. we're just in for six weeks of whining and a completely illegitimate contest, that's all. get ready for some truly fluky results and a whole lot more whining. (and I'm even gonna vote for the Cube. woo Portal!)

tonight's match is kinda cool. we get to see Mega Man, the one we actually know how to gauge, after his biggest new release since these contests began. Mega Man 9 hasn't really shaken any ground or changed people's opinion on the series at all, but it might get more people to vote for him that had forgotten about him after all these years. I don't think it means a whole ton though. we're talking about a game that the fanbase will love and regular people will be very "meh" towards. MM9 is not a game-changer as far as contest strength goes, but it might keep him above Sonic and Crono for another year.

as for the fodder-fest underneath him, we've got Nintendo, Nintendo-lite and a Capcom guy. Mega Man may be Capcom, but his fanbase will overlap a lot more with Nintendo than with Devil May Cry. as such, Olimar will probably be gimped a bit and Banjo's really got no chance.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 8:41:42 PM | message detail
Nero, though... I mean, he looks like Dante, but Dante he ain't. Nero spends all of DMC4 showing how inferior he is to Dante. he's just not as cool, not even close, and being a ripoff design probably makes him even less likable. I don't know how strong this guy's gonna be. I think I'd take Vergil over him, and heads-up I might go for Olimar here. given that Mega Man's in the poll, though, and the recent shift to Xbox thanks to the Wii sucking, not to mention Brawl newcomers looking awful left and right, I've gotta go with this Dante proxy over the badass in the helmet.

cube vs. ape with tie
sky is falling, run like hell
gives me a headache

transience's apathetic prediction: Mega Man with 52.22%, Nero with 22.21%, Olimar with 15.21%, Banjo with 10.46%



Ngamer’s Analysis

Hey hey, perfect picks two days in a row now! If only my bracket could say the same... But yeah, today is a perfect example of why I don't mind joke characters in the first round. Even accounting for Tails hurting him and Tidus probably have the advantage of a stronger fanbase less likely to be joke-leached, DK still majorly disappointed in this one, and I have no problem with punishing him by not allowing him into another match. The trouble is that the presence of a strong, legit character in MM will only make it easier for the Cube to again outlast Tidus next round, and suddenly the joke has outworn its welcome.

The one hope for the non-jokes is that Nero pulls off something pretty incredible here tonight to make himself a favorite over the Cube. But considering he'd need more or less a Dante-like performance to do so, it's not looking too likely! Let's see what we're up against in this one:


Last Known Values
Mega Man - 39.02% (2007)
Nero - new
Olimar - 8.84% (2003)
Banjo - 11.13% (2007)

Like I said in the MMX match writeup, Mega Man was as solid as a Rock(man) all the way through the '07 bracket, doing pretty much what we expected of him every time and even impressing us once by giving Samus more than she bargained for in the sprite round. I see no reason for that to change here in 2008, especially not with this match taking place at the height of MM9's popularity (it hit the 360 three days ago and is now available worldwide for all three consoles... and the sales figures have been extremely impressive, at least in North America). Had MMX collapsed I might be worried, but nay, he did well for himself and so I think MM and Zero are safe from a series-wide Sonic Team-style tumble for at least one more year. The only point of concern is that with Mega Man acting increasingly Nintendo in recent times, Olimar and Banjo might hold him back a little and allow Nero a better showing than otherwise, but honestly I can't see that being much of a factor considering neither of those characters have any NES/SNES presence.

Nero's something of a wildcard, except... not REALLY. We can probably count on him to perform somewhere in the general 16.71% range that Vergil set up last season. I'd probably have set his ceiling a little bit lower before I saw the match pic that was chosen for tomorrow- that's basically the perfect picture for Nero, as he looks almost identical to Dante and gets to hide his ridiculous oversized demon-grabber arm. Between standing out so well in the picture and being the lone non-Nintendo option, I'd be very surprised if he allowed either of his opponents to seriously contend for the 2nd place position.
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 8:42:16 PM | message detail
As for Banjo, should we perhaps revise our thoughts on his chances after seeing what happened a few days back? Fox crushed his fourpack in '07, making the rest of that group look somewhere in the range of pretty bad to extremely bad fodder, and yet Captain Falcon wowed us all by putting on a great show against Alucard, proving that Fox's SFF was even more deadly than we expected. But, uh, nay. Banjo's GOT to be worth more than the 11% he earned, sure, but I doubt MM's presence does him any favors in this one, and it's going to take a major flop from Olimar for him to stay out of last place tonight.

That leaves only the good Capn't to consider. Could he be the one to shock us just like that other Captain did a few days back? Again, sorry, but I don't see it happening. Sure Olimar was one of the guys who should have received the most notable Brawl boosts, but just look where he was starting BEFORE that boost. If you replaced MM and Banjo with say Auron and Crash this might be the kind of thing where I'd take a flier on the upset of Nero, but as stands there's just too much working against him in this grouping, and I can't see the little guy having the kind of strength needed to swim upstream against odds like these for very long.

Sooooo if MM is strong and Nero is meh and Olimar is ugh and Banjo is ewwww, then...

Mega Man - 51.81%
Nero - 19.44%
Captain Olimar - 16.09%
Banjo - 12.66%

Oh man, no matter how I tweak this one it still keeps coming out looking just awful based on my gut reaction. All of a sudden I've lost alot of confidence in this pick.

Ngamer Says: Mega Man > Nero



Guest’s Analysis - gamer88coool

Ironically, I have not played any of their games. It shouldn’t matter though, as this match is pretty straightforward. Or is it?

Banjo
Personally, I don’t think Banjo had a fair chance, being pitted against all Nintendo characters last year. Now that’s he is with a more spread-out set of battlers, he can show his inexcusable utter atrocity. This bear’s runnin scared.

Olimar
Ah, the big-nosed, astronaut-gardener we all know and love. Being included in brawl will help here, (since it’s the reason he’s here) but will he be strong enough? He may share a little SFF with Banjo, but that shouldn’t be a large variable. Of course, everyone will think he’s too weak to take any placing here, but I’m a bit skeptical about this underestimation. And besides, brawl characters DON’T LOSE (given they’re not opposed by other brawl/tetris characters).

Mega Man
The blue bomber is an easy lock for this match. He’s obviously stronger than the competition, but by how much? I’m saying he won’t be enough to rocket above the 50% margin. Perhaps not even 40%.

Nero
This guy’s got a good chance here, as he’s the only “non-kiddy” character. However, being a new face could hurt him some, but I doubt it will be enough to push him down to third.

So here’s the pick:
Mega Man 43%
Nero 25%
Olimar 23%
Banjo 9%

Mega Man starts at over 50% and decreases throughout the day.
Nero begins strong, weakens mid-day, then takes the silver at night.
Olimar starts a little under Nero, closes most of the gap during the day, then falls back in the evening.
Banjo just lays low all day catchin some rays.

Prediction Pick: Mega Man>Nero
Bracket Pick: Mega Man>Olimar (lol yay4upsets)



Crew Consensus: Mega Man > Nero, easy
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 8:49:43 PM | message detail
Why does even a boring match that's almost a lock at this point require five posts to fit the Analysis Crew in it? I mean come on guys. >_>

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 8:50:47 PM | message detail
I am shocked and disgusted by the lack of Banjo support.

He's clearly going to get second.

Clearly.

my bracket wouldn't lie to me
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 10/4/2008 8:52:00 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 11:50:47 PM (#341)
I am shocked and disgusted by the lack of Banjo support.

He's clearly going to get second.

Clearly.

my bracket wouldn't lie to me



Only if his picture is of an actual banjo. Then the joke votes would pile in.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 8:55:40 PM | message detail

KamikazePotato (#340)
Why does even a boring match that's almost a lock at this point require five posts to fit the Analysis Crew in it? I mean come on guys. >_>



that was 4 posts

and that's still pretty short for us i mean it's write-ups for 7 people
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Banjo/Olimar/MM/Nero - Bracket: MM > Nero - Vote: Olimar (51/68)
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 8:57:35 PM | message detail
Psh here's all the writeup you need

lol Pikmin

lol Ninty SFF

lol BrawlFEAR

Dante proxy

MM: a lot of %s
Nero: not as many %s
Olimar: even less %s
Banjo: even less but should get more %s

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charmander6000 | Posted 10/4/2008 8:58:00 PM | message detail
I'l be cheering for Banjo if it makes you feel better.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 47/64 Today's Match: Donkey Kong > Tidus
Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 8:59:04 PM | message detail
well kp i guess we know why you aren't on the crew then!

(you have to stretch out those obvious statements that's the key in looking smart)
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Banjo/Olimar/MM/Nero - Bracket: MM > Nero - Vote: Olimar (51/68)
charmander6000 | Posted 10/4/2008 8:59:26 PM | message detail
That's not how analysis works, even mine would've broken the posting limit if I didn't remove my sig and a sentance from the introduction.
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Character Battle 2008: Points 47/64 Today's Match: Donkey Kong > Tidus
KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 9:00:04 PM | message detail
*takes down notes*

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Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 9:00:13 PM | message detail
Banjo 8.33%

1
Captain Olimar 50%

6
Mega Man 25%

3
Nero 16.67%

2
TOTAL VOTES 12

hmmm
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Banjo/Olimar/MM/Nero - Bracket: MM > Nero - Vote: Olimar (51/68)
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 9:00:22 PM | message detail
Banjo 9.09%

1
Captain Olimar 45.45%

5
Mega Man 27.27%

3
Nero 18.18%

2
TOTAL VOTES 11

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