GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 585
| UltimaterializerX | Posted 10/3/2008 10:20:28 AM | message detail |
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I'll make sure you suffer. Speak, fool! Your pain shall be legendary! *Shrugs it off cause at least I made the leaderboard for a day* ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://thengamer.com/gamefaqs/ http://thengamer.com/xstats http://thengamer.com/stats ~*Ulti and MMX's Contest Site (some offensive language)*~ http://freewebs.com/mmxcalibur/ ~*TRE's poll listing (every poll!)*~ http://members.shaw.ca/teamrocketelite/Polls.html ~*aprosenf's poll script*~ http://web.mit.edu/adamrose/Public/allpolls.txt ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the match pics*~ http://sc2k5.com/gallery/index.php ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Some Common Stat Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote, because the Zelda fanbase so clearly sided with him. However, take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make total sense. This has caused a few SFF jokes, with LordOfDabu's "Some Frivolous Factor" being the funniest of them. X-Stats - Short form of Extrapolated Statistics, aka the mathematical "strength" of a contestant that can be determined based on their performance in any given matchup. See above for a detailed explanation of the x-stat process. rSFF (Reverse Same Fanbase Factor): An unproven theory that states that an SFF match will feature the expected weaker character receiving more benefit from SFF than the stronger character. For example, all evidence supports Samus being indirectly stronger than Mario, yet Mario blew Samus away during their 2005 match. That's rSFF in action, and the one case we have of the weaker statistical character winning with it. For other information, surf the contest sites a bit. They have everything. --- MY BROTHERS WILL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN! Now Playing: Final Fantasy 4 DS, Spore ~*ST*~ |
| darkx5642358951 | Posted 10/3/2008 10:23:04 AM | message detail |
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Second --- sopme day i well beat 1000 games no matter what it takes or games to play i beat them - ertyu. That's the spirit, buddy! |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2008 12:00:28 PM | message detail |
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okay, let's argue. who hurts Pikachu more, Ike or Falcon? and who's stronger, Ike or Falcon? --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 12:01:30 PM | message detail |
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Anyone who takes Falcon over Ike is what. --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| Mac Arrowny | Posted 10/3/2008 12:04:06 PM | message detail |
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Diddy > Ike > Falcon, obviously. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. |
| Xuxon | Posted 10/3/2008 12:09:17 PM | message detail |
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ike hurts pikachu more. they're both rpg characters. also, some of
falcon's popularity is from an internet meme, which would be less
associated with nintendo specifically. i don't see pikachu losing to
alucard next round anyway. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| transience | Posted 10/3/2008 12:20:53 PM | message detail |
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Falcon's also in Melee and 64 though. --- xyzzy "Man...tranny gets bored, the rest of us suffer." -satai |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/3/2008 12:21:48 PM | message detail |
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Falcon and Ike would probably be really close --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 12:23:41 PM | message detail |
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I'd say Ike > Falcon by about 55-45 in 1v1. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/3/2008 12:25:05 PM | message detail |
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as someone who has Arthas and voted Ike, the Ike supporters were far worse This can't be serious. I like how in big matchups, whatever side I generally support gets ****ed on. Awesome >_> --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| Merc25 | Posted 10/3/2008 12:26:41 PM | message detail |
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Who shall be accuse of cheating next match? I pick the noble WCC. --- If you read this signature, then you have wasted your time. (:H --- Capt. Bullet, my mascot. |playing: BOF3, SP:DM |
| hailEC | Posted 10/3/2008 12:26:42 PM | message detail |
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Ike hurts pikachu more, Falcon > Ike. imo --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| medicority | Posted 10/3/2008 12:29:21 PM | message detail |
| looking forward to today since arthas/diablo won't ruin my bracket this time |
| voltch | Posted 10/3/2008 12:30:26 PM | message detail |
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so why did we used to rally for Kerrigan instead of Arthas again. --- Del Boy:He who dares, wins! |
| Tai | Posted 10/3/2008 12:32:54 PM | message detail |
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Mommy what's an Arthis. : ( --- ~^*-.pUt tHiS iN yOuR sIg iF yOu wAnT tO eNd tHe fLaMeWaRs iN iRaQ.-*^~ SSB Brawl Code: 0903-4850-3529 |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 12:32:58 PM | message detail |
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I was tired of the bleeding, so I decided to start rallying again, and Arthas cut Ike. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| KamikazePotato | Posted 10/3/2008 12:33:48 PM | message detail |
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And you think we were worse than that, tranny? --- Bracket: http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=10 |
| HeroicTronBonne | Posted 10/3/2008 12:35:01 PM | message detail |
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*Facepalms* --- The Straight Up G WWEGSB Hardcore Legend and Board 8er Masa/Hiko |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/3/2008 12:40:30 PM | message detail |
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Frostmourne HUNGERS What we can gather from this match, is that Arthas is the decent-low midcarder we thought he was, Ike would probably win 1v1, and Pikachu is indeed a high-midcarder, around Fox's level. Now the question remains, Arthas or Alucard? I have Alucard going to round 3, but he looked like crap yesterday. --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy. -trancer1 |
| Merc25 | Posted 10/3/2008 12:48:07 PM | message detail |
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so why did we used to rally for Kerrigan instead of Arthas again. Zerg > Undead. --- If you read this signature, then you have wasted your time. (:H --- Capt. Bullet, my mascot. |playing: BOF3, SP:DM |
| Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 10/3/2008 1:09:15 PM | message detail |
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Chu > Arthas. Didnt doubt it. Of course the true winner is Spy. Since everyone in the contest is Spy. --- Warning, there is a bear right behind you. Ride Him. |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/3/2008 1:14:05 PM | message detail |
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All I know is that Albion and Turtle hyped Pika > Arthas as an
absolute fact of life, and got exactly what they wanted despite being
elitists of the highest order. Now everyone's going to call Ike fodder. This is just ****ing fantastic. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. Meg and Fiona are the scum of the field. |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 1:15:12 PM | message detail |
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He's not fodder. Hes High End Fodder. Still, the fact is you were wrong, you thought there was no LFF between Diablo and Arthas, so all you have to do is blame yourself. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 1:20:28 PM | message detail |
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So guys... when exactly is Ike gonna be running away with the ASV? Or
maybe Arthas is just as good with the ASV as Ike, since you all think
Ike is the main beneficiary of the ASV yet Arthas is stalling him good. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| hailEC | Posted 10/3/2008 1:23:06 PM | message detail |
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Did anyone actually ever claim that there was no LFF/SFF between Diablo and Arthas? If so they should be committed. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
| Biolizard28 | Posted 10/3/2008 1:30:28 PM | message detail |
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I thought it was highly exaggerate by some people, but I guess that's me. --- Biolizard28: The cream of Fire Emblem fanboyism. Meg and Fiona are the scum of the field. |
| ffmasterjose | Posted 10/3/2008 1:32:50 PM | message detail |
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Ike cut! >_> --- 46/60 points - The Great GameFAQs Character Battle VII NP: Pikachu > Arthas Menethil |
| GrapefruitKing | Posted 10/3/2008 1:33:58 PM | message detail |
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Nice epic comeback, Ike --- Today's prediction: Pikasuck 33.00% - Arthas 25.70% - Ike 25.40% - Spy 15.90% Status: Great |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/3/2008 1:39:00 PM | message detail |
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some day vote for Pikachu here. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 1:41:59 PM | message detail |
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I like how Pikachu has to struggle for that 32%. I like it a lot. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITS Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Zylo the wolf | Posted 10/3/2008 1:44:02 PM | message detail |
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All I know is that Albion and Turtle hyped Pika > Arthas as an
absolute fact of life, and got exactly what they wanted despite being
elitists of the highest order. Now everyone's going to call Ike fodder. This is just ****ing fantastic. I know I once told you that Ike was big fodder, but he's doing much better than I expected. Without Pikachu he could've won over Arthas, unless the Spy is holding Arthas back as well... --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. The 2008 Guru contest winner > Me |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 1:45:18 PM | message detail |
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I don't think theres any question Spy is SFFing a tiny bit with Arthas.
Not to the level of Ike/Pikachu, but they are both PC characters
afterall. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 1:46:10 PM | message detail |
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As to the question of who hurts Pikachu more, I'm siding with Falcon.
He's been a popular addition to all three Smash games, and if what we
saw yesterday was the real Captain Falcon, then he should
challenge with the Smash support more than I figure Ike can. Ike has
the advantage of being able to actually draw votes from his own series
(F in F-Zero stands for FAIL), but I have my doubts as to just how much
fanbase overlap exists between Pokemon and Fire Emblem. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITS Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/3/2008 1:47:18 PM | message detail |
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Now everyone's going to call Ike fodder. This is just ****ing fantastic. Did you read a single argument I posted? Ike is not fodder, he just didn't have a chance here because of Pikachu. Before today I said Arthas/Ike was debateable 1v1, but now I would comfortably take Ike heads up. Can you take your head out of your ass for once? |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/3/2008 1:47:50 PM | message detail |
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I'm angry that I switched to Pikachu > Alucard next round. -_-' What a stupid move. On another note, I'm glad as hell that I kept Squall > Yoshi through the first two rounds. I'm actually starting to feel like Fox could beat Yoshi after seeing Falco's performance and after watching what Captain Falcon did. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. |
| ExThaNemesis | Posted 10/3/2008 1:48:54 PM | message detail |
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And yeah Falcon definitely hurts Pikachu more than Ike. Even though I
think Pikachu draws more from Pokemon than Smash Bros, Falcon will rip
off a TON more of the Smash vote than Ike ever would. --- ExThaNemesis is the man. |
| BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 10/3/2008 1:48:56 PM | message detail |
| I have to say that Arthas disappointed me today. Then again, Alucard disappointed yesterday too. Next round will be all about who sucks less, and I'm willing to say it's a tossup between Arthas and Alucard. |
| Xuxon | Posted 10/3/2008 1:52:01 PM | message detail |
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I'm angry that I switched to Pikachu > Alucard next round. -_-' What a stupid move. what do you think happens now? pika > arthas? alucard > pika? honestly, i'm feeling better than ever about pika > alucard next round. --- DQVIII LLG - level 1/6/10/19, before Captain Crow Brawl FC: 0344-9611-6716 |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2008 1:55:31 PM | message detail |
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Yo made me wonder all of a sudden what the F in F-Zero stands for...grrrr. Abaout Yoshi/Fox: Fox will do well, but he's not beating Yoshi. Yoshi did better against Link in 2k4 than Fox in 2k3, Yoshi's stronger than Fox, and Yoshi's shown that he's not easily SFF'd through the Mario-polls; only Link and Mega Man have been able to, both of which are elites. Furthermore, Mega Man wasn't able to SFF Yoshi much in this format last year, so I imagine this formats protects Yoshi from SFF more. Fox will take Yoshi's SSB-support, but that's not going to amount to much in this battle since Yoshi has his number on the rest of the x-factors. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| PartOfYourWorld | Posted 10/3/2008 1:56:05 PM | message detail |
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Yeah, I'd still consider Pikachu the favorite. He won't finish too
far behind Alucard's percentage yesterday, and he's doing it despite
stronger opponents and a fanbase split. Alucard's best hope now is for
Falcon to pick Pikachu clean of Smash support. --- Yoblazer: NO LIMITS Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
| Karma Hunter | Posted 10/3/2008 1:56:31 PM | message detail |
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I really like Pika > Arthas, especially considering the round theme
should be face shots (challenging Pikachu for pic factor what what). --- turnturnturn your brain in turnturnturn your brain in |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/3/2008 2:02:04 PM | message detail |
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Pika > Arthas, Pika > Alucard, Alucard > Arthas... tough to say there. those three should finish in some order. the idea of Alucard skating to first place thanks to Ike/Pikachu/DIDDY is no longer true of course. I could see that being a 28/28/28/16 poll or something. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 2:02:13 PM | message detail |
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Guys, theres one thing you are all forgetting as well. Blizzard Characters (the ones who have strength) adjust their strength to the competition because of rallying. Liek no one is really bothering to rally for Arthas anymore today, since hes got it in the bag. But imagine all day rallying on all Blizzard sites and programs, in a close match against a stronger character. It happened with Starcraft and Diablo, and it'll happen with Arthas next round. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| HaRRicH | Posted 10/3/2008 2:34:52 PM | message detail |
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Probably true, considering Starcraft against Halo/LoZ:WW/SSBM as
opposed to being against KH. Still, I wonder how many of Arthas's votes
today were rallied and how many more he could get if necessary. CF
shouldn't hurt Pikachu (much) more than Ike is, Arthas has already
rallied a lot of votes against Ike today, and Arthas is currently down
on Pikachu by ~4,500 votes...so, theoretically, Arthas needs to get
another ~3.5% on Pikachu next round from rallying than he already is.
That's dangerous territory to go into. --- NRT winners: Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country 2 Remember these games! |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 2:37:09 PM | message detail |
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I didn't see any rallying on Battlenet today, and very little rallying
on WoW forums. There was some, but not at Starcraft rallying levels. If
we get to Starcraft rallying levels, Arthas will be a beast. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| trannyscience | Posted 10/3/2008 2:41:56 PM | message detail |
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500 votes so far.. not bad. --- xyzzy http://users.tpg.com.au/112358//85454546braidav.gif |
| CP724 | Posted 10/3/2008 2:41:59 PM | message detail |
| 50 vote cut by Ike. |
| __Smurf__ | Posted 10/3/2008 2:42:57 PM | message detail |
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not bad but not enough. --- Smurf. The cream of Sonic Fanboyism you're like some devious internet fiend- Majin |
| _Hogger_ | Posted 10/3/2008 2:43:04 PM | message detail |
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Ike needs ALOT of those 50 vote cuts if he wants a chance at a
comeback. He has a good 4 and a half hours I'd say before Arthas starts
gaining again. If It gets too close, I'll just go rally though. Lol Ike. --- Vote for Arthas Menethil in the Character Contest! http://card.mygamercard.net/geothermal/Albion+Hero.png |
| hailEC | Posted 10/3/2008 2:43:30 PM | message detail |
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On another note, I'm glad as hell that I kept Squall > Yoshi through the first two rounds. I'm actually starting to feel like Fox could beat Yoshi after seeing Falco's performance and after watching what Captain Falcon did. People are really starting to get carried away with Fox. Yoshi beat Dante. Dante got 46% on Vincent. Do you really think Fox gets 46% on Vincent? You know the guy who can beat Crono now? Fox for noble-nine breaker IMO. --- all hail ec your lord and savior |
