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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 586

ffmasterjose | Posted 10/3/2008 9:36:15 PM | message detail
Cube to make it out of his Division confirmed

The death of my bracket, also confirmed

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/
http://thengamer.com/xstats
http://thengamer.com/stats

~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~
http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/

~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~
http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html

~*aprosenf's poll script*~
http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the match pics*~
http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them.

X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process.

rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it.

For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything.
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NP: Tidus > Donkey Kong
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 9:38:23 PM | message detail
Shaped like a cube to function as a paperweight.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 10/3/2008 9:40:54 PM | message detail
....to kick your ass

Well, I suppose *squash* your ass would be more appropriate

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50/64 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII
NP: Tidus > Donkey Kong
Biolizard28 | Posted 10/3/2008 9:42:37 PM | message detail
Death of the contest 100% confirmed.
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Gaddswell | Posted 10/3/2008 10:24:36 PM | message detail
I totally forgot about Big Rigs!
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hellfire104 | Posted 10/3/2008 10:26:02 PM | message detail
I heard someone on another thread mention that its not even Tidus in the picture and that its actually Shuyin.
Hard to tell the difference between the two, but can anybody confirm either way?
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Contest Point Total: 50 Rank: 98%tile, Tied for 890
This Pick: Tidus > Donkey Kong
LordOfDabu | Posted 10/3/2008 10:26:36 PM | message detail
It's Tidus.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/3/2008 10:26:52 PM | message detail
It's Tidus' Dissidia artwork. It's definitely him.
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BDawg | Posted 10/3/2008 10:28:12 PM | message detail
This is late but wow Ike is really king of the pointless comeback. I never thought he'd get it that close to 1k.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 10:29:11 PM | message detail
Stupid Brawl.
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vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:29:32 PM | message detail
As happy as I am to see Tidus and his newfound "strength", this just pisses me off to no end at all. So now the final is going to be something like Link/L-Block/WCC/Sandbag right? Did I miss any other inanimate object that can eliminate Link along the way?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 10:31:21 PM | message detail
There's no way two joke entrants will make it from the bottom half. If one gets in (either Cube or Sandbag), that makes Link the favorite and also makes Link > Cloud a pretty likely result.
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BDawg | Posted 10/3/2008 10:33:00 PM | message detail
I don't particularly get these jokes anyway but Sandbag has to be the stupidest of all.
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vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:34:20 PM | message detail
I'm not going to underestimate these jokes or the people who continuously vote for them. I will not be surprised if Sandbag breaks 40%.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/3/2008 10:35:48 PM | message detail
Tidus makes an EPIC 1 VOTE CUT!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/3/2008 10:36:20 PM | message detail
First cut by Tidus.
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LordLockeRA | Posted 10/3/2008 10:36:46 PM | message detail
DK better loosen that tie...
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Xuxon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:41:24 PM | message detail
Cloud
Weighted Companion Cube
Sephiroth
Sandbag

Can Cloud and Seph both advance due to joke LFF? Or do neither advance? Or does one of the jokes advance with Cloud, and in which order?
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vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:42:26 PM | message detail
Jokes advance.


Or joke takes first, Cloud scrapes by at second.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 10:42:45 PM | message detail
Cloud > Sandbag there.

If Snake is there in place of WCC, I think Sandbag > Cloud is very likely.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/3/2008 10:46:44 PM | message detail
Howcome joke SFF is pretty much accepted now, whereas the Dog SFFing L-Block was considered laughable by most people?

Did I miss something in those six pages of topic I missed?
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 10:47:01 PM | message detail
Gotta love people complaining about Things like L-Block and Cube potentially winning the whole thing, yet still want Eunich Elf and Idiot with an Airplane Wing to win it again.
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Yesmar | Posted 10/3/2008 10:47:55 PM | message detail
Gotta love people complaining about Things like L-Block and Cube potentially winning the whole thing, yet still want Eunich Elf and Idiot with an Airplane Wing to win it again.

Yes, because Link and Cloud are the same thing as an inanimate object.
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Master Moltar | Posted 10/3/2008 10:48:35 PM | message detail
a joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners

it makes sense imo
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 10:49:22 PM | message detail
Dunno about anyone else, but Joke SFF just made common sense to me. I mean, where else would The Dog be getting his support if not from joke vo

Wait a minute, Eunuch?!
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 10:49:29 PM | message detail
Link pretty much is.

Cloud Might as well be.
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paraboxx | Posted 10/3/2008 10:50:26 PM | message detail
Gotta love people complaining about Things like L-Block and Cube potentially winning the whole thing, yet still want Eunich Elf and Idiot with an Airplane Wing to win it again.

I wish more people who said stuff like this would realize Cloud's only won one contest.

I'm fine with the jokes (especially the WCC!), but I'd take Cloud winning again over them in a heartbeat.
vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:50:51 PM | message detail
Wow, get lost.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 10:51:40 PM | message detail
Cloud pretty much comes in 2nd almost every year since the winnings.
With Link of course winning.
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vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:53:11 PM | message detail
Like Cloud or not, like FF or not, but to compare Cloud to a mere object just shows you are being a troll (I expected better, but whatever).
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 10:58:08 PM | message detail
I found more affection and use for those mere objects than I did for SOLDIER boy.

L-Block has saved my ass so freaking times in Tetris Im indebt to him(Stupidass 4-long block never coming). Dunno why T-Block isnt here also.., and Portal made me freaking love that Cube, I even felt bad at the end of what happens to it(and its just an inanimate object as you said).

I lost count how many times I facepalmed at Cloud's actions that I wanted to kick him at the end several times.


So yes, Id like to see some change here than just Link and Cloud Killing everything almost every year.
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vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 10:59:48 PM | message detail
You got your change lost year.


Talk to me in 5 years (if the contest isn't retired) when half the bracket are objects from various games and no real character ever wins again. This is no better than Link/Cloud domination. In fact, it's worse.
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Blackapino1984 | Posted 10/3/2008 11:03:22 PM | message detail
Can we get in Snake's Box into the contest next year since this is the new thing now? Or even better yet an in game item contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/3/2008 11:04:58 PM | message detail

Master Moltar | Posted 10/4/2008 1:48:35 AM (#024)
a joke format for a joke contest deserves joke winners

it makes sense imo



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Gaddswell | Posted 10/3/2008 11:06:46 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd rather have Cardboard Box than Surveillance Camera as the MGS inanimate object.
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/3/2008 11:09:14 PM | message detail
If you're nominating an object from MGS, I think it should be THIS ARM which Liquid "lives on through"

A poll option labeled "THIS ARM" would actually be pretty funny, unlike some of these jokes ;>_>
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/3/2008 11:10:28 PM | message detail
Tifa's boobs for 2009
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 11:10:36 PM | message detail
Yes, clearly theyre as dominant. I mean beating RYE-YOO and Tidus in a 4 way poll is certainly dominant


Weve only had jokes win like this for 1 bloody year, and even then it was on sheer momentum. The rest of the time, it was either FF7 or Nintendo Dominance, with Snake being the only force of nature to change something. Snake only did something because of he's pretty much what started BRAWLFEAR.

Now quit being butthurt over an internet contest.
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vcharon | Posted 10/3/2008 11:11:42 PM | message detail
L-Block has won as many times as Cloud, your highness.
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__hiei__ | Posted 10/3/2008 11:13:43 PM | message detail
how can Joke characters winning be funny anymore?

they now have a legit reason to win. it just CAN'T be funny anymore. someone like Kaim Argonair or Jade Curtiss winning the contest would be funny since those have no reason to win at all.
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 10/3/2008 11:14:37 PM | message detail
someone like Kaim Argonair or Jade Curtiss winning the contest would be funny since those have no reason to win at all.

Woah woah woah... Jade and Kaim getting votes is not something to laugh about.

It's something to weep for.
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Xuxon | Posted 10/3/2008 11:15:27 PM | message detail
oh man, jade winning would be way funnier than L-block ever was.
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Team Rocket Elite | Posted 10/3/2008 11:17:58 PM | message detail
19 people fell off the Top 50 today. Enyc, GhostNinjaDuck, SSpectre, CubsFan2126, ShikamaruXXX, neo_xjericho, gitanil, caneskid14, _Viggs_, miniver, ciscowaco9, Cyrus_85, Shin_Servbot, Evvivan, 1nsaneMidget, TCA87, hangid, Doctor_Clarinet and hochimnih157 did not have Pikachu > Arthas.

18 people scored half points and survived. Shadow_L, Denzokuken, skirtlesswonder, Billy_Gates, ZeroCleric, WhatTheDarn, GanonLegend27, TheTRobbReport, onelegbob, azndragon555, zackwolf22, Admiralnobody88, espio4000, funkyg50, GrungeLink, Lukejalil, EvilNinjaDuck and kangle5411 also did not have Pikachu > Arthas.

1 person scored a single point but still survived. Former first place Deathstroke76 had something vaguely similar to Pikachu > Arthas.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 11:31:06 PM | message detail
Out of curiosity peon, why you care so much on what happens on a internet poll? I only prefer seeing inanimate objects win it since im rather tired of seeing Link and anything FF7 related dominate year after year(and I dont see you complaining about Link, when he really has no character).



now Kaim and Jade winning would be pretty goddamned hilarious.
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transience | Posted 10/3/2008 11:31:53 PM | message detail
angry Tidus fanboys up in here

here's Tidus's best time, or what should be his best time. looks like he might stall out the night, or maybe start to come back. he's not completely dead yet, but it doesn't look good.
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eaglesarebeasts | Posted 10/3/2008 11:33:06 PM | message detail
Damn this contest was so awesome and is now going to get ****** up by a bunch of joke characters. Really funny guys lets vote for inanimate objects!
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Seginustemple | Posted 10/3/2008 11:36:22 PM | message detail
What really pisses me off about this whole joke character business is that if people simply don't want Link to win again, they choose an alternative that's just as stupid as Link. The first year it's an exciting joke. The second year it's not funny or exciting. Why can't someone cool like Snake or Samus win? Does Solid Snake even have haters? One chance for the guy to win a contest and here we can see the lulz are going to screw that up for him.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 11:38:51 PM | message detail
Snake Got his chance.

He's pretty much the main reason why we have 4 ways to begin with now <_<
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paraboxx | Posted 10/3/2008 11:39:05 PM | message detail
You sound like you think everyone voting for Block/WCC is planning it, and laughing about it to each other.

That's not the case. Voting for laughs is universal. Voting for Snake is not.
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