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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 586

KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 1:00:10 PM | message detail
Nice pick, Harrich. TRE is already a human calculator and a B8er at the same time.

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TheCatWhoSwims | Posted 10/4/2008 1:02:27 PM | message detail
I would trust TRE with my children. I might therefore let him create the bracket. Let me sleep on it.
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linkhatesganon | Posted 10/4/2008 1:12:33 PM | message detail
Pfffft what a fluke even a 10-years-old would notice that
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 1:35:43 PM | message detail
Ha, now Tidus is stalling. Man, make a move!
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2008 1:36:37 PM | message detail
Yes, I'd be quite willing to forego the prizes- considering how much time I spend following this contest, it has to be worth a lot more than $500 to me.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 53/64 --- T-127 (70 way)
Bracket: Tidus > DK --- Vote: Tidus
Guess how many teens | Posted 10/4/2008 1:36:45 PM | message detail
If Tidus can still win this is one of the best matches ever.But I don't see him cutting 500 again.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2008 1:38:20 PM | message detail
Traditionally New Square's best time on weekends/summer is the second night vote, I believe. That would also make sense here, as Tidus crushed Cube with the first night vote, and fell off with the day vote.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 53/64 --- T-127 (70 way)
Bracket: Tidus > DK --- Vote: Tidus
LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 1:39:52 PM | message detail
Tidus didn't start falling off until about an hour and a half ago. He might do better come nightfall, but I expect the Cube will, too.
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red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2008 1:42:55 PM | message detail
Tidus did markedly better with the true night (3 AM to 8 AM) than he did in the morning, even if Cube didn't really stall him till around noon. Although the character that improves as the day wears on is usually the one who wins the second night vote.....there's still hope for Tidus though.
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Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 53/64 --- T-127 (70 way)
Bracket: Tidus > DK --- Vote: Tidus
transience | Posted 10/4/2008 2:06:30 PM | message detail
Alucard last year saw a shift go his way around 6:30-ish. that was also on a weekend. I get the feeling Cube will stall this out until the night vote comes, and then we'll be in for something interesting.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2008 2:06:49 PM | message detail
...so, if WCC can beat Tidus for first place, why can't Sandbag beat Magus for second place now?
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transience | Posted 10/4/2008 2:07:44 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3260&type=2&seconds=60&max=0

3pm: aww yeah
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 2:13:26 PM | message detail
Actually, I was thinking this match (and L-Block's) was better news for Magus than not because though L-Block won and probably the Cube will, too, it's not going to be by a lot.
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transience | Posted 10/4/2008 2:14:42 PM | message detail
that's slanted logic, I think. both got 30%+. Magus is gonna have a hell of a time getting to 25, let alone 30.

gotta hope the Bag flops, I think.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 2:16:45 PM | message detail
Well, yeah, the fact that Ryu and Tidus are fighting for first and not second helps them out here, I suppose. Magus won't have that advantage.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/4/2008 2:19:42 PM | message detail
I'd happily give up prizes to help help put contests together. Anything beats this 4-way crap.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2008 2:23:08 PM | message detail
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2008 2:24:30 PM | message detail
The only way Sandbag flops is if it's SFF'd by Sonic or treated legitimately like Master Hand instead of a joke like L or WCC. Being too new or not wide-spread enough is no longer an issue for Sandbag to place second since WCC is winning today, and Sandbag has the added advantage of SSBM/B being far more liked/popular games here than Portal or Tetris (though Tetris obviously smokes it in play-rate here).

Also, we've seen The Dog get 14% despite L-Block and Mudkip(z) broke 30% against MMX, so Sandbag looks great if he's taken more as a joke than a character. Magus got 30% against Phoenix/Bomberman/Crash and Sonic/Sandbag alone should be stronger than those three combined. It'll be fun to watch.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 2:32:53 PM | message detail
HaRR, your points embolden me with confidence!

Anyway, I've heard Portal takes about four hours to complete. If that's so, I think I've spent more time beating up Sandbag in Brawl's online waiting room.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/4/2008 2:34:51 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/4/2008 5:19:42 PM | message detail
I'd happily give up prizes to help help put contests together. Anything beats this 4-way crap.


This.
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HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2008 2:36:27 PM | message detail
If you've spent four or more hours beating up on Sandbag online (not to mention any other time spent with Sandbag in matches or home-run derbies!), you've spent more time than 90% of Portal players have spent with WCC period.

Personally, it took me five hours to beat Portal and my brother first beat it in six hours...though he now takes maybe an hour to destroy it.
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Guess how many teens | Posted 10/4/2008 2:37:50 PM | message detail
It would be cooler if the prices would be something that can be available for everyone on gamefaqs, not just americans
like special privileges on gamefaqs or something like that :).
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Zenithian Legend | Posted 10/4/2008 2:40:31 PM | message detail
Wow Tidus, can't believe that Monkey is so weak these days. Poor DK, he's suffered more than anyone since Nintendo and Rare's divorce.
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smitelf | Posted 10/4/2008 2:41:25 PM | message detail
Slightly off-topic, does anyone remember what King Morgoth's conditional probability model is?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 2:42:27 PM | message detail
So this is what the top Oracle people think about...
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Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/4/2008 2:48:05 PM | message detail
Oh yeah TAILS CUT!
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greatone10 | Posted 10/4/2008 2:49:36 PM | message detail
Really, I think we should just stick 32 of these inanimate objects into a Spring contest and then never hear from any of them (except maybe L-Block) again. It's not so much that I am mad that they are beating my favorite characters (because they have yet to beat anyone I like), but the joke is getting really old really fast. That, and we can rally the Mushroom from the Mario series to the top.
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Decon082 | Posted 10/4/2008 2:57:02 PM | message detail
The Death of My bracket has been confirmed.

I'm better than 3% of everybody, at least.
Lopen | Posted 10/4/2008 3:25:17 PM | message detail
Man if this ends with less than a 150 vote victory for the cube I'm going to be pretty annoyed. Tidus is starting to turn votes again.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 10/4/2008 3:26:47 PM | message detail

ffmasterjose (#270)
UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/4/2008 5:19:42 PM | message detail
I'd happily give up prizes to help help put contests together. Anything beats this 4-way crap.


This.



So who wants to pose this suggestion to Allen? >_>

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LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 3:27:37 PM | message detail
Stop teasing me with comeback attempts, Tidus!
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Ngamer64 | Posted 10/4/2008 3:40:54 PM | message detail
smite, check your gmail.

We've been through this many times, but yes, I would be be willing to do away with the cash prizes in order to get some outside input on Contest and bracket creation. Whether that was in the form of SB hiring on a Contest Administrator such as myself or TRE, or whether it would just be a small select committee of people who know what they're talking about to be able to give SB advice or help him stop cheating, either would be a major improvement.

I think the way to approach this with SB would be to suggest that instead of doing away with prizes altogether, they could be replaced with some kind of within-GameFAQs reward. The private boards he gave away a few months back are a good example of something to suggest as an alternative.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 3:41:56 PM | message detail
Why do we have to do away with prizes at all? I don't see why you can't have both someone advising him and prizes..
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smitelf | Posted 10/4/2008 3:48:19 PM | message detail
awesome ngamer, thanks
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 3:49:06 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 (#283)
Why do we have to do away with prizes at all? I don't see why you can't have both someone advising him and prizes..



Not saying Ngamer would do this, but an adviser could be helping out friends to well on the bracket by giving them easy to pick matches and stuff, or even take votes for "Cheating" to help their friends.

Not that any of this matters, Its up to C-net, not Bacon. Bacon would need to go through C-net approval to do any major changes to the site or give admin to new people.
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Osfan | Posted 10/4/2008 3:49:52 PM | message detail
Ok so am I the only one that looks at the moment in question for WCC and am thinking his stat graph is flipping us all off. I mean look at it, thats exactly what it looks like!

On another note I don't think words can describe the disappointment that will ensue from us loyal Tidus fans if this result is under 150 vote differential. I mean I think a small riot should result from such a tragic fall for Tidus first his "story" in general and now this... for shame...
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 3:53:26 PM | message detail
Not that any of this matters, Its up to C-net, not Bacon. Bacon would need to go through C-net approval to do any major changes to the site or give admin to new people.

Does CNet really meddle in the affairs of the site that much?
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 3:58:12 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 (#287)
Not that any of this matters, Its up to C-net, not Bacon. Bacon would need to go through C-net approval to do any major changes to the site or give admin to new people.

Does CNet really meddle in the affairs of the site that much?



C-net owns the site, Bacon is only the admin who works day to day to make sure everything on the site goes smoothly. But everyone has a boss, and C-Net is his boss, and for major things, he'd have to go through them. He can do minor things on his own, like My Games stuff was probably up to him, but giving admin powers to someone else (He is only admin status himself, so he can't give someone else his own ranking) or major changes (like layout) would have to be approved by C-Net.
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Gr8CyberMonkey | Posted 10/4/2008 3:58:27 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 6:53:26 PM (#287)
Does CNet really meddle in the affairs of the site that much?



I think they would only get involved if the adviser was a paid position, rather than a volunteer.
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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 3:59:47 PM | message detail

Gr8CyberMonkey (#289)

MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 6:53:26 PM (#287)
Does CNet really meddle in the affairs of the site that much?



I think they would only get involved if the adviser was a paid position, rather than a volunteer.



Going by what people are saying though, is a contest admin who would be able to run the contest and stuff, and I'd assume that would be a paid position because it has admin powers. Moderators and such are volunteer, but admin of any type is serious power they wouldn't just give to a volunteer.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 4:00:16 PM | message detail
C-net owns the site, Bacon is only the admin who works day to day to make sure everything on the site goes smoothly. But everyone has a boss, and C-Net is his boss, and for major things, he'd have to go through them. He can do minor things on his own, like My Games stuff was probably up to him, but giving admin powers to someone else (He is only admin status himself, so he can't give someone else his own ranking) or major changes (like layout) would have to be approved by C-Net.


Eh, I didn't realize we were looking at this as some sort of admin position. I figured it was just a couple guys volunteering to help make the contest better... no payment or anything like that, which I figured would be an Allen decision.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 4:01:06 PM | message detail
Does stuff have to go through CBS now too, since they bought CNET or they bought the site or they bought something that makes them own us?
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/4/2008 4:01:57 PM | message detail
Actually, ultimately the decision would be up to CBS if we want to get knitty-gritty.

Just sayin'

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 4:02:02 PM | message detail

MoogleKupo141 (#291)
C-net owns the site, Bacon is only the admin who works day to day to make sure everything on the site goes smoothly. But everyone has a boss, and C-Net is his boss, and for major things, he'd have to go through them. He can do minor things on his own, like My Games stuff was probably up to him, but giving admin powers to someone else (He is only admin status himself, so he can't give someone else his own ranking) or major changes (like layout) would have to be approved by C-Net.


Eh, I didn't realize we were looking at this as some sort of admin position. I figured it was just a couple guys volunteering to help make the contest better... no payment or anything like that, which I figured would be an Allen decision.



Then I don't really understand where you are coming from. An "Advisor" who is a regular member wouldn't do crap. I don't think Bacon even pays attention to the site enough to post matches, Its probably an audomated thing. If you were to have someone only to look after contests, it would need to be a contest admin, since an adviser would do nothing we don't have now.
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hailEC | Posted 10/4/2008 4:04:19 PM | message detail
You can have a contest "administrator" who's still not an administrator on this site like Bacon is. Not like it really matters though, because it will never happen.

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_Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 4:06:18 PM | message detail

hailEC (#295)
You can have a contest "administrator" who's still not an administrator on this site like Bacon is. Not like it really matters though, because it will never happen.



Well yeah, but all people in the past who have had any kind of admin power on Gamefaqs have been paid positions. Even data admins and such. Gamefaqs is a huge site with lots of revenue coming in, its not just some fan site where they can get everyoen to work for free. You gotta go through interviews and such to find the right applicant, background checks, etc all that stuff before giving any kind of admin powers. Its not just as simple as "Hey that guy is one of the main contest gurus, lets give him admin powers to run the contest."
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Osfan | Posted 10/4/2008 4:09:28 PM | message detail
And this is the problem I mean really is there anything wrong with today's results? I mean yes its a joke character and yes that time in question is really obvious, but what is gonna make CBS or CNET say "We need a Contest Admin to make these contests credible again!" They don't care about this contest just like SB doesn't care and its obvious by us having to make all the pictures and the lack of reviewing any match with outrageous vote spikes. It sucks because this was obviously something that meant a lot to Ceej but SB and CNET both don't seem to care about having a credible contest as much as they care about higher site traffic. Votals go up every year so why interfere this is a success to them...

Granted I just as much as the next guy want a credible contest again with all the jokes aside, where the new characters surprise us each year not the same jokes over and over again, but coming from a business standpoint what is wrong with what happened today. My point is with these jokes winning we are only proving our own ignorance. CNET could care less , SB could care less, and a Gamefaqs regular will still win the prize. We just make ourselves look stupid by having these joke characters look like Icons in these polls...
Majin Lou | Posted 10/4/2008 4:10:25 PM | message detail
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hailEC | Posted 10/4/2008 4:12:08 PM | message detail
Then you can call the person who would be in charge a "Contest Coordinator" and let them deal with everything contest related. You don't have to give them access to all of the site's features and inner-workings, just so far as to be able to get their hands on nominations, creating the bracket, and some sort of ability to look check for vote stuffing.

You're getting tied over the namesake that's being given here, and it really doesn't matter.

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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 4:12:13 PM | message detail
Then I don't really understand where you are coming from. An "Advisor" who is a regular member wouldn't do crap. I don't think Bacon even pays attention to the site enough to post matches, Its probably an audomated thing. If you were to have someone only to look after contests, it would need to be a contest admin, since an adviser would do nothing we don't have now.

An actual admin as like a paid position made no sense to me, so I figured we must not be talking about that. The contest isn't really a significant enough component of the site to warrant paying someone separate to run it.
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