GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 586
| Lopen | Posted 10/4/2008 12:17:36 PM | message detail |
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SFF matches have lower votals. Also, matches with a ton of utter crap
have lower votals, which is why Crono and Samus did so poorly. Anyway, you don't need high votal drawing power to be strong. But all things considered it's definitely something you want more than something you don't. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:18:02 PM | message detail |
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Marth has more general appeal than Ness, though. GameFAQs loves their anime-esque sword wielders. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Osfan | Posted 10/4/2008 12:18:06 PM | message detail |
| Lol I can't believe we are still acting surprised when a joke character finds a 150+ vote post out of absolutely thin air. I mean look at the graph look at the votals, there is really no point obviously a joke character is going to win any close match by illegitimate terms. Why be surprised anymore I mean if people are willing to vote for a joke to ruin a contest why would they not be willing to stuff for a joke to ruin a good match? I say congrats to Tidus you put up a better fight then most would be able to under less then ideal circumstances he deserves his moment in the spotlight... |
| RockMFR 5 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:24:44 PM | message detail |
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That 3:09 update was probably one of the strangest of the whole contest. --- Be a good little washing machine, now... o_0 The Ohio State University: We are so much better than m*ch!g@n. |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:25:00 PM | message detail |
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picking up the pace and gaining again right around ASV time, as if it
were a weekday. And now that it's gone back down to normal levels, Tidus STILL can't do anything! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| hellfire104 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:25:35 PM | message detail |
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That's fine, but SFF didn't cause all those vote counts to be lower. Link's match didn't have SFF. I only posted that because I was tired of Hogger being an ***. Altair's has the highest vote count in the contest so far. So when you say Altair = 61,000 > Zach = 60,000. I say its because of total vote difference. Simple as that. --- Contest Point Total: 50 Rank: 98%tile, Tied for 890 This Pick: Tidus > Donkey Kong |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:26:16 PM | message detail |
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Oh man, I forgot it was a weekday and that there was no ASV for Tidus to look forward to. Yeah, Cube has this. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/4/2008 12:26:25 PM | message detail |
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What do you mean illegitimate? Cube is displaying normal trends... he's
not getting random spikes to gain a ton of votes out of nowhere. He
built a solid lead on Tidus, Tidus then started erasing that lead down
to the 400's, where once again the tides started turning, and Cube put
on a 3 hour long stall fest, and now he's rebuilding his lead again. It's a trend, not vote stuffing. --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:27:24 PM | message detail |
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Cube increased his lead by 100 votes in one update. Not saying it's stuffing, but how is that a normal trend? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:28:08 PM | message detail |
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he's not getting random spikes to gain a ton of votes out of nowhere Cube got a 280 vote update out of nowhere, right after a 250 vote update. It hasn't gotten updates that large since the first 90 minutes of the match. Not that it matters. It went back to normal after that, and it's still gaining. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Lopen | Posted 10/4/2008 12:28:10 PM | message detail |
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Look at the updates fool. Spiking by 50 votes and then 100 votes while
everyone else remains constant and then falling back down to normal is
no trend. --- Master Chief's quest to defeat Cloud: Round 1 - Raiden/Kain/Other Dude. Target: 48%. GAME FUEL. Believe |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/4/2008 12:30:06 PM | message detail |
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...and he gained 70 the update before, it didn't exactly just happen
out of nowhere. Clearly this time period is benefitting Cube over Tidus
for some reason. It's not "Tidus cut, tidus cut, tidus cut, L SPIKE!,
tidus cut, tidus cut." That's what stuffing looks like. Right now he's
just consistently padding his lead, with 3-4 updates that were better
than the rest all clustered together. --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| DaruniaTheGoron | Posted 10/4/2008 12:32:08 PM | message detail |
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http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/images/poll_graph.php?matchnum=3260&type=1&seconds=60&max=0 Yeah, that was "normal". If Tidus loses by like 100 votes, and SB doesn't take any votes off for that update, that's robbery. But I think WCC has this anyway, so whatever. --- but during the time bands are unknown, they aren't good. the moment they are discovered and well known then they become better. - Humpa |
| Osfan | Posted 10/4/2008 12:32:25 PM | message detail |
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Look at the votals for Cube 200 200 200 200 200 200 300 200 200 200 I
mean come on he just pulled an additional 100 votes because of the ASV
on the weekend? --- Nominate Rydia for this years Character Battle! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:33:17 PM | message detail |
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Last ten updates: Tidus - 201, 198, 198, 214, 189, 189, 196, 174, 184, 177 Cube - 210, 209, 204, 255, 285, 214, 202, 197, 184 Now you can call that legit if you want to, but I ain't subscribin' to that theory. Maybe rallying or something, but it's hard to deny those are some weird spikes. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:34:23 PM | message detail |
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Oh, I missed a 212 update for the Cube after that first 209. Whoops. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 12:35:06 PM | message detail |
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And now Tidus and Cube are about even last couple updates, after those 70 vote cuts. Trends my ass. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 12:36:29 PM | message detail |
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Someone cheated. The odds Bacon will respond in any way is about as likely as Donkey Kong storming back to win. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 12:36:42 PM | message detail |
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The whole contest. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:37:13 PM | message detail |
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It just occurred to me that the two most impressive Nintendo character
so far (well, not counting Falcon) are the ones that didn't advance.
Just the way the bracket crumbles. How is Tidus second night vote? I know it's the weekend, but there has some to be some trend change. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| red sox 777 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:37:26 PM | message detail |
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Looks very suspicious to me. --- Evvivan: Character Battle VII --- Score: 53/64 --- T-127 (70 way) Bracket: Tidus > DK --- Vote: Tidus |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/4/2008 12:37:29 PM | message detail |
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yeah the stuffers all came in, zerg rushed one update and decided to call it a day and go home. --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 12:37:32 PM | message detail |
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For the next five years. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:38:37 PM | message detail |
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Last year, the before school and during school vote were Tidus's best
time. He gets a little better with the second night vote, but not a lot. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:39:12 PM | message detail |
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I demand that we assign certain people to run the contests from now on,
since Bacon has clearly proven that he doesn't care about cheating,
joke characters, etc. I'd be all for someone like, say, Ngamer running
this from now on. At least he knows what the **** we want in a contest. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:39:17 PM | message detail |
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A stuffer doesn't have to be stuffing every update. Kefka/Vercetti was the same way, really. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:40:13 PM | message detail |
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Also, LOL DK. Losing updates to Tails is bad news! --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 12:41:14 PM | message detail |
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I demand that we assign certain people to run the contests from now
on, since Bacon has clearly proven that he doesn't care about cheating,
joke characters, etc. I'd be all for someone like, say, Ngamer running
this from now on. At least he knows what the **** we want in a contest. We've tossed the idea around for a few years. Apparently, only a CNet employee can have any role in the contest (due to the fabulous cash prizes involves, I believe). --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 12:41:17 PM | message detail |
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Plus it can be boring for someone to stuff all day. He stuffs for 10
minutes and gets 170 votes for Cube, and that can be about what
clinches it for Cube. And believe me, I was a stuffer back in 2004
(when my original account got axed), and stuffing isn't something you'd
want to be doing all day. Its freaking boring. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:43:05 PM | message detail |
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Then Bacon had better get on the ****ing ball. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/4/2008 12:43:14 PM | message detail |
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A stuffer doesn't have to be stuffing every update. Kefka/Vercetti was the same way, really. Really? Kefka/Vercetti was one grossly abnormal update among a sea of normal? It's not like Cube has been pulling off weird updates and spikes on a consistent basis. Whatever, if you want to think it's vote stuffing go for it, and I won't. It really doesn't matter what you want to tell yourself to justify what's happening. --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/4/2008 12:45:01 PM | message detail |
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Question: Would you guys be excited and/or willing to have the
stats topic play some role in running the contest if it meant
eliminating the prizes? --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITZ Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:45:12 PM | message detail |
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I've already said that it doesn't really matter if the Cube was
stuffing or not, and I even gave it the benefit of the doubt of
potential rallying. I'm just saying Vercetti/Kefka was one long stallfest, with Kefka making an occasional spike to keep Vercetti at bay. This is just an isolated form of it. A stuffer may only need one or two updates of stuffing to push things out of reach, and that may be enough here. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:45:53 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I enjoy the contest more than I would enjoy the prizes if I won them. Stats topic being involved would be pretty cool. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| LeonhartFour | Posted 10/4/2008 12:46:14 PM | message detail |
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Answer: Yes. I don't really care about the prizes. I doubt it'd seriously impact the popularity of the contest either. --- Squall Leonhart's Path to the CBVII Championship Round 1: CATS, Nathan Drake, Yoshi |
| GameZACKS | Posted 10/4/2008 12:46:25 PM | message detail |
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| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:46:49 PM | message detail |
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PartOfYourWorld (#232) Question: Would you guys be excited and/or willing to have the stats topic play some role in running the contest if it meant eliminating the prizes? Having prizes is always nice, but seeing the direction the contest is going in, I'd much rather have some good, clean fun than fight for money. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:46:50 PM | message detail |
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Question: Would you guys be excited and/or willing to have the stats
topic play some role in running the contest if it meant eliminating the
prizes? no I must have the delusional hope that I will win some sort of prize. --- For your health. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Cyclo/pokewhat.jpg This is my Chocomander, Steve! |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:48:15 PM | message detail |
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Let me put it this way: if someone had offered me an amount of money
equal to winning the contest or Ike advancing yesterday (preferably at
Pikachu's expense), I would've picked Ike in a heartbeat. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:49:19 PM | message detail |
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Besides, it may mean less brackets being entered, but people will vote regardless. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| transience | Posted 10/4/2008 12:50:04 PM | message detail |
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cuuuuuuuube~ hahaha, that one update is so BS. I was thinking earlier that watching Tidus come back and then blow it would be pretty fitting. he didn't come back but this is close! --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| hailEC | Posted 10/4/2008 12:50:31 PM | message detail |
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you would rather Ike move on one round further in a meaningless internet poll than be given 500 bucks huh somethings seriously wrong with you --- LONG LIVE GAMEZACKS |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 12:50:58 PM | message detail |
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KamikazePotato (#239) Stuffing is work. 500 dollars for winning the contest. Lets say you stuff for 9 hours of a work day. Thats about what... 45 dollars an hour? Just saying you had the chance to take up that offer :P --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:51:21 PM | message detail |
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500 bucks would be nice, but I don't need it. Ike is probably never going to be in another position to win a match. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/4/2008 12:52:36 PM | message detail |
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Question: Would you guys be excited and/or willing to have the
stats topic play some role in running the contest if it meant
eliminating the prizes? Aren't eligible for prizes anyway so meh. But I'd rather some user interaction, or a different admin responsible or albion responsible just anything instead of Allen in charge. --- Smurf. The cream of Sonic Fanboyism you're like some devious internet fiend- Majin |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/4/2008 12:53:59 PM | message detail |
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__Smurf__ (#245) World of Warcraft Boss Contest GO --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:54:01 PM | message detail |
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Seriously, after this is all over, we need to get a petition going. >_> --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7315/ocelotpartycd1.gif |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/4/2008 12:55:22 PM | message detail |
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Bio, it just won't happens. CNet owns the place, not Bacon. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/4/2008 12:56:57 PM | message detail |
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About Zack/Altair - assuming they each get there, I've got my money on
Zack. Since their first round matches were brought up, here's my take:
Zack got a higher percentage in the poll against Wario despite Cecil
than Altair did in the poll against Lucario with Isaac. Wario did get
more percentage in his poll than Lucario, but I also consider Wario
stronger at this point. Guybrush and Jade are non-factors. He's still strong, although this should at least put to rest any Marth>Ike comments (coughHarrichcough). I doubt I'll defend that anymore after seeing how much Ike came back and seeing DK not impress today. That said, if Marth gets first next round despite Lucario, I may flip-flop on the issue some more I don't know if I buy this as a legit factor. People used it to say Ness would win his fourpack last year (and other similar situations), and it didn't work.. Yeah, it failed for me last year. That said, I still stand by that Ness did a little better than he should have, but because the rest were PS1-stars WHILE Ness was the only Nintendo guy. After last year and seeing what Zidane and Liquid did earlier this round, I'd like to see Ness/Zidane. Question: Would you guys be excited and/or willing to have the stats topic play some role in running the contest if it meant eliminating the prizes? Yes for myself, though I'd hate to cost other people the chance at prizes. Personally, though I've heard all sorts of recommendations, I'd nominate TRE for the job. He's obviously paying attention to the topics, has always known what he's talking about -- even when wrong, believe it or not -- and is already a moderator. If TRE was cool with it, I think that'd be the best super-robot-man SB could pick. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| hellfire104 | Posted 10/4/2008 12:58:15 PM | message detail |
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